England secedes from EU. Why couldn't the South secede in 1861?

Bill said:
LOL, don't know him/her, but I can never understand why these ppl continue to dwell on it after all these years..
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Because southerners wont ever forget what the federal government did to their relatives and their property back then. This is why southerners and a lot of other Americans hate and mistrust the central nationalist government because of what it is capable of doing.
 
philly rabbit said:
Because southerners wont ever forget what the federal government did to their relatives and their property back then. This is why southerners and a lot of other Americans hate and mistrust the central nationalist government because of what it is capable of doing.
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Believe me if it wasn't for your desire to own other people we would be glad to be rid of you. Still.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
Get over it?? Yeah cause you know america was founded on secession and thus the South should have been allowed to secede. The constitution does not say anything about secession which means, by the tenth amendment, the states had the right to secede. The founding fathers took such a right for granted. THINK
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I have already commented once on these forums about your obvious intellectual and educational deficiencies, and yet you still seem proud of them.

There actually is a way for states to secede from the Union, you fool. If they are successful in revolution against the country (in other words, engage in traitorous behavior) or manage to obtain consent of the other 49 states, then they may secede.

The litany of backward nonsense you put forward as fact (your erroneous suggestion that the South was defending itself against aggressors when in fact it was the South which fired the first shot, for example) shows an even deeper lack of education with regard to these matters.

And finally, your inability to understand the difference between "african [sic] states seceded from the european [sic] powers they had been part of..." and "The United States of America, which has different laws and its own Constitution that does not apply to other nations" is frankly shocking in its echo-chamber sensibility.

I'd tell you to "THINK", but we all know that's not going to happen, don't we?
 
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philly rabbit said:
Because southerners wont ever forget what the federal government did to their relatives and their property back then. This is why southerners and a lot of other Americans hate and mistrust the central nationalist government because of what it is capable of doing.
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Being perpetually bitter is not going to change anything...

Eventually the south will fill w/ ppl from the north, west & around the world & the bitterness will be forgotten..
 
Bill said:
Being perpetually bitter is not going to change anything...

Eventually the south will fill w/ ppl from the north, west & around the world & the bitterness will be forgotten..
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You can't brainwash people through your educational system. Southerners wont forget. Nor will I forget.

What the government did to them was an abomination that resulted in the deaths of over a million people. Trying to justify that type of carnage as an effort to free slaves is history's biggest straw man.
 
Bill said:
After the Revolutionary War, South Carolina became the eighth state to join the United States on May 23, 1788. The first capital was Charleston, but the capital was moved Columbia in 1790 in order to be located near the center of the state.

Read more at: http://www.ducksters.com/geography/us_states/south_carolina_history.php
This text is Copyright © Ducksters. Do not use without permission.
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Why are you giving me a history lesson? South Carolina left the union and the federal fort was on their territory
 
Bill said:
Being perpetually bitter is not going to change anything...

Eventually the south will fill w/ ppl from the north, west & around the world & the bitterness will be forgotten..
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But not the stupidity and incompetence.

Remind me, who was the last southern president the USA elected?
 
Stelakh said:
I have already commented once on these forums about your obvious intellectual and educational deficiencies, and yet you still seem proud of them.

There actually is a way for states to secede from the Union, you fool. If they are successful in revolution against the country (in other words, engage in traitorous behavior) or manage to obtain consent of the other 49 states, then they may secede.

The litany of backward nonsense you put forward as fact (your erroneous suggestion that the South was defending itself against aggressors when in fact it was the South which fired the first shot, for example) shows an even deeper lack of education with regard to these matters.

And finally, your inability to understand the difference between "african [sic] states seceded from the european [sic] powers they had been part of..." and "The United States of America, which has different laws and its own Constitution that does not apply to other nations" is frankly shocking in its echo-chamber sensibility.

I'd tell you to "THINK", but we all know that's not going to happen, don't we?
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HAHAHA. As usual, all you have is namecalling. Thanks for admitting i'm right.
 
philly rabbit said:
Why are you giving me a history lesson? South Carolina left the union and the federal fort was on their territory
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You seemed to be in need of a lesson..

They say bitterness is best enjoyed w/ a little whine, hopefully you have had your fill...

Have a nice day Phil....:)
 
Bill said:
You seemed to be in need of a lesson..

They say bitterness is best enjoyed w/ a little whine, hopefully you have had your fill...

Have a nice day Phil....:)
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What kind of a response is this? SC was out of the union and the fort was in their territory. You want to dispute this?
 
Establishment said:
Why are you so fucking retarded?
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You need to find out who your real father is/was, punk. Your football shirt will never tell you, it's up to you to do the leg work.

You're a punk .. a mind murdering cultural bigot. A feminist muff diving, Woodstock generational mishap.

Totally morally bankrupt .. look at your friends list .. it says it all.
 
Legion Troll said:
But not the stupidity and incompetence.

Remind me, who was the last southern president the USA elected?
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Nine of the first twelve U.S. presidents were southerners .. you piece of shit leftist troll. Southerners won the war for american independence.

What have you ever won .. troll? A life like figurine of thee dee?
 
thilly wabbit said:
Nine of the first twelve U.S. presidents were southerners .. you piece of shit leftist troll. Southerners won the war for american independence. What have you ever won .. troll? A life like figurine of thee dee?
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The French won the war for American independence.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
HAHAHA. As usual, all you have is namecalling. Thanks for admitting i'm right.
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Actually, you're wrong. You're simply, stupidly, wrong.

It's just that intellectual deficiency you've got going on that makes you believe differently.

But keep trying. Dealing with you is like shooting fish in a Pilsner glass.
 
philly rabbit said:
Why are you giving me a history lesson? South Carolina left the union and the federal fort was on their territory
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Yeah, no, it didn't.

South Carolina voted internally to leave the United States of America, but there were only two ways out.

1: Get the rest of the states to approve their departure, which they did not do.

2: Engage in a treasonous war of aggression against the country they were trying to leave, which they did.

But they lost, so while they did succeed in being anti-American, unpatriotic, seditionists who should Every.Single.One. have been hanged for high treason, they did not succeed in leaving the Union.

Which makes you wrong.

Again.

Clearly, Bill was giving you a history lesson because you bloody well need it.
 
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