"Lock her Up"

anatta said:
you and John are clueless on Libya.
You don't know a damn thing-neither of you - because neither of you do any research. Althea does at least a cursory look over.
But he could do more - he's a member of DCJ, and the Libyan Civil War 2014-Present (<-- link) easily covers the basics, as well as more detailed events.
Click to expand...
Let me get you a napkin...you have egg on your face
 
Althea said:
Go back to your second post in this thread, where you gobble up Christie's bogus claims like a dog gobbles shit from a cat litter box.

Pay special attention the your bolded nonsense about 'Hillary being the chief architect blah blah blah.

My link was to show you that other nations were as flawed in their gluttonous desire for Libya's oil.
Click to expand...
Blood for oil? really?
is that ALL you've got? Then why did the UN declare a "no fly" -was the humanitarian war - just all made up?
If so then why did Clinton organize along those lines; not a thing was mentioned internationally about "blood for oil"
Blumenthal's Emails are speculative at best. Where did Blumental get his info? do you know?

"Qaddafi must go" same as 'Assad must go" was Clinton's mantra. was that all about "oil"

Do the research I showed you before you come around with your 1/2 baked facile references.
I've given you 3 main sources, as well as the DCJ blog-use them.
 
Althea said:
2nd paragraph from this link....
Click to expand...

Did you look at the DATE on that link? It's DURING THE NATO WAR. It's RIGHT AFTER we assassinated Qadaffi!
What do you expect the western press to publish? an ode to how they lied themselves into war?

Look at the sources I gave you - they are look-backs with much independent research.
Not some ginned up jingoism by the NYTimes fresh with war fever.

And leave BAC out of it -your feud with him is none of my concerns ..

Even if this this crap were correct - and the bloodbath on Bengazi was true -and it's a fabrication that never happened in Bengazi
( & Qaddafi never used his AF on any other city he re-captured during the war )
It is STILL is true Clinton was the chief architect and advocate for the Libyan war! get it into your Democratic head! :)

All you are doing here is attempting to justify the NATO war - by a hit piece fresh off the press of our assassination
of Qaddafi near Sirte..
C'mon...do your homework!
 
mogur said:
I do it only to piss you off. You are a bit young (at least I assume so) to remember Goldwater. If you google him, you will realize the danger that he posed. When I was ten, I stumped for Goldwater. I was naive, my parents were Cleaver stock, and I thought that Goldwater was a man of conviction. I went door to door to tell homeowners that at the age of ten, I wanted Goldwater to be our next president. Thank god that they didn't believe me. I was ten. I was a fool. LBJ was no prize, either. But he won by a landslide, because at that time, America did not want a nuclear war. Would have Goldwater pressed the button? Probably not. But do you really want someone that threatens to use it? Hillary will not push the button unless there are nuclear ICBMs arcing towards our homeland. Donald wants to punish sand muslims. He and Goldwater would have been bretheren. Good luck with this election, fool.
Click to expand...
I don't give a fuck what you remember about Goldwater.....I do know you're lying out of your ass about Trump, which makes you a born liberal...why don't you just run off and vote for Hilldreary and settle back to lick your wounds until 2024.....

Hillary will not push the button unless there are nuclear ICBMs arcing towards our homeland.
Click to expand...

if we're stupid enough to elect her they probably will be.....
 
Althea said:
Let me get you a napkin...you have egg on your face
Click to expand...
you got nothing. do your homework.
I gave you plenty of sound sources .

Stick your Democratic mind on hold for once; and see Libya/Clinton for what/whom they are;
blood thirsty warmongering by Clinton's neocon dreams of democracy at the barrel of a gun/bomb.

In Libya/Syria,and Iraq. She never learns from her fuck ups, and she clings to her "smart power" excuses.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I don't give a fuck what you remember about Goldwater.....I do know you're lying out of your ass about Trump, which makes you a born liberal...why don't you just run off and vote for Hilldreary and settle back to lick your wounds until 2024.....



if we're stupid enough to elect her they probably will be.....
Click to expand...

2024? Who are you kidding?

No matter what happens, Trump is a guaranteed one-termer. And he'll create solid majorities on both the Senate & House for Dems if he wins. You'll get your rightie SCOTUS, though, so be happy w/ that (though w/ Trump, who really knows).
 
PostmodernProphet said:
if you will recall....oh, no you won't because you didn't listen to what he said.....he was talking about what she did to protect boko haram while she WAS the SoS
Click to expand...
I have to look at it (claims). It takes more then just a spinning "fact check" website, the chronology is obviously important
as the claims.
Democrats are stuck backing a neocon. They could have had a reformer like Bernie.
They get bent out of shape when her failures are presented to them - there is no wiggle room.
 
anatta said:
Did you look at the DATE on that link? It's DURING THE NATO WAR. It's RIGHT AFTER we assassinated Qadaffi!
What do you expect the western press to publish? an ode to how they lied themselves into war?

Look at the sources I gave you - they are look-backs with much independent research.
Not some ginned up jingoism by the NYTimes fresh with war fever.

And leave BAC out of it -your feud with him is none of my concerns ..

Even if this this crap were correct -
Click to expand...

JFC Cosmic....this is YOUR crap. I fucking cited your link.


How can I leave BAC out of this, when you've morphed into him?

I'm not going to debate the Libya issue with you. You have BAC's opinion, and the rest of the world has the truth.


The issue HERE, is the way you gobble Christie's sperm like some $10 dollar whore.

You offered his garbage up, and claimed it was true.

Now you cite links that don't even support your...needless to say Christie's....claims.

Up your game for fuck's sake.



anatta said:
Here are 3 sources you need to study up on to at least be fluent on Libya: 2 from the NYTimes and 1 from her own State dept.
Click to expand...
anatta said:
Get back to me once you have done the research. These are solid sources.
++

Hillary Clinton,
‘Smart Power’
and a
Dictator’s Fall

The president was wary. The
secretary of state was persuasive.
But the ouster of Col. Muammar
el-Qaddafi left Libya a failed
state and a terrorist haven.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us...ton-libya.html
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
Althea said:
JFC Cosmic....this is YOUR crap. I fucking cited your link.


How can I leave BAC out of this, when you've morphed into him?

I'm not going to debate the Libya issue with you. You have BAC's opinion, and the rest of the world has the truth.


The issue HERE, is the way you gobble Christie's sperm like some $10 dollar whore.

You offered his garbage up, and claimed it was true.

Now you cite links that don't even support your...needless to say Christie's....claims.

Up your game for fuck's sake.



Click to expand...
disgusting pig language. fuck you ****. I erroneously opened a link in your article -
but further down: (2nd NYTlink)

Mrs. Clinton, by contrast, pushed for greater American involvement early in the Syrian civil war and has repeatedly called for a no-fly zone, a move Mr. Obama has so far rejected. The lessons of the Libya experience have not tempered her more aggressive approach to international crises.

++

as to the rationale for the humanitarian war: we had no intelligence from inside Libya. It was based on news reports at best.
Clinton swallowed the whole thing based on a meeting with Jibril in Paris, when all the NTC was looking to do.
was save it's skin from anillation.
Qadaffi was never going to bomb Bengazi on a mass scale : The whole thing was made up


Was there going to be a Benghazi massacre?
As Alan Kuperman of the University of Texas and Stephen Chapman of the Chicago Tribune have now shown, the claim that the United States had to act to prevent Libyan tyrant Muammar al-Qaddafi from slaughtering tens of thousands of innocent civilians in Benghazi does not stand up to even casual scrutiny.
 Although everyone recognizes that Qaddafi is a brutal ruler, his forces did not conduct deliberate, large-scale massacres in any of the cities he has recaptured, and his violent threats to wreak vengeance on Benghazi were directed at those who continued to resist his rule, not at innocent bystanders
......


Despite ubiquitous cellphone cameras, there are no images of genocidal violence, a claim that smacks of rebel propaganda.
To claim, as Walt does, that these provocative thoughts demonstrate that the chances of a bloodbath were slight is an epic overreach
http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/04/07/was-there-going-to-be-a-benghazi-massacre/
 
Last edited by a moderator:
When asked to defend her record on Libya, Mrs. Clinton has taken a line quite the opposite of her aides’ previous insistence on her central role in the intervention. “At the end of the day, this was the president’s decision,” she told a House committee in October.

She has said the military alliance that overthrew Colonel Qaddafi represented “smart power at its best,” but called Libya “a classic case of a hard choice.” Mostly, she has insisted that history’s judgment on the intervention, and her role in it, are not yet final :rolleyes:

++
5 years and counting, and they are not final?
++
Mrs. Clinton, by contrast, pushed for greater American involvement early in the Syrian civil war and has repeatedly called for a no-fly zone, a move Mr. Obama has so far rejected.
The lessons of the Libya experience have not tempered her more aggressive approach to international crises
++

Given that background, Ms. Whitson, who monitored Libya for Human Rights Watch, thought the United States’ failure to follow up was unforgivable.
more deflections.. just exactly what type of "follow up" were we going to do after the standoff war?
were we going to put boots on the ground? It's nothing more thnObama and Clinton's obscuring their destruction of Libya
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/libya-isis-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top