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Senate Democrats Block Kate's Law, Anti-Sanctuary City Law
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F_Donald_Weldon
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No one need not ‘justify’ something that isn’t happening:
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Rana doesn't care about the Kate's of the world. She only sees dedicated democrat voters. She also believes that her family will be unaffected by this
cawacko
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That's right, we just imagined the background of Kate's shooter. My bad.
Darth Omar
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Finally! On page two the nagging question gets asked lol.
Isn't federal law supposed to reign supreme in Liberal Land? I don't know what their constitutional justification for sanctuary cities is, but it better not be the 10th Amendment.
Here is Hanson on sanctuary cities, he compares it to confederate nullification:
"Forget about principles, because there are no consistent principles: sanctuary cities would never allow their precedents to apply to other jurisdictions that did not share their own liberal pieties. They believe federal law is omnipotent for everyone other than their own exalted classes, and they believe that borders, jurisdiction, and the sovereignty of laws are a good thing -- but only to the degree that they enhance their own utopian worldview.
The intellectual pedigree of sanctuary cities is not 1960s one-world ecumenicalism, but 1850s Confederate nullification. Their logical consequence is not a wide-open transnational continent, but utter disunion among the states and a second confederate attempt at destroying the primacy of the federal government.
Their politics are not exalted, but parochial, tribal, and demographic: sanctuary cities are predicated on the emergence of a large and politically potent Latino liberal demographic. Otherwise San Francisco or Los Angeles would be willing to turn over to ICE, for example, a lone Serbian illegal alien who had disrupted an environmental rally, or an Australian who overstayed his visa and began participating in "Trump for President" rallies. If thousands of Hungarian atheists were apprehended for committing crimes in Los Angeles, the Catholic archdiocese would stay mum about their deportation.
Nullification, neo-Confederate, tribal, and cynical are the proper epithets for such cities, which are best summed up as “cities of nihilism.”
https://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/the-nihilism-of-sanctuary-cities/3/
F_Donald_Weldon
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Blocking the bill was perfectly appropriate and warranted, as it would in no way have realized its desired effect.
Again, the notion of ‘sanctuary cities’ is a myth, a ridiculous contrivance of the right, as none of these jurisdictions are in violation of Federal law.
Moreover, the proposed legislation is in fact partisan demagoguery and fear-mongering by republicans.
Last, the proposed measure exhibites the hypocrisy common most on the right, seeking to expand the authority of the Federal government at the expense of the rights of local jurisdictions – which is clearly not very ‘conservative.’
Again, the notion of ‘sanctuary cities’ is a myth, a ridiculous contrivance of the right, as none of these jurisdictions are in violation of Federal law.
Moreover, the proposed legislation is in fact partisan demagoguery and fear-mongering by republicans.
Last, the proposed measure exhibites the hypocrisy common most on the right, seeking to expand the authority of the Federal government at the expense of the rights of local jurisdictions – which is clearly not very ‘conservative.’
Darth Omar
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So, picking and choosing which federal laws you enforce is ok now? How about if a city or state decides it doesn't want to devote resources to gun buyer background checks?
Fed's have power on immigration. cities that do not accept ICE detainers ( no active warrants, etc) can and should be penalized.
The Democrats are too craven to do so- which leads to Trump. DC is broken into warring political camps.
Not even single issue votes can get up or down with everything on a supermajority. Dem's are obstructionist, just like Repubs.
Reid should have slipped and fallen into a coma. Then the next hack takes over as Senate leader.
DC binds itself into a straightjacket
The Democrats are too craven to do so- which leads to Trump. DC is broken into warring political camps.
Not even single issue votes can get up or down with everything on a supermajority. Dem's are obstructionist, just like Repubs.
Reid should have slipped and fallen into a coma. Then the next hack takes over as Senate leader.
DC binds itself into a straightjacket
"Being allowed to stay" as in, we know you're a rapist and murderer but welcome anyway?
cawacko
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I'm talking about the Kate Steinle murder, not this federal legislation bill. This guy had been busted multiple times trying to get into the country and had a criminal record. Why are people defending someone like him?
Darth Omar
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Anatta is one of Bernie's people who isn't afflicted with TDS [Trump derangement syndrome] lol.
He just seems that way to you because you have a terminal case of it.
Darth Omar
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Long story short: illegal immigrants are an abstraction to some people. They arent forced to live amongst them--or have their daughter murdered by one, so they're ok with advocating for other people's misery.
Also, it validates Trump's immigration rhetoric, which doesn't help matters any.