Althea
Althea told me...
You're stupider than anyone here gives you credit for.
Baby steps....how do they pay a fine?
Please elaborate
Do you enjoy paying for free healthcare for 12 million Mexicans
- Thread starter TheDonald
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Baby steps....how do they pay a fine?
Please elaborate
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
"The Donald" is just another willfully ignorant right wing crank. Let's just dispel his delusion:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...e-health-care-illegal-immigrants-health-bill/
http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/
And if this dumb Donald is referring to using emergency rooms as free medical on the taxpayers backs....newsflash for ya, Donny...they ain't the only ones http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...r/2008/09/the_allure_of_the_onestop_shop.html
so get your head out of Limbaugh's ass and use the brain that God gave you before your fingers hit the keys next time, will ya please?
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...e-health-care-illegal-immigrants-health-bill/
http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/
And if this dumb Donald is referring to using emergency rooms as free medical on the taxpayers backs....newsflash for ya, Donny...they ain't the only ones http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...r/2008/09/the_allure_of_the_onestop_shop.html
so get your head out of Limbaugh's ass and use the brain that God gave you before your fingers hit the keys next time, will ya please?
"The Donald" is just another willfully ignorant right wing crank. Let's just dispel his delusion:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...e-health-care-illegal-immigrants-health-bill/
http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/
And if this dumb Donald is referring to using emergency rooms as free medical on the taxpayers backs....newsflash for ya, Donny...they ain't the only ones http://www.slate.com/articles/healt...r/2008/09/the_allure_of_the_onestop_shop.html
so get your head out of Limbaugh's ass and use the brain that God gave you before your fingers hit the keys next time, will ya please?
Yawn http://www.newsmax.com/US/Obamacare...-Act-illegal-immigrants/2014/09/23/id/596383/
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
You "forgot" to post these tidbits from the article you cited in your other thread - which is 3 years old and concerns one hospital:
Though the patients won't be required to show immigration documents, they will be asked to demonstrate that they are able to afford costly ongoing post-operative care. Since Gomez and most of the other patients lack insurance, there's still no guarantee that they’ll be given a chance at a transplant.
Indeed, exclusion from healthcare due to immigration status often overlaps with exclusion due to lack of insurance. Some undocumented immigrants are enrolled in employer-sponsored health insurance plans, but many are locked into low-wage jobs unlikely to provide benefits. They are also prohibited from receiving federal public benefits, including Medicare and Medicaid. The result is that approximately 7 million lack health insurance, according to the Pew Hispanic Center.
For the undocumented, organ transplants represent a particularly devastating gap in access to care. An exception to the Medicaid prohibition is made for services considered “emergency procedures,” including care for childbirth and for life-threatening conditions. In most states, however, organ transplants are explicitly excluded from the list of emergency procedures that are covered regardless of citizenship status—potentially disincentivizing hospitals from providing the procedure to the undocumented. In many states, the result is that Medicaid funding can be used for dialysis treatments for undocumented immigrants, but not for transplants—even though a transplant would often be cheaper than a lifetime of dialysis.
Anti-immigrant politicians who have weighed in on the question of transplants for undocumented immigrants make the case for transplant exclusion more crudely. “They should not get any benefit from breaking the law, especially something as expensive as organ transplants or dialysis, said” U.S. Rep. Dana T. Rohrabacher, (R-Calif.).
http://inthesetimes.com/article/15428/undocumented_hunger_strikers_win_access_to_lifesaving_healthcare
Though the patients won't be required to show immigration documents, they will be asked to demonstrate that they are able to afford costly ongoing post-operative care. Since Gomez and most of the other patients lack insurance, there's still no guarantee that they’ll be given a chance at a transplant.
Indeed, exclusion from healthcare due to immigration status often overlaps with exclusion due to lack of insurance. Some undocumented immigrants are enrolled in employer-sponsored health insurance plans, but many are locked into low-wage jobs unlikely to provide benefits. They are also prohibited from receiving federal public benefits, including Medicare and Medicaid. The result is that approximately 7 million lack health insurance, according to the Pew Hispanic Center.
For the undocumented, organ transplants represent a particularly devastating gap in access to care. An exception to the Medicaid prohibition is made for services considered “emergency procedures,” including care for childbirth and for life-threatening conditions. In most states, however, organ transplants are explicitly excluded from the list of emergency procedures that are covered regardless of citizenship status—potentially disincentivizing hospitals from providing the procedure to the undocumented. In many states, the result is that Medicaid funding can be used for dialysis treatments for undocumented immigrants, but not for transplants—even though a transplant would often be cheaper than a lifetime of dialysis.
Anti-immigrant politicians who have weighed in on the question of transplants for undocumented immigrants make the case for transplant exclusion more crudely. “They should not get any benefit from breaking the law, especially something as expensive as organ transplants or dialysis, said” U.S. Rep. Dana T. Rohrabacher, (R-Calif.).
http://inthesetimes.com/article/15428/undocumented_hunger_strikers_win_access_to_lifesaving_healthcare
This doesn't say 12 million Mexicans got free health care. It says there was a problem with tax credits but that doesn't mean the filers are ineligible. It also makes no mention that they were Mexicans.
"The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services confirmed to FoxNews.com on Monday that 471,000 customers with 2015 coverage failed to produce proper documentation on their citizenship or immigration status on time – but stressed that this does not necessarily mean they’re ineligible.
“Lack of verification does not mean an individual is ineligible for financial assistance, but only that a Marketplace did not receive sufficient information to verify eligibility in the time period outlined in the law,” CMS spokesman Aaron Albright said."
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
Your source says some county officials choose to treat illegals....so you lied again.
I'm not paying for free healthcare for 12 million Mexicans.
Your source says some county officials choose to treat illegals....so you lied again.
I'm not paying for free healthcare for 12 million Mexicans.
So now you believe that only some county officials are governed by Obamacare rules.
This is comical, R U a cartoon in real life?
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
gosh.....I wonder why all the Mexicans aren't in Mexico....
signalmankenneth
Verified User
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
I am saying what the article you cited as a source said - which was not "only some county officials are governed by Obamacare rules".
You didn't even read the article because you don't have a WSJ subscription, do you?
I can see you now, frantically Googling "illegals free healthcare" and then posting any fucking link you find without reading what is actually said.
THE DONALD
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
Keep Googling and posting links to articles that don't prove what you said.
Do it for my amusement.
Do it for my amusement.
Sure will do it for my amusement
Babbles from the troll that believes that President Obama is throwing illegal aliens who need treatment into the street to die, instead of admitting that they get healthcare paid entirely for by the American taxpayer.
So what is your favorite ice cream kid?
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
Are you supporting "The Donald" in his claim that Obamacare pays for the healthcare of illegals, Pimp?
I thought you were just slightly smarter than that.
Maybe I was wrong in thinking that.
PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
I am supporting Trump in his plan to return those who are not here legally to Mexico.....if they need medical care and they get free medical care in Mexico it would appear to be a no-brainer.......interesting that liberals still don't get no-brainers........guess you're in a new sub-category.......never-get-a-brainers?.......
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
So you are not that stupid. But you are enough of a Douche bag to never recognize that a fellow Trumptard is totally full of crap and instead create a pointless straw man about Mexico's healthcare system.
USFREEDUMB will be so proud of your well learned douchebaggery.
ONLY A ILLEGAL LOVING COMMIE WOULD GIVE FREE CARE TO ANYONE, ESPECIALLY MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL MEXICANS..
Who could such a person be?? In 1986, President Reagan signed the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act into law, which requires virtually all hospitals to provide emergency care regardless of the patient’s ability to pay, citizenship or immigration status. The Act imposes significant penalties on hospitals for noncompliance but provides no funding to finance emergency room care. This causes hospitals to increase the price of emergency room care so that it can recoup some of its costs from insured patients who access emergency room care. It also causes hospitals to increase the cost of non-emergency medical care provided to insured/paying patients.
Same guy that legalized all those illegals
