Obama approval rises to 54%

He suddenly looks really good compared to our current options.

Why don't we just pass a constitutional amendment extending his term four years? Let's just not have this election. The American people have failed.
 
President's always get more credit/blame than they should for the economy.

It doesn't change the fact that this has been an historically bad recovery. And he deserves blame for passing legislation (Dodd-Frank) that has played a major role in handcuffing the private sector.

We all have personal qualities we like in leaders but looking at his record he will not have a high ranking in history.

Do you support any regulation of the financial industry at all?
 
"Not done very well"

Obama:

Saved the country from W's recession.

Brought both unemployment numbers and the stock market back to pre-crash levels.

Kept gas prices reasonable for Mr and Mrs America.

Enacted healthcare legislation enabling MILLIONS of uninsured to get treatment they needed.

ROFL!!

What the basis for your gas prices comment? Sh*t spent years near the $4 mark. What do you consider reasonable?
 
The profitability gap between small banks & large banks has narrowed. The assertion that Dodd-Frank has only hurt small banks is disputable. There have been some negative effects, but there is definitely debate about the overall impact.


Now this is from the opinion section of the Journal so take that for what it's worth but I think it gives a strong backing of the problems with Dodd-Frank.



Dodd-Frank in Retreat

Regulators admit the law hasn’t worked while judges question abuses.


It’s been a rough few weeks for President Obama’s signature reform of American finance. Across Washington deep cracks are appearing in the foundations of the Dodd-Frank law Mr. Obama enacted in 2010.

A federal judge has knocked down a major decision from Mr. Obama’s Financial Stability Oversight Council. Also, a federal appeals court panel is questioning the constitutionality of Mr. Obama’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. On Wednesday regulators officially declared that most of the nation’s banking giants are still too big and too complicated to fail.

Dodd-Frank’s failure on its own terms virtually guarantees that someone will reform it. The question is whether it will be the judicial or legislative branch. Republicans have been criticizing Dodd-Frank since it was on the drafting table. More significant is that both Democratic presidential candidates are now also talking reform. Obviously a Bernie Sanders rewrite of financial rules would look very different from a Ted Cruz version. But outside of the White House, the status quo has almost no constituency. And with Barack Obama due to vacate the premises in just nine months, Dodd-Frank’s flaws are becoming impossible to ignore.

Two weeks ago U.S. District Judge Rosemary Collyer rescinded the government’s designation of insurer MetLife as a “systemically important financial institution.” It was the first time such a designation had been challenged in court. Indeed in its first title defense, the stability council created by Dodd-Frank lost by a knockout. Judge Collyer called the council’s decision “unreasonable” and the result of a “fatally flawed” process.


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This week in the same D.C. Circuit, an appeals court panel is questioning whether another Dodd-Frank creation should even exist. Government attorneys may have figured they would have to explain only why the new Consumer Financial Protection Bureau is ignoring the parts of federal housing law it doesn’t like and overturning long-standing interpretations of others.



But earlier this month the appeals court warned them to be ready to respond to larger questions about the new agency. The consumer bureau is an odd creation. Unlike most independent agencies, it isn’t run by a bipartisan board but by a single director. It also doesn’t have to pay attention to Congress because it doesn’t require annual appropriations from legislators. The bureau simply draws its budget from the Federal Reserve, which can’t turn off the funding spigot even if it wants to.

This week’s case neatly captured the unaccountable nature of this bizarre Beltway creature. The consumer bureau has been demanding that, for its alleged sins, New Jersey mortgage lender PHH should pay 18 times the amount ordered by the bureau’s own in-house administrative law judge. And why not, since the bureau reports to no one?

At Tuesday’s hearing, Judge Brett Kavanaugh made it clear that the bureau’s “very unusual structure” has him concerned about more than just a novel way of interpreting lending laws. “You are concentrating huge power in a single person and the President has no power over it,” Judge Kavanaugh said.

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That same day word began to leak out of Washington of still another failure in the architecture of Dodd-Frank. On Wednesday morning the Fed and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation confirmed the results of their study of “orderly resolution” plans at America’s biggest banks. Known as “living wills,” they are supposed to show in detail how these banking titans, in the event of failure, could be placed into bankruptcy without wrecking the financial system.

The Fed and the FDIC agreed that the plans submitted by five of the eight banking giants reviewed were “not credible.” Bank of America, Bank of New York Mellon, J.P. Morgan Chase, State Street and Wells Fargo received these failing grades. The plans from Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley were deemed “not credible” by one of the two agencies. And even though Citigroup was the one kid in the class who managed to pass both the Fed and FDIC tests, regulators found “shortcomings” there too.

Much of the press may play these results as another outrage committed by giant banks, but this is fundamentally a failure of Dodd-Frank to keep its central promise. Six years after the law was passed, and eight years since the financial crisis, regulators given broad authority to remake American finance, with thousands of regulatory officials on their payroll, cannot figure out a system to allow financial giants to fail, even in theory. What are we paying these people for?

As the search continues for people outside 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue who believe that Dodd-Frank is reforming the U.S. financial system, judges are beginning to question the law’s most basic premises. Just possibly, taxpayers can contemplate a better future.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/dodd-frank-in-retreat-1460588528
 
Maybe that's what we're seeing in this thread. People who know he didn't perform particularly well but say he did because he's black.

I doubt it, because the people here (generally) know better than that. He has performed, in my opinion, incredibly well in very difficult circumstances. When he took office the economy was in the second worse place it has ever been and we were deeply involved in two incredibly costly wars. Costly in lives, morality, and money. The insured rate was dropping drastically and medical inflation was incredibly high.

While Obama has not been perfect, those things mentioned above are MUCH better than they were.
 
wacko hates this country

This country was built on discourse, and on the marketplace of ideas. Opposing viewpoints should be welcomed & embraced - it is the only way we arrive at the best ideas to improve things.

You shut that down. You don't allow for any dissent or disagreement. It's sad, and hardly what I would call loving your country.
 
This country was built on discourse, and on the marketplace of ideas. Opposing viewpoints should be welcomed & embraced - it is the only way we arrive at the best ideas to improve things.

You shut that down. You don't allow for any dissent or disagreement. It's sad, and hardly what I would call loving your country.

This is totally random, ancedotal and stupid but I've read a half dozen Faceboon friends recently post they are deleting friends whose political opinions they disagree with.

First off it's Facebook and people can do what the hell they want with their own page and who they want to be friends with. But to me it also speaks at a deeper level to this point we many of us really do put ourselves in echo chambers by where we live, who we associate with and what we watch/listen to
 
This is totally random, ancedotal and stupid but I've read a half dozen Faceboon friends recently post they are deleting friends whose political opinions they disagree with.

First off it's Facebook and people can do what the hell they want with their own page and who they want to be friends with. But to me it also speaks at a deeper level to this point we many of us really do put ourselves in echo chambers by where we live, who we associate with and what we watch/listen to

It's consistent with what we've seen in other areas where civil discourse used to be the norm.

The parties are getting more extreme, and that probably leads the way. Whoever is President, the opposition party has basically chosen to oppose them at every juncture, instead of working toward solutions w/ them. That trickles down. And both parties do that (desh).
 
This country was built on discourse, and on the marketplace of ideas. Opposing viewpoints should be welcomed & embraced - it is the only way we arrive at the best ideas to improve things.

You shut that down. You don't allow for any dissent or disagreement. It's sad, and hardly what I would call loving your country.

This is hilarious coming from you. Because I challenge your assertions you can't be bothered to respond to me and said you were going to ban me from your threads. In fact, you also vilified me and cursed me for responding to you on a public messageboard.

You have no self awareness, none.
 
This is hilarious coming from you. Because I challenge your assertions you can't be bothered to respond to me and said you were going to ban me from your threads. In fact, you also vilified me and cursed me for responding to you on a public messageboard.

You have no self awareness, none.

This is the type of sneering, derisive response Thing was just talking about.

You just don't have it in you to make your point in a civil manner, oh no.
 
This is the type of sneering, derisive response Thing was just talking about.

You just don't have it in you to make your point in a civil manner, oh no.

Like this?

Like I said - fuck off. You've always done this - like people fear your braindead partisan bullshit.

Fuck the fuck off.

Or like these "civil" posts?

Oh my GOD I can't take it anymore would you please just this one time SHUT THE FUCK UP?!?

Why are you incapable of discussing ANYTHING with ANYONE?

Yep, same dim bulb "response" I get from most JPP Righties whenever I ask for corroboration.

Once again we discover, with Seasick, it's not about the truth, it's about being a douchebag.

Like Thing, you have no self awareness.
 
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