Lake Mead drops to record low; Mexico is guaranteed water by treaty

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Extended droughts has shrunk the country's largest reservoir to an all-time low, and leaders in the West's water planning say the area's water users must shift how they view their most valuable resource.

Lake Mead, hemmed in by the Hoover Dam, is the largest manmade reservoir in the United States and supplies water to California, Nevada, and Arizona.

The drop from 1,220 feet above sea level – which is considered full – to 1,074 feet is a record low, and officials want the water level pushed well over 1,075 feet above sea level.

If it remains below that elevation by the end of the year, Arizona and Nevada are forced by treaty to cut their water allocation.




http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2016/0521/Lake-Mead-drops-to-record-low-What-now
 
Speaking of water, Trump doesn't understand how water issues play into his plans to build a wall.

"As the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, Trump has proposed to build a wall along a large part of the U.S.-Mexico border. He says he will compel Mexico to pay for it. The Trump campaign writes in its wall proposal: “We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again.”

But immigration is just one issue tied to the Mexican border. The other fraught border issue is water. And it turns out water treaties between Mexico and the U.S. could actually complicate Trump’s plans to build a wall.

“In some places, treaty obligations and river flood zones would require the wall be built well into the United States, which would be awkward if the Mexican government is paying for it and overseeing the project. In addition to creating a no man's land between the wall and the actual border, one government or the other would have to buy large amounts of private property as well as land owned by at least one Indian tribe whose territory straddles the border in southern Arizona,” the Associated Press reported.

As the San Antonio Express-News put it in a recent editorial: “Psst, Trump: Did you know that treaties with Mexico prevent it or the U.S. from building within the river’s flood plains and that, in Texas, most land along the border is privately owned? Take them through eminent domain?”

http://www.wateronline.com/doc/donald-trump-quiet-on-water-issues-with-mexican-border-plan-0001
 
Teflon Don Trump also doesn't seem to know that Mexico is guaranteed 1/3 of the water by treaty.

Maybe he thinks he can "renegotiate"...
 
As the levels of Lake Mead continue to fall, the odds are increasing for the federal government to declare a shortage in 2018, a step that would trigger cutbacks in the amounts flowing from the reservoir to Arizona and Nevada. With that threshold looming, political pressures are building for California, Arizona and Nevada to reach an agreement to share in the cutbacks in order to avert an even more severe shortage. “This problem is not going away and it is likely to get worse, perhaps far worse, as climate change unfolds,” said Brad Udall, a senior water and climate research scientist at Colorado State University.

“Unprecedented high temperatures in the basin are causing the flow of the river to decline. The good news is that we have time and the smarts to manage this, if all the states work together.” Interior Secretary Sally Jewell has said she is optimistic about the talks, calling the over-allocation of the river a shared problem that must be solved. During a May 4 visit to Southern California, she said that there has been “extraordinary collaboration” between the states in working toward a deal, and that the United States and Mexico have also been making progress in negotiations on a new accord to share water from the Colorado River.

http://www.desertsun.com/story/news...9/lake-mead-declines-new-record-low/84597120/
 
Do Trumpkins know about our water-sharing treaty with Mexico?

A 1944 water treaty requires that Mexico receive two-thirds of the water from the Rio Grande’s tributaries, and the U.S. has a claim on the rest. Under the terms of a treaty, "the United States is obliged to give Mexico water from the Colorado River," The Washington Post reported.


http://www.wateronline.com/doc/donald-trump-quiet-on-water-issues-with-mexican-border-plan-0001
 
Legion Troll said:
Do Trumpkins know about our water-sharing treaty with Mexico?

A 1944 water treaty requires that Mexico receive two-thirds of the water from the Rio Grande’s tributaries, and the U.S. has a claim on the rest. Under the terms of a treaty, "the United States is obliged to give Mexico water from the Colorado River," The Washington Post reported.

http://www.wateronline.com/doc/donald-trump-quiet-on-water-issues-with-mexican-border-plan-0001
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Well Trump is pretty ignorant about a lot of our foreign affairs and the Trumpkins take everything he says as gospel, so....
 
Legion Troll said:
Teflon Don Trump also doesn't seem to know that Mexico is guaranteed 1/3 of the water by treaty.

Maybe he thinks he can "renegotiate"...
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this is pretty much what you do with treaties when it is not working out for you anymore.

They are not permanent.
 
Leonthecat said:
Aren't treaties designed to "work out" for both parties as a compromise?
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when you initially sign them? Yes. Otherwise one of the two parties will not accept it. What works out for you now may not work out for you 50 years from now or even 5 years from now hence you renegotiate.

Are you guys proposing that once we have a treaty it is permanent and we cannot take another look at it in the future?
 
tsuke said:
when you initially sign them? Yes. Otherwise one of the two parties will not accept it. What works out for you now may not work out for you 50 years from now or even 5 years from now hence you renegotiate.

Are you guys proposing that once we have a treaty it is permanent and we cannot take another look at it in the future?
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Have you looked at what is on the other side of that treaty?
http://www.ibwc.state.gov/Treaties_Minutes/treaties.html
 
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