Most American Christians Believe They’re Victims of Discrimination
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Not all Christians are Talibanesque, but there are those men who preach that LBGT should be put to death, they never elaborate how that is to be done, but they do preach death the these individuals and I have no doubt that if they had the law behind them, they would be doing exactly that.
Legion Troll
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What's the difference between the beliefs of fundamentalist radical Muslims and those of fundamentalist radical Christians?
In Africa Christians are just as bloodthirsty as Islamic terrorists.
Here we keep the Jesus-jumpers in check by rule of law, and they call it "persecution".
I knew I wouldn't have to read very far before Ralph popped up on this one. Hi, Ralph.
I have some questions for you.
1: How does someone's sexual orientation harm you in any way whatsoever?
2: Since homosexuality exists in nearly every animal species alive on this planet (yes, including insects), how is it that you manage to call it "deviant perversion"?
3: If god is omnipotent and omniscient, why has it permitted homosexuality among humans or any other animal species?
4: If humans are created in god's image, how can you in good conscience and honest faith believe that anyone (who again, is created in god's image) is deviant?
5: How can you, without any sense of irony, claim that people who believe in equality for everyone are fascist when you espouse a "free society", or that oppression, hatred and bigotry reflect any kind of "moral character" other than a character that is utterly without morals?
6: How can you claim that others are fascist when you yourself wish to impose your will on those others you are naming fascist?
You need to answer those questions because everything you've said shows that you are morally bankrupt, ethically bereft and utterly unfamiliar with everything Jesus ever said.
If you can't answer those questions, you really should do some very deep and meaningful soul-searching about how much Christ would consider your views to have quite an anti-Christ bent.
And if you don't answer those questions, instead ignoring me as you have a number of times in the past when I call you on just how un-Christian you really are, you'll simply demonstrate that fact again to everyone here.
I await your response.
I have no agenda....I simply adhere to the word of God, Its none of my business if you want to personally sin. But please don't piss down my back and tell me its only rain. Queerness is natural its not a deviation of the social norms in the United States and how you wish to have sex MAKE YOU A RACE OF PEOPLES.
Do what you want....but don't expose your sexual deviation in public and then accuse others of invading YOUR PRIVACY. LMAO. The Bible says its a sin.....I will not engage in such an action no more than I would adultery, or stealing...or killing void of due process. Roll how you will.....let each work out his own salvation. All I do is show you the WORD OF GOD. Dismiss it at your own peril...not mine. Is that unambiguous enough? You might be one of the greatest people on earth...but that does not make the word of God...LIES, it makes you weak.
I didn't ask if you have an agenda, Ralph.
Okay, so you can't answer those questions, as I rather suspected, and exposed yourself on that front.
I'll tell you what. I'll narrow it down to just three questions.
1: How does anyone's sexual orientation, be they straight, homosexual or bisexual, affect you personally in any way?
2: Who are you to show anyone the "word of god" if they don't ask you to while at.the.same.time. telling others to keep themselves to themselves?
3: Following question 2, why can't you keep your religion to yourself and let others live the way they want without displaying the hatred you're displaying (because you really are showing hatred and bigotry, even though you're saying you're not: If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...).
While I'm at it...
I kiss my wife in public. I hug her. We hold hands. I tell her I love her. Is that okay in your book, because we are a heterosexual couple?
If it's okay that she and I, who love each other, freely express that love for each other in such public displays of affection, are you actually suggesting that homosexual couples should not be afforded the same ability to do so?
They are questions not worthy of answer, as I hate no one. I simply present the truth. Its your sin, not mine. Just what Have I done besides present the actual text of scripture that makes you think someone personally hates you. Hell I don't even know you nor would I know your bedroom preferences (that are protected by personal privacy) if you had not made that information PUBLIC.
You have entered the public domain with that which should remain private....deal with it....I am not going to kiss your ass because you engage in deviant sex. (You can bring your SEXUAL DESIRES into the public realm) but its fascist for me to engage my nd amendment rights of free speech? I see....nothing fascist about that at all.
So...your rights trump my nd amendment (you fill in the blanks) rights? Is that what you are suggesting....YOU ARE SPECIAL BECAUSE you "claim" to be queer? How do I know that is truth....I have witnessed no sexual actions on your part...you might be lying your ass off to gain some kind of kinky attention. Proving what? HOW YOU "CHOOSE" to get off...i.e., SEX does not make you a special race of peoples. Hell perverts have existed since the beginning of time in ALL RACES OF PEOPLES.
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Leonthecat
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Exactly.
If free to carry out all the punishments their Buy-Bull commands them to carry out, every Christians would be stoning and beheading Americans with great regularity every day .
When the law stops them from living their beloved 1st century thinking they screech that their religious freedoms are being denied.
Show us....in the New Testament of Christ Jesus were stoning or death is applicable for any kind of sin. Book, Chapter and Verse Please. Waiting with one hand......and ......in the other lets see which gets filled the quickest. There is no such passage anywhere in God's Covenant with the Gentile nations. Must you MAKE UP (lie) words (like Saul Alinsky suggested) in an attempt to fulfill an agenda? Any means to justify an end...even immorality. Really? If you are not lying....you can show me the book, chapter and verse that authorizes stoning or death for any sin by a CHRISTIAN.
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
For touching Mount Sinai
Whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death. Exodus 19:13
For taking "accursed things"
Achan ... took of the accursed thing. ... And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. ... So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger. Joshua 7:1-26
For cursing or blaspheming
And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him. Leviticus 24:16
For adultery (including urban rape victims who fail to scream loud enough)
If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her; Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city. Deuteronomy 22:23-24
For animals (like an ox that gores a human)
If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned. Exodus 21:28
For a woman who is not a virgin on her wedding night
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her ... and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: And the damsel's father shall say ... these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. ... But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die. Deuteronomy 22:13-21
For worshipping other gods
If there be found among you ... that ... hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them ... Then shalt thou ... tone them with stones, till they die. Deuteronomy 17:2-5
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers ... thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 13:5-10
For disobeying parents
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother ... Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city ... And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 21:18-21
For witches and wizards
A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them. Leviticus 20:27
For giving your children to Molech
Whosoever ... giveth any of his seed unto Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. Leviticus 20:2
For breaking the Sabbath
They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day. ... And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones.... And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses. Numbers 15:32-56
For cursing the king
Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him, that he may die. 1 Kings 21:10
And you expect others to RESPECT your deviant behavior because you are SPECIAL? OK...lets roll with that premise. I have a heart....why not issue SPECIAL PLATES stating your affliction so you can get the best parking just like all handicaps born with some kind of affliction to normalcy? You mentally believe that you are a special race of people because of the way you get off. Psychosis is a form of handicap. I'd vote for that....issuing SPECIAL WEDDING license..."this couple is homosexually married". But don't tell me I can't address your queerness ONCE YOU HAVE ENTERED THE PUBLIC DOMAIN...nor can you stop me from propagating Christianity in public, I pay taxes also, your rights end at the threshold of your suggestion that your rights trump my right of free speech. LMAO.
I reserve the right to make judgments based upon my FAITH...not your psychosis. If you fear public judgment....why enter the public domain expecting others to claim your psychosis is NORMAL or ACCEPTABLE to the majority of society? Truth is not bigoty....its just reality....face it or run from it...its you life....live it.
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Leonthecat
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And you expect others to RESPECT your deviant behavior because you are SPECIAL? OK...lets roll with that premise. I have a heart....why not issue SPECIAL PLATES stating your affliction so you can get the best parking just like all handicaps born with some kind of affliction to normalcy? You mentally believe that you are a special race of people because of the way you get off. Psychosis is a form of handicap. I'd vote for that....issuing SPECIAL WEDDING license..."this couple is homosexually married". But don't tell me I can't address your queerness ONCE YOU HAVE ENTERED THE PUBLIC DOMAIN...nor can you stop me from propagating Christianity in public, I pay taxes also, your rights end at the threshold of your suggestion that your rights trump my right of free speech. LMAO.
I reserve the right to make judgments based upon my FAITH...not your psychosis. If you fear public judgment....why enter the public domain expecting other to claim your psychosis is NORMAL or ACCEPTABLE to the majority of society?
Your "faith" is an institution of utter and complete insanity.
Ignorant...you are quoting from antiquated law written specifically for the nation of Biblical Israel.....not one verse is from God's New Testament Covenant with the Gentile nations. First you tell me the Bible is LIES...now you are attempting to act as if law from thousands of years before Christ applies to Christianity today...and its some kind of authority. Which is it....nonsense or LAW. Again....IGNORANT.
Read be enlightened. Moses directly said.....THE OLD LAW was specific for ISRAEL BC "Hear ole Israel, the statues and judgments (laws) which I speak in your hearing today (during the time of Moses not Jesus nor Rome), that YOU might learn them and observe them. The Lord our God made a covenant with us (Biblical Israel) in Horeb. THE LORD DID NOT MAKE THIS COVENANT WITH OUR FATHERS (those who proceeded that generation) BUT WITH US (BIBLICAL ISRAEL), THOSE WHO ARE HERE TODAY, ALL OF US WHO ARE HERE ALIVE. " -- Deut. 5:1-3
Clearly the law of the Israelites was never intended for any gentile, "For what (other) great nation is there that has God so near to it, as the Lord our God is to us (Israel) for whatever reason we (Israel) my call upon Him? And what great nation is there that has such great statues and righteous judgments as are in all this law which I set before you this day?" Deut. 4:7-8,
The Law of Moses was nailed to the cross of Jesus. Col. 2:13-14 We are living under the New Testament Covenant not a Jewish Covenant...but a Christian Covenant that covers both Jew and Gentile.
You are yet to present just ONE CHRISTIAN passage that authorizes stoning or death for any kind of sin to be carried out by CHRISTIANS.
As the law states. IGNORANCE IS NO EXCUSE. You attempt to accuse Christians by applying Jewish Law...mighty white of you. That would be like charging me....with a crime based upon the laws of England....pre revolutionary...pre independence.
Simply because the Bible contains ALL THE HISTORY....does not indicate that it applies today. The Bible contains the whole truth, the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. We are to rightly divide the word of truth...and it takes study not PARROTING (as you have just proved) to do that 2 Tim. 2:15
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Hating people who are gay is like hating people who are left-handed. It's senseless.
Legion Troll
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Ralphie is brainless. Why bother?
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
Not all that long ago, within my life time, the catholic church saw left handedness as the hand of Satan and nuns would smack the left hand of left handed children with a ruler, while learning to write in Catholic schools.
These barbarians were allowed to abuse innocent children in such a manner, without question.
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
He is absolutely brainless.
He now claims that the old testament is not embraced by modern Christians.
Just tune in ANY televangelist and see what a brainless liar he is.
He is amusing.
Legion Troll
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They all say that when they're cornered. They hate being exposed as the spiritual kindred of ISIS and the Taliban without the power.
They have a lot to answer for, under the banner of faith.