Racism: Failing now, failing tomorrow, failing forever

christiefan915 said:
WASHINGTON — Poor, black and Hispanic children are becoming increasingly isolated from their white, affluent peers in the nation’s public schools, according to new federal data showing that the number of high-poverty schools serving primarily black and brown students more than doubled between 2001 and 2014. The data was released by the Government Accountability Office on Tuesday, 62 years to the day after the Supreme Court decided that segregated schools are “inherently unequal” and therefore unconstitutional.

That landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education began the dismantling of the dual school systems — one for white kids, one for black students — that characterized so many of the nation’s communities. It also became a touchstone for the ideal of public education as a great equalizer, an American birthright meant to give every child a fair shot at success.
But that ideal appears to be unraveling, according to Tuesday’s GAO report.

The proportion of schools segregated by race and class — where more than 75 percent of children receive free or reduced-price lunch and more than 75 percent are black or Hispanic — climbed from 9 percent to 16 percent of schools between 2001 and 2014. The number of the most intensively segregated schools — with more than 90 percent of low-income students and students of color — more than doubled over that period. The problem is not just that students are more isolated, according to the GAO, but that minority students who are concentrated in high-poverty schools don’t have the same access to opportunities as students in other schools.

High-poverty, majority-black and Hispanic schools were less likely to offer a full range of math and science courses than other schools, for example, and more likely to use expulsion and suspension as disciplinary tools, according to the GAO.

http://www.bendbulletin.com/nation/4336204-151/report-segregated-schools-are-back-and-failing-again
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Ok...what does this have to do with racism? There wasn't a thing said in this article that isn't also true of the far less affluent, predominately white, rural small town I grew up in and thousand of small towns like them throughout the country.
 
cawacko said:
Is this just racism? I live in one of the most liberal areas of the country and I can't recall hearing one parent say I'd like to send my child to a low scoring school if they have other options.
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i grew up in a small town. Options? WTF. Options are for the affluent. You don't have "options" in small towns for education unless no education is an option. You either have the resources and the community commitment to make your public school work or you're simply fucked. That's about your only practical option in small towns, unless your family is affluent.

That's largely true in urban areas, school choice is mainly for the affluent. School choice? That's certainly available here in Dublin but not exactly an option if you live in the bottoms, the southwest district or the east end. Your only choice is the school in the neighborhood you can afford to live in.

That's why I challenged Christie's OP title. This isn't about race. It's about economics and poverty.

I mean this choice stuff is mostly out of touch nonsense. Yeah it's a great concept if your family is wealthy enough to send you to Columbus Christian Day Acadamy and USC but for most of us who grew up working class the only "choice" you have is your local public school and good ole State U but only if your lucky enough to live near one and the local village High had the resources to actually prepare you.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
i grew up in a small town. Options? WTF. Options are for the affluent. You don't have "options" in small towns for education unless no education is an option. You either have the resources and the community commitment to make your public school work or you're simply fucked. That's about your only practical option in small towns, unless your family is affluent.

That's largely true in urban areas, school choice is mainly for the affluent. School choice? That's certainly available here in Dublin but not exactly an option if you live in the bottoms, the southwest district or the east end. Your only choice is the school in the neighborhood you can afford to live in.

That's why I challenged Christie's OP title. This isn't about race. It's about economics and poverty.

I mean this choice stuff is mostly out of touch nonsense. Yeah it's a great concept if your family is wealthy enough to send you to Columbus Christian Day Acadamy and USC but for most of us who grew up working class the only "choice" you have is your local public school and good ole State U but only if your lucky enough to live near one and the local village High had the resources to actually prepare you.
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christiefan915 said:
"The proportion of schools segregated by race and class — where more than 75 percent of children receive free or reduced-price lunch and more than 75 percent are black or Hispanic — climbed from 9 percent to 16 percent of schools between 2001 and 2014."
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And what are those numbers when you add rural and small town white kids? Does the author believe that only people who live in urban areas count?
 
cawacko said:
Is that racism? You just said no one wants to send their child to a poor school if they don't have to. How many white or Asian families do you know that purposefully move to a poorer area to send their child to a lessor performing school?
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Again a colossally naive question. The vast majority of people don't have much in the way of choice when it comes to education.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
i grew up in a small town. Options? WTF. Options are for the affluent. You don't have "options" in small towns for education unless no education is an option. You either have the resources and the community commitment to make your public school work or you're simply fucked. That's about your only practical option in small towns, unless your family is affluent.

That's largely true in urban areas, school choice is mainly for the affluent. School choice? That's certainly available here in Dublin but not exactly an option if you live in the bottoms, the southwest district or the east end. Your only choice is the school in the neighborhood you can afford to live in.

That's why I challenged Christie's OP title. This isn't about race. It's about economics and poverty.

I mean this choice stuff is mostly out of touch nonsense. Yeah it's a great concept if your family is wealthy enough to send you to Columbus Christian Day Acadamy and USC but for most of us who grew up working class the only "choice" you have is your local public school and good ole State U but only if your lucky enough to live near one and the local village High had the resources to actually prepare you.
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In a certain sense, why should wealth matter with schools and schooling? In the past, plenty of highly educated people started out in one room school houses that would be deemed impoverished by our standards.
 
Traitor Darth Hussein Omar said:
In a certain sense, why should wealth matter with schools and schooling? In the past, plenty of highly educated people started out in one room school houses that would be deemed impoverished by our standards.
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If it was good enough for grandpappy (who was white, I presume), it's good enough for Shaquille and Hernando?
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Ok...what does this have to do with racism? There wasn't a thing said in this article that isn't also true of the far less affluent, predominately white, rural small town I grew up in and thousand of small towns like them throughout the country.
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Because lil' Mott was dumb and white, it's OK to let today's kids who aren't white suffer in segregated schools?

Maybe you yahoos should have read more:


The resegregation of schools during the past two decades has for the most part happened quietly, in the shadows of loud battles over standardized testing, teacher evaluations, charter schools and Common Core academic standards.

Segregation has returned to the forefront of education policy discussions only recently, amid broad public debates about race, racism and widening inequality.

The persistence of racial divisions in the nation’s public schools was underscored Friday when a federal judge ordered a Mississippi district to integrate its middle and high schools, capping a legal battle that had dragged on for five decades.

As the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Mississippi put it, Cleveland, Mississippi — a town of 12,000 bisected by railroad tracks that divided white families from black — has been running an illegal dual system for its children, failing year after year to reach the “greatest degree of desegregation possible.”

Now Cleveland must consolidate its schools, integrating all its students into one middle school and one high school.

“The delay in desegregation has deprived generations of students of the constitutionally-guaranteed right of an integrated education,” Judge Debra Brown wrote in her decision.

The Rev. Edward Duvall, an African American parent of two children in Cleveland’s public schools, said he favored consolidation because it would save money, leaving more funding for classrooms and programs. But that wasn’t the only reason: “We can break down this wall of racism that divides us and keeps us separated,” he said, according to court documents. “And we could create a new culture in our school system that’s going to unite us and unite our whole city.”

While schools in Cleveland have never fully desegregated, many other school districts did integrate following the decision in Brown v. Board. But since the 1990s, hundreds of school districts have been released from court-ordered desegregation plans, making way for renewed divisions by race and class.

In 1972, just 25 percent of black students in the South attended the most segregated schools, in which more than 90 percent of students were minorities, according to a 2014 ProPublica investigation. But in districts that emerged from court oversight between 1990 and 2011, more than half of students now attend such segregated schools, ProPublica found.

The investigation found fault with a Justice Department that, starting with the Reagan administration, pulled back from pressuring districts on desegregation and was “no longer committed to fighting for the civil-rights aims it had once championed.”

At the same time as federal courts were relinquishing oversight of school desegregation, the nation’s overall student population was changing, becoming poorer and less white. More than half of students are now low income, as measured by eligibility for subsidized meals. Hispanic students have replaced black students as the largest minority group in schools, accounting for 25 percent of the overall student population.

But the growing number of minority and low-income children in the nation’s schools does not mean that their segregation is inevitable, or that they are doomed to receive fewer opportunities in school, Education Secretary John King said. Just weeks after assuming the helm of the U.S. Education Department in January, King began calling on communities to find ways to diversify their schools. He was even more pointed this month, speaking of a “systematic lack of investment in high-needs communities and high-needs kids” that is made possible by policy choices that create segregated housing and segregated schools.

On Tuesday, he said the GAO report shows the need for a proposed new regulation that would change the way schools prove they are providing adequate resources for needy students. GOP leaders and school superintendents have criticized King sharply for the proposal, accusing him of an illegal overreach.


http://www.bendbulletin.com/nation/4336204-151/report-segregated-schools-are-back-and-failing-again#
 
Milagro said:
Maybe if you got pissed and had some sex occasionally you wouldn't spend so much time on here being such a nasty cunt!!

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Haha! He really is on here almost 24/7 isn't he? Pretty pathetic.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
i grew up in a small town. Options? WTF. Options are for the affluent. You don't have "options" in small towns for education unless no education is an option. You either have the resources and the community commitment to make your public school work or you're simply fucked. That's about your only practical option in small towns, unless your family is affluent.

That's largely true in urban areas, school choice is mainly for the affluent. School choice? That's certainly available here in Dublin but not exactly an option if you live in the bottoms, the southwest district or the east end. Your only choice is the school in the neighborhood you can afford to live in.

That's why I challenged Christie's OP title. This isn't about race. It's about economics and poverty.

I mean this choice stuff is mostly out of touch nonsense. Yeah it's a great concept if your family is wealthy enough to send you to Columbus Christian Day Acadamy and USC but for most of us who grew up working class the only "choice" you have is your local public school and good ole State U but only if your lucky enough to live near one and the local village High had the resources to actually prepare you.
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I assume this is your way of agreeing with me or saying we are on the same page.
 
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