Should the workers seize power?

Should the workers seize power?

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Mott's ex.
 
Typical Mott humour: "I had to quit bangin' Dolly the day I proposed to the missus, and she said 'yes.' Of course, she had to wait a month for me to get out of Arkansas prison due to me driving through with an expired license. Only Dolly showed-up the day I got out."
 
cawacko said:
People don't come out where I live because they want to join a union. They do so because they want to "change the world" and maybe get rich in the meantime.
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That's great. That's wonderful. I share their vision. They don't represent everyone though. In fact just a small fraction of people.

How many of them have professional or technical licensing or certification Wacko? You're confusing labor organizing with ye old time labor union. Though there's plenty of opportunity for them to grow too. You just have zeroed in on factories. You make a false and dangerous assumption that in the modern economy labor will always be at a disadvantage to management or management will just simply ship jobs elsewhere as it's cheaper. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that can change.

You also have a shit load of people who work in the trades, many of whom are as skilled as these silicon valley geeks and they have real world experience with employers who will organize to pay them as little as humanly possible. That's why so many of the skilled trades are unionized. You're belief that unions are an anachronism is based on hubris and snobbery.

Whether you like it or not history has proven the three best methods to help address issues of inequality are education, infrastructure investment and labor organization. As inequality continues to grow in this nation you will, not if, you will see greater political demands for all three.
 
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Mott the Hoople said:
That's great. That's wonderful. I share their vision. They don't represent everyone though. In fact just a small fraction of people.

How many of them have professional or technical licensing or certification Wacko? You're confusing labor organizing with ye old time labor union. Though there's plenty of opportunity for them to grow too. You just have zeroed in on factories. You make a false and dangerous assumption that in the modern economy labor will always be at a disadvantage to management or management will just simply ship jobs elsewhere as it's cheaper. You're kidding yourself if you don't think that can change.

You also have a shit load of people who work in the trades, many of whom are as skilled as these silicon valley geeks and they have real world experience with employers who will organize to pay them as little as humanly possible. That's why so many of the skilled trades are unionized. You're belief that unions are an anachronism is based on hubris and snobbery.

Whether you like it or not history has proven the three best methods to help address issues of inequality are education, infrastructure investment and labor organization. As inequality continues to grow in this nation you will, not if, you will see greater political demands for all three.
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Unions workers make up less than 10% of private sector employees and to my knowledge that number isn't growing. Maybe one day it will again but it's far less likely in a globalized economy. I don't think it's arrogant to say that. That's just reality.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Does 'tongue in cheek' mean anything over there lol.

What's rubbish is this vacuous notion that workers might 'rise up'. They're too busy working lol!

But with luck they'll rise up at the ballot box.
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Workers would be idiots to vote for a candidate who owns factories in China.
 
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