Are Cons Coming to Terms With Racism in American Policing?

[dnsmith1935]

Indeed and this can only happen if "tolerance" is taught at home instead of hate due to our cultural differences....All races can be and are American, its the world's melting pot....with the common denominator being, ALL RACES BLEED RED when they are defending freedom from tyranny. The United States is the worlds greatest societal EXPERIMENT....and there are many that do want to see a continuance of that proven success over a 240 year period. Its like the tower of Babble......those around the world in power, never enjoy the many working as one with one knowledge and one goal, its SEGREGATION and DIVISION that allows corrupted power to exist....pitting our differences against each other instead of enjoying the "spiritual" benefits of this successful EXPERIMENT IN HUMANITY....where everyone is judged by the content of his/her heart instead of his apparent physical RACE.

As a retired military individual....I can relay to you a truth taught by experience....there are no differences in gods, races or cultures when the common goal is staying alive...not because you believe in some IDEA or PHILOSOPHY, but because you have got to know your fellow soldiers and accept them as family, its that sense of family that keeps you watching the back of your comrades in arms, no one enjoys the ache that comes from losing FAMILY. Some can deal....others collapse within themselves and are shunned by society when it calls that sense of loss...PTSD, or some other fabricated false dx. Hell....everyone grieves and suffers, and goes just a little bonkers and self medicates to overcome the insanity...WHEN THEY LOSE THOSE THEY HAVE GROWN TO LOVE...in a familiar and platonic fashion. But....freedom endures because of that continued societal experiment known as the United States of America.

27 years CW4. Then they authorized CW5 but 3 more years? No!

Who else can the world turn to in times of crisis, if not US....WHO? We are populated by THE WORLD..we owe the world the success of our experiment that has been proven to produce nothing but liberty from tyranny.....when the commonality of assimilation is accepted. To some "patriotism" is an evil word...but it overcomes when push comes to shove.

One issue; our government is almost to the point of tyranny that people are getting more and more angry. That is why Trump did so well. I will vote green this election because I don't like Trump and I wouldn't vote for Hitlery the corporate whore for dog catcher.

 

[dnsmith1935]

You post such idiotic memes. No sane person believes that crap.

 

[dnsmith1935]

The man in that video is white.

Did you notice that he didn't get shot?

Yet police shoot twice as many whites as blacks. Why do you whine and cry so much?

 

[Ralph]

The man in that video is white.

Did you notice that he didn't get shot?

As I stated....YOU are the one that keeps pointing out COLORS....I simply see a man. What difference does it make? The color of skin makes no man harm another man....no more than the color of someone's skin demonstrates acts of compassion or empathy. Its the evil that rests within THE MAN of any color that produces unjustified hatred and violence...and THE LORD knows this world is populated with enough evil asses from all races of people.

The first thought from your hate filled mind was an attempt to POINT TO THE COLOR of a person. Really? And you are not guilty of stirring the racist pot when you point to COLOR and suggest that must be considered in making a logical and reasoned judgment concerning someone's character or lack thereof? Keep stirring COMRADE! There has never been any person that was white that was ever shot and killed by another white officer.....just like there has never been a black person killed by a black police officer....nor does black on black crime kill far more innocent people than all the police forces of these United States combined...each and every year. I see no point...I see only hatred from both sides of the HUMAN ISLE. Its not COLOR that makes these individuals KILL....its the hard heart of hatred they have been instructed from birth....or just plain fear due to ignorance..again instructed at HOME.

 

[Legion Troll]

In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. Because the white population is approximately five times larger than the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.05894dd5ebfc

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Agree completely.

It seems pretty clear he was resisting arrest. But from my observation when the two officers were on top of him he was in no position to be able to reach his gun.

So it is your experience that no one has ever been able to break free, pull a gun, and shoot anyone?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I like your logic. But I am not one to get involved in a discussion using words you would not say in front of your mother.

Are you suggesting that Christie has acted like my mother did or are you saying that she would say the things she has, in front of her mother?

 

[cawacko]

So it is your experience that no one has ever been able to break free, pull a gun, and shoot anyone?

It is my observation that this person had two police officers on top of him and was nowhere near able to grab a gun and shoot either of them and thus the shooting was excessive. However I have also said I haven't seen what took place prior and heard the whole story and thus will wait for all information before making a final conclusion.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

It is my observation that this person had two police officers on top of him and was nowhere near able to grab a gun and shoot either of them and thus the shooting was excessive. However I have also said I haven't seen what took place prior and heard the whole story and thus will wait for all information before making a final conclusion.

I'm not asking you what happened prior or what the entire story may reveal, I asked you specific question; because you addressed a specific incident.

Since you didn't really answer it, I'll ask it again:
So it is your experience that no one has ever been able to break free, pull a gun, and shoot anyone?

 

[cawacko]

I'm not asking you what happened prior or what the entire story may reveal, I asked you specific question; because you addressed a specific incident.

Since you didn't really answer it, I'll ask it again:
So it is your experience that no one has ever been able to break free, pull a gun, and shoot anyone?

Cut to the chase, yes people have broken away from police before and therefore that justifies this shooting?

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Cut to the chase, yes people have broken away from police before and therefore that justifies this shooting?

I never used the word justification; but you do seem to be suggesting that there was no reason, because he there were two cops "holding him down".

 

[cawacko]

I never used the word justification; but you do seem to be suggesting that there was no reason, because he there were two cops "holding him down".

Yes. Based strictly on what I can see in the video it looked to me like the suspect was in no position to reach for a gun or any weapon and thus the shooting was unnecessary.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Yes. Based strictly on what I can see in the video it looked to me like the suspect was in no position to reach for a gun or any weapon and thus the shooting was unnecessary.

"...looked like..."

What about what it "looked like" to the two Officers or do you even care; because I can't remember all the discussions where an armchair quarterback said that it "looked like" the receiver should have made the catch?

 

[cawacko]

"...looked like..."

What about what it "looked like" to the two Officers or do you even care; because I can't remember all the discussions where an armchair quarterback said that it "looked like" the receiver should have made the catch?

So you're not "justifying" the shooting but you're saying anyone who doesn't justify it is wrong. Gotcha.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

So you're not "justifying" the shooting but you're saying anyone who doesn't justify it is wrong. Gotcha.

Since I don't have all the info, I'm not justifying or condemning anything; except for those who want to jump to conclusions by what it "looks like".
Let's see:
There was an "ear witness" who said it sounded like something.
There were "eye witnesses" who said it looked like someone had their hands up.
There were "eye witnesses" who said someone was executed after he surrendered and was kneeling on the ground.
etc.
etc.
etc.

 

[dnsmith1935]

In 2015, The Washington Post launched a real-time database to track fatal police shootings, and the project continues this year. U.S. police officers have shot and killed the exact same number of unarmed white people as they have unarmed black people: 50 each. Because the white population is approximately five times larger than the black population, that means unarmed black Americans were five times as likely as unarmed white Americans to be shot and killed by a police officer.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/11/arent-more-white-people-than-black-people-killed-by-police-yes-but-no/?utm_term=.05894dd5ebfc

Here is what they actually said, "In 2015, The Post documented 990 fatal shootings by police, 93 of which involved people who were unarmed. Black men accounted for about 40 percent of the unarmed people fatally shot by police and, when adjusted by population, were seven times as likely as unarmed white men to die from police gunfire, The Post found."

But the Washington post did not look at the big picture, "Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as MacDonald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population."

When you read one study you fail to understand the whole picture. The Washington post numbers were close to other studies, but they do not take all the variables.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

 

[dnsmith1935]

Are you suggesting that Christie has acted like my mother did or are you saying that she would say the things she has, in front of her mother?

I forgot, but I do accept all of your basic opinions as stated here. Keep up the good work.

 

[cawacko]

Since I don't have all the info, I'm not justifying or condemning anything; except for those who want to jump to conclusions by what it "looks like".
Let's see:
There was an "ear witness" who said it sounded like something.
There were "eye witnesses" who said it looked like someone had their hands up.
There were "eye witnesses" who said someone was executed after he surrendered and was kneeling on the ground.
etc.
etc.
etc.

So basically there should be zero discussion on this event on this board until the justice department report comes out?

 

[Darth Omar]

Here is what they actually said, "In 2015, The Post documented 990 fatal shootings by police, 93 of which involved people who were unarmed. Black men accounted for about 40 percent of the unarmed people fatally shot by police and, when adjusted by population, were seven times as likely as unarmed white men to die from police gunfire, The Post found."

But the Washington post did not look at the big picture, "Some may argue that these statistics are evidence of racist treatment toward blacks, since whites consist of 62 percent of the population and blacks make up 13 percent of the population. But as MacDonald writes in The Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties.

"Such a concentration of criminal violence in minority communities means that officers will be disproportionately confronting armed and often resisting suspects in those communities, raising officers’ own risk of using lethal force," writes MacDonald.

MacDonald also pointed out in her Hillsdale speech that blacks "commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime" in New York City, even though they consist of 23 percent of the city's population."

When you read one study you fail to understand the whole picture. The Washington post numbers were close to other studies, but they do not take all the variables.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

MacDonald and her study is going to be a thorn in the side of the open season on blacks narrative.

 

[Taft2016]

"...looked like..."

What about what it "looked like" to the two Officers or do you even care; because I can't remember all the discussions where an armchair quarterback said that it "looked like" the receiver should have made the catch?

Does it matter? Look at how much fun shooting people is. Who wouldn't want to get in on all of this fun?

They were probably sitting around in their car talking "You know what? It's pretty dull tonight. What do you say we light somebody up for absolutely no reason?"

I swear libtards are brainless.