Aleppo "humanitarian corridor"

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Dozens of families have left besieged eastern areas of the city of Aleppo along a humanitarian corridor, Syrian state media says.

The civilians boarded buses and were taken to temporary shelters, state news agency Sana said.

Some rebels had also surrendered to government forces, the report said.

Russia, an ally of the Syrian government, announced on Thursday that four exit corridors would be opened in Aleppo for civilians and rebels.

The move was welcomed cautiously by the UN, the US and some aid agencies.

The US has suggested the plan may be an attempt to force the evacuation of civilians and the surrender of rebel groups in the city.

On Friday, the United Nations envoy to Syria said the corridors should be administered by the UN and that there should be a 48-hour ceasefire for people to leave safely.

About 300,000 people are trapped in rebel-held eastern Aleppo and the UN says food supplies are expected to run out in mid-August.

"This morning dozens of families left via the corridors identified... to allow the exit of citizens besieged by terrorist groups in the eastern neighbourhoods," Sana reported.

It showed pictures of people, mostly women and children, walking past soldiers and getting onto buses. It said they were taken to temporary shelters but gave no details.

The report also said some fighters had handed over their weapons and surrendered to the authorities.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad has offered an amnesty for rebels laying down arms and surrendering within three months.

UK-based monitoring group the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights also said that "a number" of civilians had left eastern Aleppo through a passage in the Salaheddin neighbourhood.

Russia said there would be three exit corridors for civilians and unarmed fighters and a fourth one, in the direction of Castello Road, for armed militants.
The Syrian opposition, however, says the corridors are a government ploy to recapture all of Aleppo.

"These corridors are not for getting aid in, but driving people out," said Basma Kodmani of the opposition High Negotiations Committee.

"The brutal message to our people is: leave or starve."

UN envoy Staffan de Mistura said on Friday that the UN supported the humanitarian corridors in principle but it wanted Russia to provide more details on how they would work.
US Secretary of State John Kerry said that if the operation was "a ruse" it could disrupt US-Russian co-operation in Syria.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-36932694
 
HRClinton still supports US enforced "No Fly zones" for humanitarian areas.

Which means going against Assad 's and the Russian AF at minimum - possibly devolving into Libya type bombing war
or even interventionism.
It's difficult enough to open a corridor ( not protect a zone) even with Assad's and Russian approval
 
HRClinton still supports US enforced "No Fly zones" for humanitarian areas.

Which means going against Assad 's and the Russian AF at minimum - possibly devolving into Libya type bombing war
or even interventionism.
It's difficult enough to open a corridor ( not protect a zone) even with Assad's and Russian approval

More whole cloth lies
God but you are tiresome.
 
More whole cloth lies God but you are tiresome.



Hillary Clinton's Insane Plan for a No-fly Zone | Al Jazeera America
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/hillary-clintons-insane-plan-for-a-no-fly-zone.html
Dec 29, 2015 - After Clinton said she supported a no-fly zone in Syria in the context of ... if one wants to name things without calling up mental pictures of them.


Hillary Clinton calls for no-fly zone in Syria | MSNBC
www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-calls-no-fly-zones-syria
Oct 1, 2015 - In an apparent break with the Obama White House, Hillary Clinton called for a no-fly zone in Syria the day after Russia starting bombing targets ...


Hillary Clinton calls for more ground troops as part of hawkish Isis ...
www.theguardian.com › US News › Hillary Clinton
The Guardian
Nov 19, 2015 - Democrat wants to 'intensify and broaden' Obama's policy with greater ... She was also specific about a no-fly zone for northern Syria to cut off ...


Clinton Strikes Hawkish Tone with Support for No-Fly Zone in Syria ...
www.military.com/.../clinton-strikes-hawkish-tone-with-support-for-no-f...
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Rune is reduced to babbling -never bothering to check sources, or cogitate before eruption
 
Hillary Clinton's Insane Plan for a No-fly Zone | Al Jazeera America
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2015/12/hillary-clintons-insane-plan-for-a-no-fly-zone.html
Dec 29, 2015 - After Clinton said she supported a no-fly zone in Syria in the context of ... if one wants to name things without calling up mental pictures of them.


Hillary Clinton calls for no-fly zone in Syria | MSNBC
www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-calls-no-fly-zones-syria
Oct 1, 2015 - In an apparent break with the Obama White House, Hillary Clinton called for a no-fly zone in Syria the day after Russia starting bombing targets ...


Hillary Clinton calls for more ground troops as part of hawkish Isis ...
www.theguardian.com › US News › Hillary Clinton
The Guardian
Nov 19, 2015 - Democrat wants to 'intensify and broaden' Obama's policy with greater ... She was also specific about a no-fly zone for northern Syria to cut off ...


Clinton Strikes Hawkish Tone with Support for No-Fly Zone in Syria ...
www.military.com/.../clinton-strikes-hawkish-tone-with-support-for-no-f...
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Rune is reduced to babbling -never bothering to check sources, or cogitate before eruption

Anatta tries to pretend that Hillary's year plus old comments are relative to today's context.

:legion:
 
Anatta tries to pretend that Hillary's year plus old comments are relative to today's context.
How Hillary Clinton's plans break from Obama's policies on Syria, trade and other issues

http://www.latimes.com/politics/ Saturday July 30, 2016
Military intervention in Syria

Clinton has staked out more hawkish positions than Obama, dating back to her vote for the war in Iraq when she was a New York senator. She kept that reputation when she was secretary of State, becoming one of the leading voices in the administration pushing for military intervention in Libya.

She has also sought a more active role for the U.S. military in the Syrian civil war, the bloody, 5-year-old conflict that has empowered Islamic State militants while pitting rebels against government forces. Clinton and other Obama advisors wanted to train and arm some opposition groups, but Obama declined, though he relented after she left his Cabinet, with the CIA delivering weapons to some groups starting in 2013.

In addition, she has pushed for a no-fly zone to protect civilians fleeing the conflict, and she’s suggested putting U.S. forces on the ground to fight Islamic State, though she cautions that she would not seek a full-scale combat mission.


On the campaign trail, Clinton has called for establishing a no-fly zone in Syria, which would likely entail U.S. military aircraft patrolling the skies and possibly taking out Syrian and Russian aircraft.
 
How Hillary Clinton's plans break from Obama's policies on Syria, trade and other issues

http://www.latimes.com/politics/ Saturday July 30, 2016
Military intervention in Syria

Clinton has staked out more hawkish positions than Obama, dating back to her vote for the war in Iraq when she was a New York senator. She kept that reputation when she was secretary of State, becoming one of the leading voices in the administration pushing for military intervention in Libya.

She has also sought a more active role for the U.S. military in the Syrian civil war, the bloody, 5-year-old conflict that has empowered Islamic State militants while pitting rebels against government forces. Clinton and other Obama advisors wanted to train and arm some opposition groups, but Obama declined, though he relented after she left his Cabinet, with the CIA delivering weapons to some groups starting in 2013.

In addition, she has pushed for a no-fly zone to protect civilians fleeing the conflict, and she’s suggested putting U.S. forces on the ground to fight Islamic State, though she cautions that she would not seek a full-scale combat mission.


On the campaign trail, Clinton has called for establishing a no-fly zone in Syria, which would likely entail U.S. military aircraft patrolling the skies and possibly taking out Syrian and Russian aircraft.

LMFAO
Your article cites even earlier stances you fucking twat.

Fucking freak furthermore Hillary did not vote for the Iraq War you lying asshole.
 
LMFAO
Your article cites even earlier stances you fucking twat.

Fucking freak furthermore Hillary did not vote for the Iraq War you lying asshole.
eediot.
what has changed on her stance regarding Syria? She's still hawking no fly's and safe zones.

If anything it's gotten to be where she's calling for "limited boots" = "smart power" = interventionism on the cheap.
Stick a couple thousand troops in there tied down to a No Fly zone and see what happens; they become sitting ducks.

Put the advisors and trainers we have now, and they are mobile and tied to combat units.
Why amI even going over this with you is my craziness -you are utterly unable to understand tactics -
completely clueless on Hillary's innate interventionism -although by now even you should be able to see her for what she is.
 
eediot.
what has changed on her stance regarding Syria? She's still hawking no fly's and safe zones.

If anything it's gotten to be where she's calling for "limited boots" = "smart power" = interventionism on the cheap.
Stick a couple thousand troops in there tied down to a No Fly zone and see what happens; they become sitting ducks.

Put the advisors and trainers we have now, and they are mobile and tied to combat units.
Why amI even going over this with you is my craziness -you are utterly unable to understand tactics -
completely clueless on Hillary's innate interventionism -although by now even you should be able to see her for what she is.

Simple.
You are trying to justify your lies.
FYI; you are failing.
 
LMFAO
Your article cites even earlier stances you fucking twat.

Fucking freak furthermore Hillary did not vote for the Iraq War you lying asshole.


http://www.latimes.com/politics/ Saturday July 30, 2016
Military intervention in Syria


How absolutely funny.....todays news is too old for the boob....

That officially makes you even more stupid than desh.....something I'd never thought would be possible......

Poor Rune
 
Bravo you ignorant slut, the article is from today but not the content.
Poor Blabo
the content and the article are from today.
There is some ongoing discussion of exactly how they want to do a no-fly -also about US/Russian?Syrian peace talks ( if it ever happens)
but that is her position as of today.
Wouldn't they say differently if it were different? Clinton has been a consistent Hawk on on Syria
 
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Vladimir Putin’s Defense Minister has announced that Syrian forces loyal President Bashar al-Assad will let civilians leave through three corridors, and rebels through another, to escape besieged districts of Aleppo. We have seen this movie before.


It is the same tactic Russian used when its air and ground forces were besieging Grozny, capital of the breakaway province of Chechnya back in 1999 and early 2000, while trying to flush out Islamic rebels from the city. This permitted Moscow to declare Grozny a free-fire zone, all the better to batter the already ruined city and deal less with the messy business of killing civilians and fighting door-to-door with insurgents.


From videos of Aleppo, large parts of the city are in ruins. About 300,000 civilians still reside in the eastern sector. The rebels are mostly grouped under an Islamic alliance known as the Ahrar al-Sham. The corridor suggests that the final assault, with Russian jet bombers backing Syrian troops, and pro-Assad Lebanese and Iranian forces, is on the way. Please note that the invitation to leave does not mean the bombing and artillery fire stops in the meantime. One day when I was in Grozny back in 1999, Russian artillery pounded the city at a rate of a shell every three seconds. Some reports say the Syria insurgents are prohibiting a civilian exodus from Aleppo.



Assad’s re-conquest of all of Aleppo—the government has long controlled western areas of the city—would boost his chances of staying in power. Aleppo is the north’s commercial hub and Syria’s largest city. It once had a population of 2.3 million, though hundreds of thousands have fled. It has already been badly battered by Assad and Putin’s air force and now faces a siege that could totally cut off food supplies to rebel held areas-a frequently-used Assad starvation tactic.


All this going on while Secretary of State John Kerry tries fruitlessly to get Russia to stop bombing and help put a ceasefire in place.
Aleppo’s return to Assad will represent a defeat no only for US-sponsored (so-called) moderate forces as well as Saudi Arabia and Turkey, both of which backed Islamist rebels in an effort to oust Assad.


Conversely, Putin and Iran stand to be big winners as the saviors of the Assad regime. Russia’s burst into a player in the Middle Eastern will be affirmed and Iran’s presence as a force within the region’s Sunni-Muslim heartland and Tehran’s strategic corridor to Hezbollah, the Lebanese militia, safeguarded.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-williams2/putin-assad-do-a-chechnya_b_11283940.html
 
Clinton to ‘Reset’ Syria War, Focus on Ousting Assad

According to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy adviser, she would order a “full reeview” of the Syrian war as her first task upon taking office, with an eye toward a “reset” of the conflict to shift focus toward attacking the Assad government and imposing regime change.

Clinton’s aide, former Pentagon chief of staff Jeremy Bash, insisted that Assad’s was a “murderous regime” and that US foreign policy would be to escalate both the war against ISIS and this new war against Assad to get both “out of there” at the same time.

Syria has been the subject of a lot of debate in the Obama Administration, with the Pentagon seeking a focus on ISIS, the CIA wanting to shift entirely to fighting Assad, and Secretary of State John Kerry negotiating a deal with Russia to expand the war to include al-Qaeda’s Nusra Front.

Though Bash didn’t cover where the Nusra Front would fit into this, the suggestion that Clinton’s administration would escalate attacks on both seems designed to split the difference and placate hawks on both sides of the issue. The Obama Administration has already been steadily escalating the war since it began, to little effect, and Clinton’s policy would be that, just moreso.
http://news.antiwar.com/2016/07/29/clinton-to-reset-syria-war-focus-on-ousting-assad/
 
Syria as the new Russian Afghanistan?

A Russian military transport helicopter was shot down on Monday in the Syrian province of Idlib, killing the three crew members and two officers on board in the deadliest episode for the Russian military since it intervened in the country, Russian officials said.


Video, which was released by antigovernment activists and purported to show the downing of the Mi-8 helicopter, suggested that it had been shot by ground fire as it returned to the Khmeimim Air Base from a humanitarian mission to the embattled city of Aleppo.


The video, which was posted on Facebook shortly before the Russian Defense Ministry confirmed the attack, showed two burned bodies on the sand about 300 feet away from what appeared to be a helicopter in flames.


In the video, a number of men, some of them armed, cheered around the bodies, shouting “Allahu akbar.” One of them jumped on a body, joyfully.

Dmitri S. Peskov, a spokesman for the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin, confirmed that all those on board were killed, according to the news agency Tass, and he expressed condolences to victims’ families.


The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which opposes the Syrian government and tracks the conflict from Britain through contacts in Syria, said the helicopter crashed near the village of Saraqib in Idlib Province.


The aircraft had recently delivered aid to two Shiite villages nearby that have long been surrounded by Sunni rebels, the Observatory said.


None of Syria’s many rebel groups immediately claimed responsibility for shooting down the helicopter.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/w...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


* yet another reason not to establish "noflys' in Syria*
 
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