I think Thing might be right about Trump

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I just listened to the first 10 minutes of his speech, and I really hate Hitler references, but I will admit, it was eerily similar.

Will continue.
 
Seahawk said:
I just listened to the first 10 minutes of his speech, and I really hate Hitler references, but I will admit, it was eerily similar.

Will continue.
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I think you need to think things thru a bit before hasty posting. But don't mind me -carry on.
 
anatta said:
I think you need to think things thru a bit before hasty posting. But don't mind me -carry on.
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Yeah, I did and watched the second half. Not as nationalist, but not necessarily Hilteristic either.

He is whipping up the masses. Sure Obama did this, but I don't think anywhere near this level.
 
Clock Town said:
Say what you want about hitler but he was a great public speaker.
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Hitler would NEVER make a positive statement about gays, Jews etc. People are free to disbelieve him but Trump does at least try and reach out to them.

Hitler also scapegoated Jews. Some people try and say Trump scapegoats Mexicans and Muslim immigrants but there's an important distinction: Jews in 1939 Germany weren't terrorizing Germans nor were any of them illegal immigrants that committed crimes [in any great number] against German citizens. And there certainly weren't any Jewish terrorist groups trying to infiltrate masses of Jewish immigrants into Germany during Hitlers time.

Scapegoats by definition, are innocent and the Jews were innocent. Muslim and Mexican immigrants can and have caused this country problems.

The only Hitler/Trump parallel that stands up is both are/were natural charismatic leaders. The comparison is lame and typically made during a fit of partisan hyperbole.
 
its not bad to run on a platform for the people instead of special interests. It just looks wierd because we havent seen it in 20-30 years.
 
I think the important point is that Hitler probably believed all that drivel about Jews, whereas Trump doesn't believe in anything other than getting the mugs on board by any means that will work.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Hitler would NEVER make a positive statement about gays, Jews etc. People are free to disbelieve him but Trump does at least try and reach out to them.

Hitler also scapegoated Jews. Some people try and say Trump scapegoats Mexicans and Muslim immigrants but there's an important distinction: Jews in 1939 Germany weren't terrorizing Germans nor were any of them illegal immigrants that committed crimes [in any great number] against German citizens. And there certainly weren't any Jewish terrorist groups trying to infiltrate masses of Jewish immigrants into Germany during Hitlers time.

Scapegoats by definition, are innocent and the Jews were innocent. Muslim and Mexican immigrants can and have caused this country problems.

The only Hitler/Trump parallel that stands up is both are/were natural charismatic leaders. The comparison is lame and typically made during a fit of partisan hyperbole.
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This is the excellent "coherent" argument you were referencing in the other thread?

Lame. Completely misses the basis of the comparison.

Substitute "dangerous demagogue" for "natural charismatic leader," and start from there. You're really blind to what Trump is.
 
Thing1 said:
This is the excellent "coherent" argument you were referencing in the other thread?

Lame. Completely misses the basis of the comparison.

Substitute "dangerous demagogue" for "natural charismatic leader," and start from there. You're really blind to what Trump is.
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Thing, you have a bad habit of proclaiming something lame without backing it up.

Dangerous demagoguery you say? Many people argue that Obama's racial demagoguery is 'dangerous'. That doesn't make him Hitler-like. It's more like the difference between dangerous demagogue and charismatic leader is a matter of partisan taste.

The Trump/Hitler comparison is lame for, the list, of reasons I gave.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Hitler would NEVER make a positive statement about gays, Jews etc. People are free to disbelieve him but Trump does at least try and reach out to them.

Hitler also scapegoated Jews. Some people try and say Trump scapegoats Mexicans and Muslim immigrants but there's an important distinction: Jews in 1939 Germany weren't terrorizing Germans nor were any of them illegal immigrants that committed crimes [in any great number] against German citizens. And there certainly weren't any Jewish terrorist groups trying to infiltrate masses of Jewish immigrants into Germany during Hitlers time.

Scapegoats by definition, are innocent and the Jews were innocent. Muslim and Mexican immigrants can and have caused this country problems.

The only Hitler/Trump parallel that stands up is both are/were natural charismatic leaders. The comparison is lame and typically made during a fit of partisan hyperbole.
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The bolded here is actually sickening & disturbing.

What nationality are you? What religion? Do you lose your innocence as soon as someone from that nationality or religion commits a crime?
 
Thing pretty much always declares he is right and you are always wrong or dopey or whatever when you don't agree with him. Strangely I rarely see say why or how, you're just supposed to take his word for it.

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Seahawk said:
Thing pretty much always declares he is right and you are always wrong or dopey or whatever when you don't agree with him. Strangely I rarely see say why or how, you're just supposed to take his word for it.

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Where did I declare I was right on this thread?
 
Thing1 said:
The bolded here is actually sickening & disturbing.

What nationality are you? What religion? Do you lose your innocence as soon as someone from that nationality or religion commits a crime?
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I'm a white Christian card carrying member of the Hetero male patriarchy lol.

But let's say I'm a white Christian citizen in another country. And let's say some of my white Christian brethren, periodically terrorized and attacked my fellow citizens in said country---and in one instance the death toll was in the thousands.

Would I be butt hurt if a politician proposed a temporary ban on immigration from my native country? On what basis would I conflate his intention to protect *my adopted country* from dangerous radicals---with bigotry against my religion?

I can think of, no basis.
 
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