Conservative religious voters perplexed by 2016 presidential campaign

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I've been thinking about this issue, how do Christian fundamentalists justify supporting Trump? He's the antithesis of everything they hold important.

For a generation, Christian conservative activists played such a central role in Republican presidential campaigns that the GOP has been called America’s first religious party. They opposed abortion and same-sex marriage and supported the party’s opposition to legal recognition of those two issues. And they promoted public recognition of religion, such as courthouse displays of the Ten Commandments and school recitations of the Pledge of Allegiance with its “under God” clause. While these were hardly the only issues on Republican platforms, they were central to many voters. This year, so much has been scrambled.

It’s not just that Donald Trump, who is nobody’s idea of a religious conservative, has gathered surprisingly strong support among self-described born-again Christians — and among Republican Catholics, no matter what Pope Francis says about those who build walls. And it’s not just the campaign mud-slinging, name-calling and anatomical boasts. It’s also that the issues themselves have shifted.

Yes, Mr. Trump, the billionaire businessman, has courted religious conservative leaders such as the Rev. Jerry Falwell Jr., though many other evangelical leaders have opposed him. And Mr. Trump has pledged to “protect Christianity,” which he says is “under siege.” But he has built his lead in delegates toward the GOP nomination by capturing and stirring anger over government, politicians, the economy and by targeting illegal immigrants and Muslims for exclusion. Ted Cruz, the U.S. senator from Texas with the pedigree of a pastor’s son and fluency in biblical vocabulary, is making a strong appeal for Christian conservatives’ votes, but their votes had been spread thinly across multiple candidates until they began dropping out.

Abortion appears a back-burner issue this year. And whereas a decade ago, a sure vote-getter in many states was to propose a constitutional amendment restricting marriage to heterosexual couples, nobody is seriously pushing such a response to the 2015 U.S. Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex marriage. That’s in recognition that Americans have radically shifted toward affirming same-sex relationships. Instead, religious conservatives are now taking a defensive posture. They’re calling for religious-freedom protections that would enable wedding vendors and others to conscientiously object to catering to same-sex marriages. A similar argument is being advanced in a pending case before the Supreme Court, brought by faith-based charities and schools seeking to opt out of the contraception mandate in Obamacare. Even so, such matters aren’t political drivers this campaign.

“I don’t think social issues have played nearly the kind of role they had in the past,” said Terry Madonna, director of the Franklin & Marshall College Poll. “Overall, the focus has largely been on the economy. The whole dynamic seems to be playing out on domestic politics more than the great social issues of our time.” He added that in recent polls “social issues are 1-3 percent top of mind. They’re just not simply there.” He said we shouldn’t be shocked that many evangelicals are drawn to Mr. Trump’s talking points. “If I’m an evangelical or born-again Christian, why can’t I also care about whether my party has let me down, whether my voice is being heard?” he said."

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http://www.post-gazette.com/news/po...16-presidential-campaign/stories/201604250008
 
As a Christian and a Conservative I dont support Trump and I will not vote for him if he ends up being the republican candidate. I can't in good conscience attach my name and soul to that man and his wants for our country.
 
After a while you have to accept that the economy and direction of the country matters the most.

Tell me about Jesus clearing the money-changers out of the temple, and that no man can serve God and mammon, and the rich man and the eye of the needle...:rofl2:
 
This Conservadurr® Christian wants to piss on the floor, because for the children!

Oh look, it’s another TOTALLY NORMAL REACTION to how Target says people can use whichever restroom matches their gender identity.

We are beginning to wonder what wingnuts actually do in the bathroom, because for a significant portion of America to be freaking out about human beings going into bathroom stalls and aiming #1 and #2 at the potty, there’s got to be something we are missing.

Anyway, here is insane pastor Rick Wiles, host of the wingnut TruNews radio program, sharing a fetish he’s been having, about doing golden showers on the floor at Target.


rickwiles2.jpg

Pastor Rick Wiles, who is a defender of Family Values - is so very worried about transgender people going into stalls and making bathroom, that he would like to fish his little pigtail penis out of his zipper — maybe in the women’s clothing department, or in the gender-neutral toy section of the store, we dunno — and make a BIG show of doing wee wee on the floor.

This is just a GREAT way to show everybody who’s a real sexual predator bathroom threat and who isn’t.



http://wonkette.com/601203/this-pastor-wants-to-show-you-his-penis-at-target-to-prove-other-people-are-predators#5mRescTwsjJe87ud.99
 
This Conservadurr® Christian wants to piss on the floor, because for the children!

Oh look, it’s another TOTALLY NORMAL REACTION to how Target says people can use whichever restroom matches their gender identity.

We are beginning to wonder what wingnuts actually do in the bathroom, because for a significant portion of America to be freaking out about human beings going into bathroom stalls and aiming #1 and #2 at the potty, there’s got to be something we are missing.

Anyway, here is insane pastor Rick Wiles, host of the wingnut TruNews radio program, sharing a fetish he’s been having, about doing golden showers on the floor at Target.


rickwiles2.jpg

Pastor Rick Wiles, who is a defender of Family Values - is so very worried about transgender people going into stalls and making bathroom, that he would like to fish his little pigtail penis out of his zipper — maybe in the women’s clothing department, or in the gender-neutral toy section of the store, we dunno — and make a BIG show of doing wee wee on the floor.

This is just a GREAT way to show everybody who’s a real sexual predator bathroom threat and who isn’t.



http://wonkette.com/601203/this-pastor-wants-to-show-you-his-penis-at-target-to-prove-other-people-are-predators#5mRescTwsjJe87ud.99

That's creepy.
Is the good Pastor directing his flock to follow his stream of thought ?
 
After a while you have to accept that the economy and direction of the country matters the most.

In a nut shell.

The culture wars have been won by the courts and many Christians have come to that realization. So, what's the point in trying to vote against abortion? Christians have jobs and families, so they're also concerned about the economy, national defense, immigration and etc. Trump comes along and it turns out he's strong on these issues.

Not really sure why that's so hard to understand, frankly.

But the left will never rest or be satisfied. After the victories in abortion and gay marriage, they turn to the absurd because that's all that's left. It will be amusing when they finally suffer the fate of all forms of extremism and succeed in marginalizing themselves.

It will make for great sport, lol.
 
As a Christian and a Conservative I dont support Trump and I will not vote for him if he ends up being the republican candidate. I can't in good conscience attach my name and soul to that man and his wants for our country.

Hillary will thank you for your steadfast stand......
 
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