Trump hasn't made tax returns public for 40 years

anatta said:
you'll see Trumps tax returns about the same time you'll see the texts of Hillary's Wall St. Speeches
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Every modern presidential candidate except your master has released their tax returns.

None have released the texts of their speeches given to private gatherings, as far as I know.
 
Legion Troll said:
Every modern presidential candidate except your master has released their tax returns.

None have released the texts of their speeches given to private gatherings, as far as I know.
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Clinton promised to release them /Trump promised to release them -see which if any comes first
 
Legion Troll said:
One isn't contingent on the other, except in your wishes.
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not contingent, but promised just the same.
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Personally I'd rather see what gets $200k a speech( it must be extremely ...inspirational..) then a billionaires tax return.
I would assume they cleared the IRS-so what are you going to find out? he didn't pay taxes? It's still legal.
 
anatta said:
not contingent, but promised just the same.
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Personally I'd rather see what gets $200k a speech( it must be extremely ...inspirational..) then a billionaires tax return.
I would assume they cleared the IRS-so what are you going to find out? he didn't pay taxes? It's still legal.
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It's no different from paying star athletes millions and millions, which breaks down to six figures per game. Andrew Luck has a $140 million contract for six years.
 
anatta said:
Personally I'd rather see what gets $200k a speech( it must be extremely ...inspirational..)
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Like a Trump University seminar?

It is customary for candidates to release their returns.

It is not customary to release the text of speeches given to business groups.

Your Master has not even used the excuse you are clinging to.

What is your Master hiding?
 
christiefan915 said:
I think the article is using the word "release" incorrectly about his past returns. In the story they say "disclosed", as part of a report.

Now he ran Trump Resorts as a public company back in the '90s. He raised $140 million in the IPO. By 2005 investors lost 90 cents on the dollar. Investors lost money every single year he ran the Resorts as a public company. Here's something from Market Watch, and I'll post a link to the whole article.

"Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts lost money every single year that Trump ran it as a public company. Net losses of $13 million in 1995 ballooned to $134 million by 1999, and $191 million in 2004. Not even his chosen accounting firm, Arthur Andersen (of Enron fame), could have hidden all the red ink. In total, from 1995 through 2004, the company booked total losses of $647 million.

Trump had complete control — both as the chairman and as the owner of a special class of stock that carried many more votes than those he sold to the public. He even gave the company his initials, DJT, as its stock ticker symbol.

Its debts mounted, the stock collapsed — and in the end, the creditors had had enough. The courts stepped in, the company had to go through a Chapter 11 bankruptcy reorganization, and The Donald ended up with a largely ceremonial role — sort of like the guy in the costume welcoming you to Caesar’s Palace. By April 2004, someone who had invested a notional $100 in the IPO was left with about $10.

And it wasn’t like you could blame wider troubles in the industry, the economy or the stock market. Over the same period, investors in competitor Harrah’s Entertainment more than doubled their money. Investors in luxury hotel, casino and resort companies like Starwood and MGM earned returns of more than 400%. Even the plain old stock market index more than doubled.

It is already well-known that Trump’s businesses have passed through Chapter 11 four times over the past 25 years. Creditors have lost billions along the way. But as most of this has involved complex debt arrangements between Trump, his various business entities and dozens of banks, the details can easily get lost in the shuffle. Trump himself says he has merely been “smart” to use the corporate laws — including the bankruptcy code — to his advantage.

But the stock market is a little different. The losses are very public and very easy to follow — and the losers are ordinary investors who bought the stock directly or through mutual funds. Even worse, many of those investors are voters, too.

All in all, it’s a lucky thing for Trump that the public is so easily distracted … and have such short memories.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-market-disaster-2015-07-22
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We're not going to see his personal tax returns from taking a company public either. Our system just isn't set up that way.

As a candidate I think he should show his returns just as others have but I think Daily Kos is pulling the wool over partisan readers who don't understand how this financial process works.
 
Legion Troll said:
Like a Trump University seminar?

It is customary for candidates to release their returns.

It is not customary to release the text of speeches given to business groups.

Your Master has not even used the excuse you are clinging to.

What is your Master hiding?
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you are boringly repetitious tonight !
yes it's customary, and it ( probly will be done) but other then that what info can you find out.
I'm much more piqued at how a speech to wall st can bring in almost $1/4 million

How many more time do you want to repeat this?
 
cawacko said:
We're not going to see his personal tax returns from taking a company public either. Our system just isn't set up that way.

As a candidate I think he should show his returns just as others have but I think Daily Kos is pulling the wool over partisan readers who don't understand how this financial process works.
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Kos doesn't say "personal" anywhere, it just says tax returns. Be that as it may, Kerry's returns were personal.
 
Legion Troll said:
Like a Trump University seminar?

It is customary for candidates to release their returns.

It is not customary to release the text of speeches given to business groups.

Your Master has not even used the excuse you are clinging to.

What is your Master hiding?
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Trump is underwater.
 
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