You think it was good, even though it was full of inaccuracies and contradictions, excuse while I chuckle.
Trump's foreign policy speech
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You think it was good, even though it was full of inaccuracies and contradictions, excuse while I chuckle.
Again, you think inaccuracies, and contradictions are excellent, you make me laugh.
U.S. officials beginning with Obama have repeatedly stressed that the U.S. mission is not to contain ISIS but to “defeat” and “destroy” it. U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter has twice stated that we are “at war” with ISIS. And given the group’s potential for mayhem, this policy is wise. Yet 18 months after the first U.S. troops were ordered to Iraq to counter ISIS, the group has neither been defeated nor, according recently to Carter and JCS Chairman Joseph Dunford, even contained.
More remarkable is that the United States arguably has the means to destroy the group
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/syria/2016-01-04/how-defeat-isis
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The President gave his most direct and detailed assessment of ISIS since the terrorist group has brutally decapitated two American journalists and killed thousands of Iraqis. It is a vastly different message than he gave nearly two weeks ago, when he said the U.S. didn't have a strategy "yet" to deal with ISIS in Syria, and in January, when he called it and other groups the JV team.
"Well, they're not a JV team," Obama said in Sunday's "Meet the Press" interview.
lol
"some offense"
Real details there, yeah, so much better than Trump.
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In order to "speak his language", it's customary to add "lol" to random sentences.
Like this, lol.
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Really? How much are they sending Darth? Is it a monthly stipend?
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Well, I posted previously on all of the details that Obama has released to date. You pretty much ignored that post, and seem to be going out of your way to discredit any actual facts & links that I'm posting.
Because yeah - it IS so much better than Trump. And I don't even think Obama is good on foreign policy. But he's detailed, and understands world affairs. Trump comes across like a child. He is hopelessly naive. His speech yesterday was meandering & full of contradictions. But his supporters love that stuff.
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No one’s fears are likely to be allayed by this speech, which was clearly worked up by his new campaign advisers and read from a teleprompter.
It did not exhibit much grasp of the complexity of the world, understanding of the balance or exercise of power, or even a careful reading of history.
When one has a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And when one’s experience is limited to real estate deals, everything looks like a lease negotiation.
Hearing Trump describe his approach to foreign relations, one imagines a group of nations sitting at a table with him at its head, rather like a scene from “The Apprentice,” with him demanding more money, more troops and policy changes in exchange for American protection, trade and friendship.
And if he doesn’t get what he wants? “In negotiation, you must be willing to walk,” Trump said.
This unilateral approach makes for good television, but this is the real world, in which other nations have agendas, too.
Trump says he is “going to be working very closely with our allies in the Muslim world, all of which are at risk from radical Islamic violence.”
How will he gain cooperation for his “unpredictable” war on the Islamic State while enforcing a “pause” that prevents Muslims from entering this country, and forcing those living here to register themselves?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/opinion/donald-trump-to-world-im-willing-to-walk.html
It did not exhibit much grasp of the complexity of the world, understanding of the balance or exercise of power, or even a careful reading of history.
When one has a hammer, everything looks like a nail. And when one’s experience is limited to real estate deals, everything looks like a lease negotiation.
Hearing Trump describe his approach to foreign relations, one imagines a group of nations sitting at a table with him at its head, rather like a scene from “The Apprentice,” with him demanding more money, more troops and policy changes in exchange for American protection, trade and friendship.
And if he doesn’t get what he wants? “In negotiation, you must be willing to walk,” Trump said.
This unilateral approach makes for good television, but this is the real world, in which other nations have agendas, too.
Trump says he is “going to be working very closely with our allies in the Muslim world, all of which are at risk from radical Islamic violence.”
How will he gain cooperation for his “unpredictable” war on the Islamic State while enforcing a “pause” that prevents Muslims from entering this country, and forcing those living here to register themselves?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/opinion/donald-trump-to-world-im-willing-to-walk.html
Then I must have missed the part where Trump talked about "long term presence".....if you tell me it was there....
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I must have missed the part where stabilizing a region like the Middle East could be done quickly and with a short-term presence.
I just love that you're a Trump guy, already. That didn't take long.
The objective has always been to defeat and destroy ISIS, but the problem is that you can not use conventional methods and that is what Trump wants to do and that is where Trump's plan will fall flat.
Exactly, he has already alienated the group he needs to help defeat ISIS.
The strategy Hillary Clinton outlined hinges on three main elements – defeating ISIS in Syria, Iraq, and across the Middle East; disrupting and dismantling the growing terrorist infrastructure that facilitates the flow of fighters, financing, arms, and propaganda around the world; and defeat them here at home by foiling plots, disrupting radicalization, and hardening our defenses.
Obama's strategy seems to be air strikes....
How does this differ from anything Trump has said ?
I didn't hear Trump say anything about it being done quickly or mention a long term presence....
and trying to clarify what he did or didn't say is not showing support or non support for anyone....
Nope, you only read what you want to read, they are cutting off their funds, ISIS is very cash strapped these days, they are cutting off their communications, facebook was the recent assault against ISIS. They are now having to use others means to communicate, in addition to airstrikes on their leaders, which has also crippled their organization.
"If you take the man at his word and you listen to his statements on the trail, he set himself up, if he's elected, to trigger the largest civil military crisis probably since the American Civil War," he says.
Breen argues that Trump is suggesting that U.S. soldiers carry out "illegal orders" — things like targeting the families of terrorists, and murdering civilians on purpose, and torturing for the sake of torturing.
"He says even if [torture] doesn't work, let's do it anyway," Breen says. "He's talking about, as a presidential candidate, issuing clearly illegal orders that our senior military leaders would be very unlikely to follow. That's a crisis we haven't had in a long time."
http://www.wnyc.org/story/what-armed-forces-think-commander-chief-trump/
Breen argues that Trump is suggesting that U.S. soldiers carry out "illegal orders" — things like targeting the families of terrorists, and murdering civilians on purpose, and torturing for the sake of torturing.
"He says even if [torture] doesn't work, let's do it anyway," Breen says. "He's talking about, as a presidential candidate, issuing clearly illegal orders that our senior military leaders would be very unlikely to follow. That's a crisis we haven't had in a long time."
http://www.wnyc.org/story/what-armed-forces-think-commander-chief-trump/
And does what you say and what we're doing differ from anything Trump has said.....?