Muslim "apologists" and the Reichstag fire

Thing1 said:
No, dummy. You said 50% of the world's Muslims. Then, as "backup", you post a flawed poll of only a few 3rd world countries.

You either lied, can't read, or you're just stupid.
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How did I lie? or not comprehend what you were saying? How am I stupid? My poll contains 50% of all muslims in the world.

how does that make it flawed? It's a poll of literally 50% of the world's muslims. It doesn't matter if it's "only" 3rd world countries. Afghanistan was (and is) a 3rd world country. How'd that work out for us?

3rd world muslims ARE muslims you fucking neanderthal. You don't get to discount them because you don't like what they are saying.
 
Immolate said:
How did I lie? or not comprehend what you were saying? How am I stupid? My poll contains 50% of all muslims in the world.

how does that make it flawed? It's a poll of literally 50% of the world's muslims. It doesn't matter if it's "only" 3rd world countries. Afghanistan was (and is) a 3rd world country. How'd that work out for us?

3rd world muslims ARE muslims you fucking neanderthal. You don't get to discount them because you don't like what they are saying.
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You said 50% of the world's Muslims supported death for apostasy.

In order for that to be correct, it would have to be 100% of the respondents in a poll of 50% of the world's Muslims.

Math.
 
Thing1 said:
You said 50% of the world's Muslims supported death for apostasy.

In order for that to be correct, it would have to be 100% of the respondents in a poll of 50% of the world's Muslims.

Math.
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have you ever heard of extrapolation?

when you have a sample size of 600 million of which 50% believe something, you might want to listen to that suggestion. As noted in my poll, many other third world nations were not included, which would increase that % even more. There aren't nearly as many muslims in 1st world countries. Lastly, what would be your ultimate point? Lets assume that out of the other 50%, 0% of respondents believe in death for apostasy. (Which wouldn't be true). The absolute best case scenario for your argument then would be that "only" 25% of all muslims worldwide believe you should be put to death.

My conclusion summed it up thusly:

at least 20% of all muslims world wide, being completely intolerant in their view of religion. They believe you should be put to death if you leave the faith. If we were to look at some of the other countries listed above, this number may even be higher, and probably closer to 30-35%.
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So I even accounted for that in my copypasta. You are being ridiculously pedantic. The bottom line is violent muslims are not an infinitesimal minority as your feels would like you to believe. They are a sizeable portion of all muslims in the world. There is nothing you can do about it, it's their own words. Tough shit for you.
 
Immolate said:
have you ever heard of extrapolation?

when you have a sample size of 600 million of which 50% believe something, you might want to listen to that suggestion. As noted in my poll, many other third world nations were not included, which would increase that % even more. There aren't nearly as many muslims in 1st world countries. Lastly, what would be your ultimate point? Lets assume that out of the other 50%, 0% of respondents believe in death for apostasy. (Which wouldn't be true). The absolute best case scenario for your argument then would be that "only" 25% of all muslims worldwide believe you should be put to death.

My conclusion summed it up thusly:

So I even accounted for that in my copypasta. You are being ridiculously pedantic. The bottom line is violent muslims are not an infinitesimal minority as your feels would like you to believe. They are a sizeable portion of all muslims in the world. There is nothing you can do about it, it's their own words. Tough shit for you.
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Your "extrapolation" takes the % of Muslims in 3rd world countries to the rest of the civilized world?

Do you believe that 50% of American Muslims support death for apostasy?
 
Thing1 said:
I'm judging those people individually. They individually choose to support a fraud & con man - so, that support says something about them.
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As every Hillary supporter individually chooses to back a proven liar that is every bit as egotistical as Trump....a fraud and con women....

As every Muslim chooses to be a Muslim....a religion that cuts off body parts and lashes people as punishment on a regular basis....enslaves women.....does not tolerate homos...
marries (rapes) children .....kills non believers....stones people to death....etc....

They belong to a religion and a culture that is incompatible with modern western civilization .....
 
NOVA said:
As every Muslim chooses to be a Muslim....a religion that cuts off body parts and lashes people as punishment on a regular basis....enslaves women.....does not tolerate homos...
marries (rapes) children .....kills non believers....stones people to death....etc....

They belong to a religion and a culture that is incompatible with modern western civilization .....
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Then why do so many of them live peacefully in Western society?
 
does not tolerate homos
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Amazing how lacking in self-awareness these righties can be. The murderer was an American, born and bred. IF he developed radical Muslim leanings, he first learned how to be a violent, wife-beating, anti-gay, gun-toting maniac right here in the good ole US of A. And his anti-gay beliefs cannot be laid at the feet of Islam, not when he grew up here, where we have our very own homegrown gay bashing idiots. When you use language like that, in a derogatory context, you're part of the hate culture. And you own your very own little piece of this.

Yes, it's true that Muslim religious fundamentalists hate gays. So did the guy who Ted Cruz allowed to speak at one of his rallies, who advocated death for homosexuals.

I consider this a hate crime. And I think we narrowly escaped making it two mass hate crimes today, when police caught the Indiana guy before he made it to the LA Pride event. Think about that the next time you want to make a hateful slur towards the LGBT community. You swim in the same waters you slime.
 
Thing1 said:
Your "extrapolation" takes the % of Muslims in 3rd world countries to the rest of the civilized world?

Do you believe that 50% of American Muslims support death for apostasy?
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Seems like 99 % of Muslims don't believe in 'apostasy' in the first place.

If they renounce the Islamic religion they might just as well be committing suicide
 
Thing1 said:
Your "extrapolation" takes the % of Muslims in 3rd world countries to the rest of the civilized world?

Do you believe that 50% of American Muslims support death for apostasy?
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no. as you can see in my conclusion I put the number around 30%.

edit: i mean worldwide.

I dont know what the number for American muslims would be. It would likely be lowish. If you would just stop kneejerking whenever I post, you would have seen that in my posts. My concern is about all muslims worldwide.
 
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Immolate said:
no. as you can see in my conclusion I put the number around 30%.

edit: i mean worldwide.

I dont know what the number for American muslims would be. It would likely be lowish. If you would just stop kneejerking whenever I post, you would have seen that in my posts. My concern is about all muslims worldwide.
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Let's look at the US numbers. Muslims are a slim minority. I'm gonna be generous and put it at 5% of the population. Yet in the past six months they're responsible for two very significant shootings---and the latest one broke the record.
 
Darla said:
Amazing how lacking in self-awareness these righties can be. The murderer was an American, born and bred. IF he developed radical Muslim leanings, he first learned how to be a violent, wife-beating, anti-gay, gun-toting maniac right here in the good ole US of A. And his anti-gay beliefs cannot be laid at the feet of Islam, not when he grew up here, where we have our very own homegrown gay bashing idiots. When you use language like that, in a derogatory context, you're part of the hate culture. And you own your very own little piece of this.

Yes, it's true that Muslim religious fundamentalists hate gays. So did the guy who Ted Cruz allowed to speak at one of his rallies, who advocated death for homosexuals.

I consider this a hate crime. And I think we narrowly escaped making it two mass hate crimes today, when police caught the Indiana guy before he made it to the LA Pride event. Think about that the next time you want to make a hateful slur towards the LGBT community. You swim in the same waters you slime.
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The post obviously had nothing to do with the Orlando shooting, San Bernardino attack, or any particular terrorist attack....it is a general statement on the Muslim culture and
Islamic treatment of their own citizens....compared to western culture....
what they do in the US is another subject...

Its irrelevant what color they are.
Its irrelevant what country they are born in.
Its irrelevant what country they are citizens of.
Its irrelevant what country they were raised in, and
its irrelevant where they were first radicalized.....

the common denominator is that they are Muslim.
 
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tsuke said:
The only way this ends is if the nonviolent ones feel the violent ones are causing so much damage to their reputation that they actively disavow them. Im not talking about a condemnation or two. Im talking about them giving up the violent ones. The only way they are effective is because they are able to hide in the crowd of the non violent ones remove that by alienating them from each other and making the non violent ones hate the violent ones.

Bush and Obama both tried the carrot. It wasnt the muslims fault only extremists etc etc. Yet we have more attacks now than ever. Time for the stick.
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The stick? You mean sending Americans off to war?
 
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