Dreaming of Palestine

Darth Omar

Russian asset
LET’S CREATE A REAL PALESTINIAN STATE

A Palestinian state has never existed during any period in human history.

Let’s change that.

The United States has spent billions of dollars trying to create a Palestinian state. It’s time that we finally got our money’s worth. We’ve been putting money in the broken Palestinian slot machine in the metaphorical Palestinian casino (the real one was shot up when terrorists turned it into a base) for decades. It’s time to finally get our Palestinian jackpot. But to make it happen, we need to be realistic.

Forget the peace process. Forget negotiations. They’ve never worked before. They’re not going to now.

And there’s nothing to negotiate anyway.

There are almost a million Jews living on territory claimed by the PLO. Removing them would be the single greatest act of ethnic cleansing against an indigenous population today. It would also be impossible. But the same people who insist that the United States, a country of 318 million, can’t deport 11 million illegal aliens, think that Israel will somehow deport 1/8th of its own population if they just chant loudly enough about “occupation” outside Jewish businesses in London or San Francisco.

Ethnically cleansing 8,000 Jews from Gaza/Gush Katif led to nationwide civil disobedience, riots and, eventually, the fall of a political party and three straight terms for Prime Minister Netanyahu. Now imagine trying to deport 800,000 people from their homes simply because they’re Jewish.

And it wouldn’t just be the Jews alone being rounded up into trucks, buses and maybe boxcars.

52 percent of Arabs in East Jerusalem would rather be Israeli citizens than live under the PLO. Are we supposed to deport 100,000 Arabs from Jerusalem to make way for this imaginary “Palestinian” state?

How much ethnic cleansing do we have to do to make the Islamic colonial fantasy of Palestine real?

It’s not going to happen.

Let’s create a real Palestinian state instead. And I don’t mean the PLO’s President for Life Mahmoud Abbas going down to the UN to give another speech. Abbas is on his 11th year of a 4-year term. The US spent $4.5 billion promoting “Palestinian democracy” and the last PLO election was ten years ago.

Hamas won. It would win today all over again.

Current polling shows that 2/3 of “Palestinians” want Abbas to resign. Abbas has no political authority to form a Palestinian state, a Palestinian shawarma stand or a Palestinian anything.

If there’s going to be a Palestinian state, it has to be based on the will of the people. That means it will be a Hamas state. A Palestinian state that is not based on the will of its people has no legitimacy. The only legitimate Palestinian state is therefore a Hamas terror state.

And that’s the only kind of state you can have when 2/3 of “Palestinians” support stabbing Israeli civilians, 89% want to live under an Islamic State run by Sharia law, 84% want to stone adulterers to death and 66% support killing any Muslim who leaves Islam.

Only an Islamic terror state can truly represent the homicidal aspirations of the Palestinian people.

Is this some sort of sick joke? Yes it is. But it’s not my sick joke. It’s the sick joke that is Palestine. Now let’s begin the process of turning this sick twisted joke into its own state.

The first thing to do is dismantle the UNRWA, a UN agency specifically dedicated to catering to “Palestinians”. The UNRWA is one of the key elements of the Palestinian welfare state. And the US kicks in around $300 million to the organization which fulfills many of the functions of a state. But a state doesn’t need its own refugee agency. And a Hamas terror state doesn’t need a further $350 million dollars in US foreign aid to promote “democracy” and improve its infrastructure and institutions.

This is going to be a problem because the imaginary Palestinian state also has a fantasy economy. The largest employer in the Palestinian Authority is the Palestinian Authority. Most of its money comes from America, Europe, Israel and, for some inconceivable reason, Japan.

The terror state gets its electricity from Israel. It gets its water and internet through Israel.

So let’s get a clear look at what a real Palestinian state would look like. It would be Gaza writ large. But without the UNRWA and the rest of the NGOs lining up to provide jobs and social services. It would be an “open air prison”, as anti-Israel activists screech of Gaza, but a prison created and maintained by the inmates. It would be constantly at war with Israel and the rest of the world. The way it is now.

The economy will be a thinly disguised feudal system of Islamists with engineering degrees in mansions paying starvation wages to laborers to harvest olives to be shipped to China. There will be shopping malls for some and little shacks on the edges full of smugglers, drug labs and brothels for everyone else.

That’s the Islamist dream.

Palestine’s political system will consist of Hamas and more Hamas. Or maybe once the Hamas alliance with ISIS in the Sinai lapses, there will finally be a democratic election between Hamas and ISIS to decide just how horrible of a place the misshapen slices of Gaza and the West Bank under terrorist occupation will become. Nothing will function except the religious police and the gallows in the dusty squares.

There will be wars every two years. That will be just long enough to rebuild the hospitals, mosques and schools that were being used as launch sites in the last wars. In between the big wars, the terrorist groups, Hamas factions, ISIS, Islamic Jihad and anybody else, will fight each other in the streets.

It will be glorious.

Imagine the last few decades of terror, bombings, missile strikes, firefights, corruption, thievery and utter dysfunction made into a permanent state of affairs. That’s Palestine. That’s the two-state solution. Just don’t ask what it solves except the Middle East’s severe shortage of terrorist states and terrorists.

If you will it, it is no dream. This nightmare already exists and it can be a real country. It already has an anthem, a flag, no elections and no reason to exist except killing everyone else. It’s a foreign aid funded ISIS with more olive harvests and a more robust campus presence.

Everyone talks about creating a Palestinian state, but no one actually wants to do it.

It’s time for Palestine to stop being a pipe dream full of pipe bombs that we spend billions of dollars on. Just pull out a seat at the UN, hold democratic elections and then step away from the explosions.

A real two-state solution is just that simple. And it can happen tomorrow.

Let’s stop fantasizing about peace. Peace and Palestine go together like oil and water. This is what a real Palestinian state would look like. And the moment it comes into being, any possibility of peace dies.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262...stinian-state-daniel-greenfield#disqus_thread

By all means, let's create a new caliphate.
 
The Palestinian nation is ancient. It seems that you can't differentiate between ' nation' and ' state '.

The Palestinian state , like any other state- including Israel- is dependent upon United Nations recognition for its substance. Palestine achieved UNited Nations recognition in November of 2012- much to the horror of its neoZionist occupiers and their American bankrollers.
So you're very much behind the times with your desperate effort to diminish an entire people and to side with illegal occupiers and ethnic cleansers. Take a look at yourself now.
 
The Palestinian nation is ancient. It seems that you can't differentiate between ' nation' and ' state '.

The Palestinian state , like any other state- including Israel- is dependent upon United Nations recognition for its substance. Palestine achieved UNited Nations recognition in November of 2012- much to the horror of its neoZionist occupiers and their American bankrollers.
So you're very much behind the times with your desperate effort to diminish an entire people and to side with illegal occupiers and ethnic cleansers. Take a look at yourself now.

The US depends on the UN for its substance? I think you have that backwards lol. Just like about everything else on this issue.

What do you think the Palestinian State would look like? Do you think they'll stop murdering Jews once they become an actual nation state?
 
The US depends on the UN for its substance? I think you have that backwards lol. Just like about everything else on this issue.

Yes, even the US. You live in the gung-ho past of victorious colonialism.


What do you think the Palestinian State would look like?


You should take a look at it before your ethnic-cleansing Israel pals arrived.

Tell Me Again, Who Made The Desert Bloom?

http://tinyurl.com/zws4cr4

No wait- YOU think that the Palestinians invaded Israel.

Do you think they'll stop murdering Jews once they become an actual nation state?

Palestine is already a nation state, as I've just pointed out.

There have been many murders on both sides- with Israel in the lead by many thousands, including thousands of children. You didn't know this ?

When it comes down to it, NO OCCUPATION = NO RESISTANCE TO OCCUPATION. You're a smart fellow, you should see the sense in that.
 
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Yes, even the US. You live in the gung-ho past of victorious colonialism.





You should take a look at it before your ethnic-cleansing Israel pals arrived.



No wait- YOU think that the Palestinians invaded Israel.



Palestine is already a nation state, as I've just pointed out.

There have been many murders on both sides- with Israel in the lead by many thousands, including thousands of children. You didn't know this ?

When it comes down to it, NO OCCUPATION = NO RESISTANCE TO OCCUPATION. You're a smart fellow, you should see the sense in that.




If the Israelis were anything like the Fascists that you claim them to be, then why would they supply water, electricity and internet services to the Gaza and the West Bank. Surely if they were that bad they would cut them off. In fact just recently Israel actually doubled the amount of water it supplies to Gaza, I bet you didn't read that on any of those Jihad websites you frequent.

You might also want to ask yourself why the Israelis would want to cooperate with Jordan and Palestine on the Red Sea-Dead Sea project? There is nothing to stop them going it alone and building a Mediterranean-Dead Sea pipeline instead.

http://www.waterworld.com/articles/...-light-for-red-dead-sea-pipeline-project.html
 
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If the Israelis were anything like the Fascists that you claim them to be, then why would they supply water, electricity and internet services to the Gaza and the West Bank. Surely if they were that bad they would cut them off. In fact just recently Israel actually doubled the amount of water it supplies to Gaza, I bet you didn't read that on any of those Jihad websites you frequent.

You might also want to ask yourself why the Israelis would want to cooperate with Jordan and Palestine on the Red Sea-Dead Sea project? There is nothing to stop them going it alone and building a Mediterranean-Dead Sea pipeline instead.

http://www.waterworld.com/articles/...-light-for-red-dead-sea-pipeline-project.html

As I said previously, you're a propaganda pump for ethnic cleansers.



Pollution caused by raw sewage and rising seawater infiltration makes 90 percent of Gaza’s water unfit for human consumption. Nearly 10% of Palestinian communities in the West Bank remain without access to piped potable water systems.

http://www.anera.org/category/econo...C1odGuk8wCFUqdGwodVYwLxg#sthash.b8n0Mlnq.dpuf

The current crisis is the worst Gaza has seen in decades, More than 100,000 people have had their homes destroyed. Hospitals, schools, shops and factories have all been badly damaged, and thousands have lost everything they owned. The destruction to water and sanitation systems, and Gaza's only power plant, has left hundreds of thousands of people without vital services. The massive destruction of infrastructure will take years to rebuild, and a quarter of the population does not have access to running water or essential services.

Even before the latest hostilities, civilians in Gaza have been struggling to cope with the ongoing blockade and the restricted movement of goods and people imposed by Israel. The economy was already decimated with almost 70 percent of young people unemployed. Producers are prevented from selling goods in other Palestinian markets in the West Bank, and exports have fallen to just two percent of levels before the blockade. The UN has stated that Gaza will become uninhabitable in the next few years, with most water unsafe to drink and public services stretched to the limit.

http://www.oxfam.org.uk/what-we-do/...WfGwodfakChg&dclid=CJjhsKSvk8wCFUx62wod-3oDIw


Fascism is your friend;

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You misunderstand my use of Haaretz. Haaretz features news for progessive Israelis which sometimes suits the purposes on the anti-Zionist lobby. It also features articles written by spurious or anti Palestinian contributors. Sometimes such articles simply act as a mouthpiece for the Israeli military of Israeli security forces. The one you've posted can be taken with a grain of salt.

You're not even aware that Israel has sequestered Palestinian water sources. Fool.
 
You misunderstand my use of Haaretz. Haaretz features news for progessive Israelis which sometimes suits the purposes on the anti-Zionist lobby. It also features articles written by spurious or anti Palestinian contributors. Sometimes such articles simply act as a mouthpiece for the Israeli military of Israeli security forces. The one you've posted can be taken with a grain of salt.

You're not even aware that Israel has sequestered Palestinian water sources. Fool.

Kind of sounds like a fair and balanced source which sometimes features a POV you disagree with lol.

Anyway, so how do you conceive of a 'Nation of Palestine' once it's up and running? And how would you go about convincing myself and other skeptics that it wouldn't be a defacto terrorist state populated by Islamists?

And wouldn't that actually be worse than the Zionists you rail against incessantly?
 
Kind of sounds like a fair and balanced source which sometimes features a POV you disagree with lol.

Anyway, so how do you conceive of a 'Nation of Palestine' once it's up and running? And how would you go about convincing myself and other skeptics that it wouldn't be a defacto terrorist state populated by Islamists?

And wouldn't that actually be worse than the Zionists you rail against incessantly?

He won't answer that, that would require him to actually think.
 
Kind of sounds like a fair and balanced source which sometimes features a POV you disagree with lol.

That's what I said. Fool thinks that I will accept anything from Haaretz as a matter of truth. It's the format by which he absorbs hasbara.

Anyway, so how do you conceive of a 'Nation of Palestine' once it's up and running? And how would you go about convincing myself and other skeptics that it wouldn't be a defacto terrorist state populated by Islamists?

Did you take this in ?

Tell Me Again, Who Made The Desert Bloom?

http://tinyurl.com/zws4cr4

Palestine functioned well before it was invaded by European Zionists- with a demonstrable agenda of ethnic cleansing.



And wouldn't that actually be worse than the Zionists you rail against incessantly?

Your vision of the Palestinian state ? That's highly improbable. You don't seem to have realized it yet but the plight of Palestine - at the hands of brutal Zionists- was the root factor in Middle Eastern turmoil from the outset. You don't want to blame Zionism- but you're simply ignoring the camel in the mag'ad. Palestinian freedom will ease many tensions- as will the curtailment of Israeli hegemony.
 
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