5 Government-Sanctioned Ways America Still Honors the Confederacy

Mott the Hoople said:
Most of us just laugh. Nothing says "I'm a mouth breather" like flying the confederate flag.
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Conservative65 claimed to have three degrees. Do you think his "diplomas" all look like this?

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Legion Troll said:
The home of a traitor, used by the federal government to inter men killed by treasonous Confederates.

In May 1864, Union forces suffered large numbers of dead in the Battle of the Wilderness. Quartermaster General Montgomery C. Meigs ordered that an examination of eligible sites be made for the establishment for a large new national military cemetery. Within weeks, his staff reported that Arlington Estate was the most suitable property in the area.

The property was high and free from floods (which might unearth graves), it had a view of the District of Columbia, and it was aesthetically pleasing. It was also the home of the leader of the armed forces of the Confederate States of America, and denying Robert E. Lee use of his home after the war was a valuable political consideration.

The first military burial at Arlington William Henry Christman was made on May 13, 1864.

The first African-American to be buried there was William H. Johnson, an employee of President Lincoln. Lincoln arranged for him to be buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Lincoln had Johnson's name engraved on the tombstone, alongside the word "Citizen."

The southern portion of the land now occupied by the cemetery was used during and after the Civil War as a settlement for freed slaves. More than 1,100 freed slaves were given land at Freedman's Village by the government, where they farmed and lived during and after the Civil War.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlington_National_Cemetery

The penalty for treason is death. Lee and all his fellow traitors to our nation should have been tried, convicted, and executed, and their filthy corpses fed to pigs.
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"The penalty". No wonder you never answer questions because you don't know squat. Death is not the only penalty for treason.
 
anatta said:
Abraham Lincoln disagreed with this sentiment...as president of these United States, I'll go with Lincolns evaluation.
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Why weren't they tried?

Tell me why Jefferson Davis never got his day in court after sitting in a dimly lit prison cell for two years.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
So, the matter was settled 150 years ago. Why the frick are people arging about it now?
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Because they are angry that more southerners weren't slaughtered and the race and the culture wasn't exterminated from the face of the earth.

These are collectivist leftists and the South's state sovereignty was counter to central governmental progressivism that was born with Lee's surrender at Appomattox
 
thilly wabbit said:
Why weren't they tried?
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Most of the losers were pardoned. How come you didn't know that?

http://www.nytimes.com/1865/05/30/news/president-johnson-s-amnesty-proclamation-restoration-rights-property-except.html

thilly wabbit said:
Tell me why Jefferson Davis never got his day in court after sitting in a dimly lit prison cell for two years.
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On April 9, 1865, Confederate General Robert E. Lee surrendered to the Union Army, ending the US Civil War. Former Confederate President Jefferson Davis had already fled the South’s capital in Richmond, Virginia. He wanted to escape to Britain or France, where he might reestablish a government in exile. However, before he could do so, members of the 4th Michigan Cavalry arrested him. At the time he was apprehended, Davis was sporting his wife’s black shawl. The Northern press tried to make him a laughingstock by accusing him of dressing as a woman in a desperate attempt to evade capture. However, Davis and his wife insisted that she had given him the shawl to stay warm for health reasons.

When Davis was indicted on a charge of treason in the federal court system, he stood before US Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon Chase, who was acting as a circuit judge at the time. Chase preferred to dismiss the treason charges, but another judge, John Underwood, wouldn’t agree to it. Davis’s defense team argued that he had already been punished by the 14th Amendment, which stopped him from serving in public office in the future.

As a former US House and Senate member before the war, Davis had taken an oath of allegiance to support the Constitution of the United States. Under the 14th Amendment, anyone who has taken such an oath and engaged in insurrection against the US cannot hold public office. According to Davis’s lawyers, that inability to hold public office under the 14th Amendment constituted punishment for his rebellious actions. To prosecute him for treason for the same rebellious actions would constitute double jeopardy under the 5th Amendment. Therefore, his lawyers argued, he could not be legally tried for treason.

However, the Chief Justice gave the Davis team another interesting argument for dropping the treason charge. Chase asked if a person could be prosecuted for treason against the US if he were not a US citizen. Clearly, no. Then Chase asked if there was a reference to the concept of a US citizen in the Constitution. Again, there was not. A person could only be a citizen of his state. Therefore, by proving that the US had no citizens, Davis couldn’t be tried for treason against the US.

Although a deadlocked case in the district court would have automatically gone to the Supreme Court, it ultimately didn’t matter.

President Andrew Johnson pardoned everyone who fought for the Confederacy on December 25, 1868, as long as they applied for the pardon. Although former officials of the Confederacy still couldn’t hold office or vote, they were now immune from prosecution for treason. In some circles, there wasn’t much appetite for trying Davis for treason anyway. Officials of the US government were afraid that Davis would prove that the South’s secession had been legal. However, the various amnesty provisions passed at that time never reinstated Davis’s citizenship. His citizenship rights were finally restored in 1978 by President Jimmy Carter.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2015/06/19/the-clever-way-jefferson-davis-avoided-being-convicted-of-treason/

If Davis had tried to use a restroom in North Carolina, though...:rofl2:
 
Legion Troll said:
Most of the losers were pardoned. How come you didn't know that?

http://www.nytimes.com/1865/05/30/news/president-johnson-s-amnesty-proclamation-restoration-rights-property-except.html



On April 9, 1865, Confederate General Robert E. Lee surrendered to the Union Army, ending the US Civil War. Former Confederate President Jefferson Davis had already fled the South’s capital in Richmond, Virginia. He wanted to escape to Britain or France, where he might reestablish a government in exile. However, before he could do so, members of the 4th Michigan Cavalry arrested him. At the time he was apprehended, Davis was sporting his wife’s black shawl. The Northern press tried to make him a laughingstock by accusing him of dressing as a woman in a desperate attempt to evade capture. However, Davis and his wife insisted that she had given him the shawl to stay warm for health reasons.

When Davis was indicted on a charge of treason in the federal court system, he stood before US Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon Chase, who was acting as a circuit judge at the time. Chase preferred to dismiss the treason charges, but another judge, John Underwood, wouldn’t agree to it. Davis’s defense team argued that he had already been punished by the 14th Amendment, which stopped him from serving in public office in the future.

As a former US House and Senate member before the war, Davis had taken an oath of allegiance to support the Constitution of the United States. Under the 14th Amendment, anyone who has taken such an oath and engaged in insurrection against the US cannot hold public office. According to Davis’s lawyers, that inability to hold public office under the 14th Amendment constituted punishment for his rebellious actions. To prosecute him for treason for the same rebellious actions would constitute double jeopardy under the 5th Amendment. Therefore, his lawyers argued, he could not be legally tried for treason.

However, the Chief Justice gave the Davis team another interesting argument for dropping the treason charge. Chase asked if a person could be prosecuted for treason against the US if he were not a US citizen. Clearly, no. Then Chase asked if there was a reference to the concept of a US citizen in the Constitution. Again, there was not. A person could only be a citizen of his state. Therefore, by proving that the US had no citizens, Davis couldn’t be tried for treason against the US.

Although a deadlocked case in the district court would have automatically gone to the Supreme Court, it ultimately didn’t matter.

President Andrew Johnson pardoned everyone who fought for the Confederacy on December 25, 1868, as long as they applied for the pardon. Although former officials of the Confederacy still couldn’t hold office or vote, they were now immune from prosecution for treason. In some circles, there wasn’t much appetite for trying Davis for treason anyway. Officials of the US government were afraid that Davis would prove that the South’s secession had been legal. However, the various amnesty provisions passed at that time never reinstated Davis’s citizenship. His citizenship rights were finally restored in 1978 by President Jimmy Carter.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2015/06/19/the-clever-way-jefferson-davis-avoided-being-convicted-of-treason/

If Davis had tried to use a restroom in North Carolina, though...:rofl2:
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No you stupid troll ass hole, I asked a question and I don't want any copy and pastes.

Now answer it.
 
The question:
thilly wabbit said:
Tell me why Jefferson Davis never got his day in court after sitting in a dimly lit prison cell for two years.
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The answer: When Davis was indicted on a charge of treason in the federal court system, he stood before US Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon Chase, who was acting as a circuit judge at the time.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2015/06/19/the-clever-way-jefferson-davis-avoided-being-convicted-of-treason/


Mark Twain — 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read.' :rofl2:
 
Leonthecat said:
Ask modern day racists, traitors and KKKonfederate apologists like CFM and philly rabbit. They still proudly fly the flag of American treason and racism. Still enemies of the USA.
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Has anybody here ever hear this moron say anything significant?

I don't fly any flags .. you race baiting, half female dud. You are a troll with a warped mind. Your intelligence level rivals the lower class of species on the food chain.
 
Legion Troll said:
The question:

The answer: When Davis was indicted on a charge of treason in the federal court system, he stood before US Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon Chase, who was acting as a circuit judge at the time.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2015/06/19/the-clever-way-jefferson-davis-avoided-being-convicted-of-treason/


Mark Twain — 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read.' :rofl2:
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No that's not an answer. Answer the question.

Why did he spend two years in prison and never got his day in court? Why was he in prison if charges were never given to him in front of a judge in a court?
 
philly rabbit said:
Has anybody here ever hear this moron say anything significant?

I don't fly any flags .. you race baiting, half female dud. You are a troll with a warped mind. Your intelligence level rivals the lower class of species on the food chain.
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So your avatar is a mistake? You ought to take it down. People are laughing at you.
Do you believe white people are genetically superior to other races?
 
thilly wabbit said:
No that's not an answer. Answer the question. Why did he spend two years in prison and never got his day in court? Why was he in prison if charges were never given to him in front of a judge in a court?
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The question:
thilly wabbit said:
Tell me why Jefferson Davis never got his day in court after sitting in a dimly lit prison cell for two years.
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The answer: When Davis was indicted on a charge of treason in the federal court system, he stood before US Supreme Court Chief Justice Salmon Chase, who was acting as a circuit judge at the time.

http://knowledgenuts.com/2015/06/19/the-clever-way-jefferson-davis-avoided-being-convicted-of-treason/


Mark Twain — 'The man who does not read has no advantage over the man who cannot read.' :rofl2:
 
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