OJ: Made in America

It's snacktime said:
I enjoyed it cause I was only 9 and 10 when all that shit going on. I remember seeing the trial on in the background cause my parents were watching it but I never knew the finer details of the case.
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I completely ignored it while it was going on. Until the final verdict was delivered, I just got snippets of conversation going on around me. So I never got burned-out, and can better appreciate all of the recent media coverage.
 
cawacko said:
I went to USC so I have a love for OJ from that perspective that transcends all. I was a senior in school when the trial was occurring and the verdict came. That was a wild time in LA.

At the 2004 Orange Bowl when USC beat Oklahoma 55-19 OJ and AC Cowlings sat ten rows behind me. As we left I found myself standing next to the two of them in the aisle way. I took a picture with OJ and he put his arm around me. It is hard to describe in words how large and how strong OJ's forearm was (no homo). If he decided to do something no one stood a chance.
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I haven't been watching but "love for OJ", are you serious?
 
cawacko said:
In one of the previews there were black women on the jury who didn't feel sympathy for Nicole because she kept going back to him after he beat her.

But there was a whole dynamic I can't speak to that they referenced and that's how black women feel towards white women who marry successful black men.
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So they didn't criticize OJ for beating, they criticized the victim? Nice.
 
Watching more of the series. Furhman is being interviewed. He said he went to the Rockingham home in 1985 when 911 was called. He said OJ was standing there with a bat and the back window of their Mercedes had been shattered. He said Nicole was sitting their balling. He said there was a rage on OJ's face.

Juice beat the sh*t out of this woman. This must have been where Furhman did his due diligence to know where to plant the glove a decade later.
 
christiefan915 said:
So they didn't criticize OJ for beating, they criticized the victim? Nice.
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Watching it right now (I know should be working) and it's Juror #9. She's an old black woman who was probably around 60 at the time of the trial. Her exact quote is this, "Let me tell you. I lose respect for any woman who takes an *ss whooping when she don't have to. Don't stay in the water if it's over your head. You'll drown."
 
cawacko said:
Watching more of the series. Furhman is being interviewed. He said he went to the Rockingham home in 1985 when 911 was called. He said OJ was standing there with a bat and the back window of their Mercedes had been shattered. He said Nicole was sitting their balling. He said there was a rage on OJ's face.

Juice beat the sh*t out of this woman. This must have been where Furhman did his due diligence to know where to plant the glove a decade later.
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So, who did commit the murders?
 
I started watching it Cawacko, I dvr'd it on ESPN they keep rerunning it so it was easy. Then last weekend I came down with a flu that is the worst thing I ever had and I am still sick, but since Friday I able to speak and point to the tv and say "OJ". Just as an aside, what great pleasure it gave me to just happen to open this board, just on the off chance i could distract myself from my illness ( I couldn't because reading the screen made me feel more nauseous) and just happen to open a thread those two pissant little woman hating rat fuckers anatta and Tom tried to sneak by. I almost have this image of them looking furtively around, oh Darla's not posting, and going for it "Hey BROS guess what Jimmy CARTER says Hillarys a lying whore we were right we were right!!!!". And the joy I took in sniping those two disgusting little shit-encrusted rodents was the only pleasure in that fever-filled day. But it was a fine one.

Anway, I am at the end of part 3. Really the egos here are amazing. I was watching Marcia Clark actually state "I can really speak to black women" and go and on about the special connection she had with black women. Now I remember her well and she never came off like she had a connection to anyone. That implies being able to tell a story and bring your audience along with you emotionally. She did nothing but lecture and instruct. It was always you MUST do this, you MUST find this, you MUST find that. And Chris Dardin and of course every single one of them at the defense table. But who really stands out for being absolutely off-the-charts repulsive is Cochran. I really didn't know he had such a repellent, repulsive personality. And I'm someone who would naturally be on his side and believe his work against the notorious abuses of that very sick LAPD that existed then was good work.

As far as any idea of OJ being innocent, that's just offensive. He was a man who beat his wife over a period of years, who controlled her, who dominated her, tortured her, and who abused her in every way including mentally, keeping her in a state of terror. A classic abuser who eventually murdered his victim exactly when he judged she had finally broken free from his control. The same exact time it always happens.

It is an excellent series and I really appreciate the historical work ESPN did here, I learned a lot. I absolutely LOVED the juxtaposition between athletes and men like Ali and Jim Brown, men of character. And we saw that early on OJ had no character. I thought that was so striking. He was a narcissist who eventually turned into a monster from OD'ing on adulation, love and worship. From celebrity. But he was who he was at the beginning. That was always there.
 
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The Best running back to ever play? Without a doubt "Marcus Dupree". He missed his window due to poor management by a supposed close family friend. He went to the USFL for the money that was stolen by his friend...agent, and they worked him like a mule...causing simple injuries one after another. When he did play "healthy".....there was none that could touch him...not even the greats of history. It was like watching a man play against children. When he did get his second chance to play in the NFL.... he was well past his prime. For documentation watch the documentary "The best that never was...."
 
Darla said:
I started watching it Cawacko, I dvr'd it on ESPN they keep rerunning it so it was easy. Then last weekend I came down with a flu that is the worst thing I ever had and I am still sick, but since Friday I able to speak and point to the tv and say "OJ". Just as an aside, what great pleasure it gave me to just happen to open this board, just on the off chance i could distract myself from my illness ( I couldn't because reading the screen made me feel more nauseous) and just happen to open a thread those two pissant little woman hating rat fuckers anatta and Tom tried to sneak by. I almost have this image of them looking furtively around, oh Darla's not posting, and going for it "Hey BROS guess what Jimmy CARTER says Hillarys a lying whore we were right we were right!!!!". And the joy I took in sniping those two disgusting little shit-encrusted rodents was the only pleasure in that fever-filled day. But it was a fine one.

Anway, I am at the end of part 3. Really the egos here are amazing. I was watching Marcia Clark actually state "I can really speak to black women" and go and on about the special connection she had with black women. Now I remember her well and she never came off like she had a connection to anyone. That implies being able to tell a story and bring your audience along with you emotionally. She did nothing but lecture and instruct. It was always you MUST do this, you MUST find this, you MUST find that. And Chris Dardin and of course every single one of them at the defense table. But who really stands out for being absolutely off-the-charts repulsive is Cochran. I really didn't know he had such a repellent, repulsive personality. And I'm someone who would naturally be on his side and believe his work against the notorious abuses of that very sick LAPD that existed then was good work.

As far as any idea of OJ being innocent, that's just offensive. He was a man who beat his wife over a period of years, who controlled her, who dominated her, tortured her, and who abused her in every way including mentally, keeping her in a state of terror. A classic abuser who eventually murdered his victim exactly when he judged she had finally broken free from his control. The same exact time it always happens.

It is an excellent series and I really appreciate the historical work ESPN did here, I learned a lot. I absolutely LOVED the juxtaposition between athletes and MEN like Ali and Jim Brown, men of character. And we saw that early on OJ had no character. I thought that was so striking. He was a narcissist who eventually turned into a monster from OD'ing on adulation, love and worship. From celebrity. But he was who he was at the beginning. That was always there.
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I just love how irrational you get over me, you've made my day! By the way, I agree with you that OJ was guilty. The final straw was his wife having an affair with his protege, classic motive.

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Milagro said:
I just love how irrational you get over me, you've made my day! By the way, I agree with you that OJ was guilty. The final straw was his wife having an affair with his protege, classic motive.

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I showed you for the lying fool you are, let's see, how many times does this make now?

And you ran and pretended you didn't see anything as you always do. You have no shame because you're not a man.
 
Ralph said:
The Best running back to ever play? Without a doubt "Marcus Dupree". He missed his window due to poor management by a supposed close family friend. He went to the USFL for the money that was stolen by his friend...agent, and they worked him like a mule...causing simple injuries one after another. When he did play "healthy".....there was none that could touch him...not even the greats of history. It was like watching a man play against children. When he did get his second chance to play in the NFL.... he was well past his prime. For documentation watch the documentary "The best that never was...."
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This is debatable and it comes down to personal choice, usually by the period of the league that the individual fan witnessed. You're absolutely right because it is impossible to name the best ever according to the stats or even the period.

A lot of fans my age will name the Kansas Comet, Gale Sayers as the best ever. He played on mediocre Bears teams and his career ended prematurely following a horrible injury. Again, my personal choice for best ever was Brown.

But that doesn't mean that I'm right and you're wrong.
 
Darla said:
I showed you for the lying fool you are, let's see, how many times does this make now?

And you ran and pretended you didn't see anything as you always do. You have no shame because you're not a man.
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Haven't a clue, none would be my guess!! On the subject of running away, you soon went quiet when the FTSE 100 and 250 rocketed up, you should stop reading that old battleaxe Polly Toynbee in the Grauniad!! I have made a fuckton of filthy lucre from buying shares when they dipped, good job I don't take financial advice from harridan harpies like you.

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