So, what's the fallout from Maybe Putin Gate?

looking at things thru partisan lenses is always an exercise in self-delusion

Yep.... But honestly, I think it is more than that..

It often takes willing ignorance, & perhaps the ability to hold conflicting, MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ideas simultaneously & NOT SEE A CONFLICT!! :dunno:
 
Yep.... But honestly, I think it is more than that..

It often takes willing ignorance, & perhaps the ability to hold conflicting, MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE ideas simultaneously & NOT SEE A CONFLICT!! :dunno:
I think you mean compartmentalization? and I'm not trying to be facile, and any political bent is imperfect
( the whole lessor evils thing).
I can understand loathing Trump -there is much obnoxious and ignorant in his speech...

Idealy i'd just blow it off and go 3rd party AGAIN, as Johnson numbers are getting near 10% - and probably Stein is rising too.
I'm simply getting too old to hold on to idealism for it's own sake -not when there is still a chance to blow up the establishment -
even with a flawed vessel like Trump
 
I think you mean compartmentalization? and I'm not trying to be facile, and any political bent is imperfect
( the whole lessor evils thing).
I can understand loathing Trump -there is much obnoxious and ignorant in his speech...

Idealy i'd just blow it off and go 3rd party AGAIN, as Johnson numbers are getting near 10% - and probably Stein is rising too.
I'm simply getting too old to hold on to idealism for it's own sake -not when there is still a chance to blow up the establishment -
even with a flawed vessel like Trump

If Johnson is polling @ or near that I may just vote for him......

No, I think it is different, although that may be a part of it.... It is not easy to explain..

Example: ALthough I don't here it as much, not long ago many democrats called republicans "cons~neo-cons" & look @ bill clinton?? his wife, obama?? free trade, MIC, no labor party, full support of wall street/bailouts/subsidies etc etc :blah:

Evangelicals are supporting the womanizing casino owning pagan.

Republicans had all these "principles, morals & the constitution" & tossed cruz, rubio & the rest under the bus, along w/ many of those "principles" in a heart beat..

So how does EVE Christians supporting trump come into play?? Thinking your are making America more wholesome, moral etc buy hiring a self-promoting casino tycoon is going to do that?? LMAO!!!!
 
If Johnson is polling @ or near that I may just vote for him......

No, I think it is different, although that may be a part of it.... It is not easy to explain..

Example: ALthough I don't here it as much, not long ago many democrats called republicans "cons~neo..
strange days indeed.

 
man don't make me go thru it..play the music..just dig
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Everybody's talking and no one says a word
Everybody's making love and no one really cares
There's Nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs
Always something happening and nothing going on
 
LOL.:) I was just thinking because I might vote for Johnson.....
I saw him and his VP candidate former gov Bill Weld
today.
They said they are super-anti interventionists, and kinda libertarian light, as compared to say Rand Paul..
....they seemed harmless enough
 
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