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A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast.

Voter ID laws are back in the news once again.

Part of this litigation — and any rational debate about the issue generally — hinges on two things: costs and benefits.

The costs of these sorts of laws vary, because the laws themselves differ from state to state (some are far more burdensome than others).

The ostensible benefits, though, are all the same. And in addressing these purported benefits, the Court blew it.

First, the idea that ID laws enhance public confidence--that is, in theory, the laws might make us feel better about elections, is hard to spot.

People in states with restrictive ID laws don’t generally feel better about their elections than people in more permissive states.

People who think elections are being stolen, and people who think they’re not, each hold on to that opinion no matter what the governing ID rules in their area.

The factor that really influences whether people think the elections are fair?

Whether their preferred candidates win.

A supporter of Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker was recently charged with 13 counts of election fraud, including "registering to vote in more than one place, voting where he didn't live, voting more than once in the same election, and providing false information to election officials,".

ID laws would not likely have prevented any of the alleged violations.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/
 
Republicans are beginning to find that voter ID laws are not the solution they thought it would be to tilt the balance in their direction. In South Carolina, republicans are at least as confused about the new ID requirements as anyone else.
 
Republicans are beginning to find that voter ID laws are not the solution they thought it would be to tilt the balance in their direction. In South Carolina, republicans are at least as confused about the new ID requirements as anyone else.

Conservative65 lives in South Carolina, doesn't he, Brother Leon?
 
Do you believe he is deserving of our absolution?

His mind may be out of balance due to disappointment in his personal life, Brother Leon.

Perhaps he has been trying some Christian "healing prayer", laying on hands in an attempt to force the dead in Christ to rise again, if you know what I mean.
 
There is overwhelming scholarly and legal consensus that voter fraud is vanishingly rare, and in fact non-existent at the levels imagined by voter ID proponents.

That hasn't stopped many Republican lawmakers from crying "fraud" every time they're faced with an unfavorable election outcome.

The Truth About Voter Fraud, by Justin Levitt of Loyola Law School documents a wide-ranging analysis of alleged incidents of voter fraud across the U.S. "Usually, only a tiny portion of the claimed illegality is substantiated — and most of the remainder is either nothing more than speculation or has been conclusively debunked."

The Politics of Voter Fraud, by Lorraine Minnite of Columbia University concludes that voter fraud is exceedingly rare, and that the few allegations in the record usually turn out to be something other than voter fraud: "a review of news stories over a recent two year period found that reports of voter fraud were most often limited to local races and individual acts and fell into three categories: unsubstantiated or false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error."

Fraudulent Votes, Voter Identification and the 2012 US General Election, by John Ahlquist and Kenneth R. Mayer of the University of Wisconsin, and Simon Jackman of Stanford measured the prevalence of two specific types of voter fraud: repeat/fraudulent ballot casting and vote buying. Their conclusion: "The notion that voter impersonation is a widespread behavior is totally contradicted by the data."

Caught in the Act: Recent Federal Election Fraud Cases, by Delia Bailey of the Washington University unearthed only nine federal election fraud cases occurring between 2000 and 2005.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/07/09/7-papers-4-government-inquiries-2-news-investigations-and-1-court-ruling-proving-voter-fraud-is-mostly-a-myth/
 
The naked truth in the matter is that republicans don't want voter ID to stop voter fraud. They know the numbers as well as anyone.
They want to stop Democratic victories and this is all they have left to fight with.
We are watching a disingenuous last gasp of desperation.
 
The naked truth in the matter is that republicans don't want voter ID to stop voter fraud. They know the numbers as well as anyone.
They want to stop Democratic victories and this is all they have left to fight with.
We are watching a disingenuous last gasp of desperation.

Think so?
 
The facts are, high voter turnout favors Democratic candidates, and low voter turnout favors republican candidates.
Armed with this statistic the GOP does everything they can do to make it harder for Americans to vote.
They can't change people's minds on the merits of their arguments, so beyond praying for rain on election day, voter suppression is all they have left.
 
The facts are, high voter turnout favors Democratic candidates, and low voter turnout favors republican candidates.
Armed with this statistic the GOP does everything they can do to make it harder for Americans to vote.
They can't change people's minds on the merits of their arguments, so beyond praying for rain on election day, voter suppression is all they have left.

That seems plausible, Brother Leon.

Why else would they pretend that voter impersonation is a problem?
 
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