FINALLY...Justice!
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Troll, you are very stupid.
WHAT IS A RESERVE DEPUTY SHERIFF?
Reserve Deputy Sheriffs are utilized to supplement the Sheriff’s Office law enforcement manpower. Like Full-time Deputies, Reserve
Deputies are professionally trained and duly sworn law enforcement personnel. In most cases, Reserves are assigned to the same
duties as Full-time Deputies. Since Reserve Deputies have the same powers of arrest as Full-time Deputies, they are required by law to
meet the same hiring, background, medical and psychological standards as Full-time Deputies.
https://www.oklahomacounty.org/sheriff/fieldservices/reserveapp.pdf
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Did I say it was? Why are you being a smartass about this? It is a real issue among law enforcement. You obviously don't care about those lives because you care more about your ego. You're just pissy because I was right about the SF shooting and you were the one confused. I bet you also didn't think I would find any other examples of this and now that I have you have to be snarky.
SmarterthanYou
rebel
so to your mind, it's more important to let cops kill people unnecessarily, than it is to restrict their power over us?
SmarterthanYou
rebel
zappa is just defending his peace keepers because he thinks their job is to kill uppity citizens who become unruly and won't submit to being a slave.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Deputy Reservists 'Pay to Play' Cop — and Not Just in Oklahoma
What do rapper Kid Rock, basketball legend Shaquille O'Neal, and Hollywood one-man-army Steven Seagal have in common, apart from their striking goatees? They're among a growing number of wealthy celebrities, entrepreneurs, and executives signing up for the chance to tote real badges and guns as deputy reservists at local police departments around the country.
Would you trust any one of them to defend your rights or to follow proper protocol in a life or death situation? These are questions that are once again being asked in recent weeks after a white millionaire insurance executive attached to the reserve contingent of Tulsa County Sheriff's Office fatally shot an unarmed black suspect in Oklahoma, claiming to mistake his firearm for a Taser.
Robert Bates, 73, who has been charged with the second-degree manslaughter of Eric Harris, 44, during an undercover operation on April 2, was a reservist deputy serving on the sheriff's Violent Crime Task Force. He had reportedly paid handsomely for the privilege, donating cars and thousands of dollars in other equipment to the department since joining in 2007.
In a video of the fatal shooting, Bates, who says he mistakenly fired his service weapon instead of his stun gun, can be heard crying, "I shot him! I'm sorry!" The insurance company owner has since been released on $25,000 bail and told CNN on Friday that he regrets the incident, but said, "It can happen to anyone."
In the interview, Bates, a longtime friend and former campaign donor to Tulsa's sheriff, Stanley Glanz, also denied allegations that he did not complete the required 480 hours of training and firearms certification that qualified him to serve as an advanced reservist — the highest rank among Tulsa's auxiliary forces — that essentially allowed him to carry out the same duties as any regular deputy.
The sheriff's department on Friday deflected the same allegations unnamed sources made to the Tulsa World newspaper, saying it had yet to locate Bates's training records, but that the sheriff has the right to waive any department requirements and policies, and there was a possibility that this occurred in this instance.
"The media outlet that is putting this information out is using unconfirmed and unidentified sources and also relying on anonymity," said Major Shannon Clark, spokesman for the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office. "We don't respond to rumor."
The case appears to highlight the disquieting precept that money really can buy anything, including the right to allegedly sidestep mandatory law enforcement training at the potential risk of human life. It could not have come at a worse time, as departments around the country weather fierce criticism over systemic and pervasive policing culture that incubates perceptions among its police officers that racial bias and excessive use of force is acceptable and even sanctioned.
https://news.vice.com/article/deputy-reservists-pay-to-play-cop-and-not-just-in-oklahoma
What do rapper Kid Rock, basketball legend Shaquille O'Neal, and Hollywood one-man-army Steven Seagal have in common, apart from their striking goatees? They're among a growing number of wealthy celebrities, entrepreneurs, and executives signing up for the chance to tote real badges and guns as deputy reservists at local police departments around the country.
Would you trust any one of them to defend your rights or to follow proper protocol in a life or death situation? These are questions that are once again being asked in recent weeks after a white millionaire insurance executive attached to the reserve contingent of Tulsa County Sheriff's Office fatally shot an unarmed black suspect in Oklahoma, claiming to mistake his firearm for a Taser.
Robert Bates, 73, who has been charged with the second-degree manslaughter of Eric Harris, 44, during an undercover operation on April 2, was a reservist deputy serving on the sheriff's Violent Crime Task Force. He had reportedly paid handsomely for the privilege, donating cars and thousands of dollars in other equipment to the department since joining in 2007.
In a video of the fatal shooting, Bates, who says he mistakenly fired his service weapon instead of his stun gun, can be heard crying, "I shot him! I'm sorry!" The insurance company owner has since been released on $25,000 bail and told CNN on Friday that he regrets the incident, but said, "It can happen to anyone."
In the interview, Bates, a longtime friend and former campaign donor to Tulsa's sheriff, Stanley Glanz, also denied allegations that he did not complete the required 480 hours of training and firearms certification that qualified him to serve as an advanced reservist — the highest rank among Tulsa's auxiliary forces — that essentially allowed him to carry out the same duties as any regular deputy.
The sheriff's department on Friday deflected the same allegations unnamed sources made to the Tulsa World newspaper, saying it had yet to locate Bates's training records, but that the sheriff has the right to waive any department requirements and policies, and there was a possibility that this occurred in this instance.
"The media outlet that is putting this information out is using unconfirmed and unidentified sources and also relying on anonymity," said Major Shannon Clark, spokesman for the Tulsa County Sheriff's Office. "We don't respond to rumor."
The case appears to highlight the disquieting precept that money really can buy anything, including the right to allegedly sidestep mandatory law enforcement training at the potential risk of human life. It could not have come at a worse time, as departments around the country weather fierce criticism over systemic and pervasive policing culture that incubates perceptions among its police officers that racial bias and excessive use of force is acceptable and even sanctioned.
https://news.vice.com/article/deputy-reservists-pay-to-play-cop-and-not-just-in-oklahoma
SmarterthanYou
rebel
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/cour...cle_ad0457b1-4ac5-59c8-92db-89e4fdea34a6.html
so there will be ZERO accountability for Glanz' complicity in the murder that Bates committed.
so there will be ZERO accountability for Glanz' complicity in the murder that Bates committed.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
9 cases in 11 years does NOT make this "an issue" for the police.
No, you're just trying to justify the ignorance of the "deputy" in the OP.
Old rich dummies shouldn't be allowed to "play cop"...this time it got an innocent man killed.
How many times has that happened in 11 years, with a reserve deputy? I bet it is less than 11 and yet you are making a big deal out of it. Even experts say it is an issue, but of course you know better just like you know what race Marco but can't be bothered to say which race.
Where have I tried to justify what the deputy did. And, by the way, under OK law he is in fact considered deputy, so not sure why you put that in quotes.
Old liberal dummies like you find it easy to play armchair warrior thinking you would do better when you have no experience.
One of the possible scenarios expressed by those who have observed the video of the New Year’s Day shooting on Bay Area Rapid Transit (BART) in Oakland, Calif. is that the officer intended to use his TASER and mistakenly grabbed his firearm. This is altogether possible, and we have written about similar tragedies in the past.
How this could happen is truly at the root of what we understand about human mistakes. For example, we have learned that the disruption of a motor program to a high level can cause us to make mistakes. James Reason in his book, Human Error, explains how this occurs and calls these errors "double-capture slips." In the BART video, we see the officer who is straddling the subject who is ultimately killed reach for his TASER, then drop his hand to the subject in what appears to be a controlling movement. So the officer appeared to initiate the motor program to draw the TASER and was then interrupted. He then rises and draws his firearm and moments later fires into the back of the struggling subject.
https://www.policeone.com/officer-s...ART-shooting-raises-issue-of-TASER-confusion/
How this could happen is truly at the root of what we understand about human mistakes. For example, we have learned that the disruption of a motor program to a high level can cause us to make mistakes. James Reason in his book, Human Error, explains how this occurs and calls these errors "double-capture slips." In the BART video, we see the officer who is straddling the subject who is ultimately killed reach for his TASER, then drop his hand to the subject in what appears to be a controlling movement. So the officer appeared to initiate the motor program to draw the TASER and was then interrupted. He then rises and draws his firearm and moments later fires into the back of the struggling subject.
https://www.policeone.com/officer-s...ART-shooting-raises-issue-of-TASER-confusion/
Still, many reserve officers have been hailed as heroes. A number of them have paid with their lives. Others have taken lives.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-reserve-cop-who-mistook-his-gun-for-a-taser/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-reserve-cop-who-mistook-his-gun-for-a-taser/
Legion Troll
A fine upstanding poster
Hilarious that some would try to use a different county's website as a source, instead of the actual county where Master Bates was a volunteer.
http://www.tcso.org/tcsoweb/reserves.aspx
christiefan915
Catalyst
Anybody ever notice how jerks like this are always "in failing health" when it's time to lay on the punishment? What's he doing, running around with a gun and playing deputy if his health is so bad?
Ever think this incident caused his health problems you insufferable shit?
USFREEDOM911
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Would that be like liberals referring to thugs as "gentle giants" and using pictures of others when they WERE 12?