2016 Greenland melt season is off to the races - what's up with that?

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Warm conditions rapidly kicked off the melt season this weekend, more than a month-and-a-half ahead of schedule. It has easily set a record for earliest melt season onset.

Melt season kicks off when 10 percent of the ice sheet experiences surface melt. The previous record for earliest start was May 5, 2010.

Last year, a cool spring kept Greenland mostly solid before a summer heat wave led to a rapid meltdown. In July 2012, a record-setting 95 percent of the ice sheet experienced surface melting due to high temperatures.

Temperatures in southwest Greenland set an April record when they reached 64.4°F on Monday. That’s just .4°F off the all-time Greenland high for April. The summit of the ice sheet has also seen record warm temperatures.

The Greenland ice sheet represents one of the most massive stores of ice on the planet. Melting ice is affecting ocean circulation and even the drift of the North Pole.


http://news.discovery.com/earth/global-warming/greenlands-melt-season-started-nearly-two-months-early-160414.htm
 
"Very unusual" melting seen on Greenland ice sheet

Spring thaw is coming exceptionally early in Greenland this year, with 50-degree Fahrenheit temperatures creating a melt area that makes up 12 percent of Earth's most northern ice sheet, according to data released this week by the Danish Meteorological Institute (DMI).

The scientists behind the report were shocked by what they found.

"We had to check that our models were still working properly," Peter Langen, a climate scientist at DMI, said in a blog post.

This amount of ice melt is taking place about a month earlier than normal. The previous top three earliest dates for a melt area larger than 10 percent all took place in May. The researchers reported that those dates were May 5, 2010, and May 8 in 2006 and 1990.

"Even weather stations quite high up on the ice sheet observed very high temperatures on Monday," said Robert Fausto, a scientist at the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland who maintains melt data.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/greenland-ice-sheet-melting-as-temperatures-warm/
 
Must be a pause, or El Niño, or perhaps the gases from burning fossil fuels are making the deniers giddy.
 
Scientists are stunned by what just happened in Greenland

Emerging from a winter that has had staggeringly warm Arctic temperatures, scientists monitoring the vast Greenland ice sheet announced Tuesday that it is experiencing a record-breaking level of melt for so early in the season.

The Danish Meteorological Institute reported that although it’s only April, nearly 12 percent of the ice sheet’s surface is covered with a layer of meltwater of a depth of at least a millimeter. “The former top 3 earliest dates for a melt area larger than 10% were previously all in May (5th May 2010, 8th May 1990, 8th May 2006),” the institute noted on the website Polar Portal.

The news raised memories of the record melt season in 2012, when the ice sheet as a whole lost 562 gigatons, or billion tons, of freshwater mass to the ocean, enough to raise sea levels the world over by more than a millimeter in that year alone.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/04/13/its-april-and-scientists-are-already-stunned-by-greenlands-melting/

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Leonthecat said:
This winter has been exceptionally mild her in Colorado too. April looks much more like June in the mountains.
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Well you are in for a nasty shock then and it couldn't happen to a nicer man. I hope you are snowed in and your balls drop off!!

Poor deluded Leoni!!

A slow-moving storm will supply enough cold air for accumulating snow to fall across the eastern Rockies and High Plains, including Denver, this weekend. "After springlike temperatures for the past several days, a dramatic change will unfold this weekend across the High Plains," AccuWeather Meteorologist Ryan Adamson said. The jet stream will dip southward along the United States and Mexico border and open the door for cold air from Canada to seep southward across the eastern Rockies and western Plains.

The jet stream, a narrow zone of strong winds in the upper levels of the atmosphere, assists in separating cold air to the north and warmer air to the south.
Highs in Denver have reached the 60s and 70s F since April 2. By this weekend, highs may fail to reach 40. "While wild changes are not uncommon this time of year, it will still be a shock for many," Adamson said.


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Read more: http://www.accuweather.com/en/weath...-high-plains-denver-cheyenne-wyoming/56695537
 
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Milagro said:
Well you are in for a nasty shock then and it couldn't happen to a nicer man. I hope you are snowed in and your balls drop off!!

Poor deluded Leoni!!



Read more: http://www.accuweather.com/en/weath...-high-plains-denver-cheyenne-wyoming/56695537
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We are well aware of the upcoming spring storm, that may be snow and may be rain, Borbo. As you know snow storms have little indication of changes in climate temperatures, especially here in the mountains.
If average temperatures are supposed to be 15 degrees F and the climate warms by 10 degrees to 25F IT WILL STILL SNOW GENIUS!
Since February our average daily temperature here has been as much as a whooping 5 to 10 degrees F above normal . The ice on the lake near my home never got thick enough for safe ice fishing this year. A first for everyone I have talked to. My home heating bill has gone down an average of 50 to 60 dollars a month compared to just last year.
Over the past 10 years the pine bark beetle population has grown exponentially because the -30 to-40 temps that historically occurred here that killed the grubs haven't happened. As a result the lodgepole pine forest are all but gone, decimated by the run away pine bark beetle infestation. Hundreds of millions of acres decimated due solely to global climate change that caused abnormally high lows OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS...
Yes it still snows here but the climate has changed drastically since I moved here 26 years ago, and alarmingly so this record breaking warm winter

SNOW FALL IS IN NO WAY AN INDICATOR OF AVERAGE TEMPERATURE ABOVE 8000 FEET. ONLY AN IMBECILE WOULD THINK THAT IT IS.

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The warmest readings for the month were reported from the Northern Rockies into the Northern Plains and across the Northeast. Northern California, parts of Oregon and some small areas in northern Colorado reported near-average March temperatures.
For the first three months of 2016, NOAA reports that 32 states across West, Great Plains, Midwest and Northeast were much warmer than average. The year-to-date is the warmest since 2012, which was marked by a sizzling spring and ferocious summer heatwaves. Overall, it was the third-warmest January-March period for the lower 48 states.
Alaska has been record warm for the year-to-date, with the temperature running 11.9 degrees above average for the first three months of 2016. Record readings came from across Alaska, including Barrow, Bethel, Homer, Juneau and King Salmon. For the first time in the modern era of record-keeping, temperatures in southeaster Alaska reached 70 degrees in March.
https://summitcountyvoice.com/2016/04/06/climate-all-u-s-states-saw-above-average-temps-in-march/
Summit County records three days of record-breaking high temperatures
Summit County recorded a rare, mid-March heat wave when Sunday, Monday and Tuesday saw record-breaking high temperatures.

According to data produced by Colorado State University’s Colorado Climate Center, Sunday’s high temperature was 58 degrees, which broke the record of 57 degrees that dates all the way back to 1916.

Temperatures and other weather data is officially recorded every day by Denver Water staff at the weather station on the northeast edge of Dillon Reservoir.

Monday’s high temperature rose to 60 degrees, besting the 1994 record of 57, and then Tuesday’s high climbed to 61 degrees, higher than the 58-degree record set in 1921.

Wednesday morning’s low temperature of 27 degrees tied for second warmest on record for the day, behind the 30-degree record set in 1974.

With this week’s high temperatures, snow coverage shrunk rapidly around parts of the county.

“You’ve been melting quite swiftly here just the last few days,” said Nolan Doesken, state climatologist with the center.

In Silverthorne, the Ravens Golf Course closed to snowshoeing and Nordic skiing Wednesday and the North Pond Park ice rink closed about 10 days ago.

WARM SEASON

Low temperatures came closer to setting a new record. The winter’s mean low temperature of 8.7 degrees is the second warmest.

The overall mean temperature, which is the average of the highs and lows for the season, is the fourth warmest at 21.5 degrees. The warmest winter was in 1980-81 with a mean temperature of 24.2 degrees.



MELTING SNOWPACK



Lower in the valleys, Doesken said, the data produced by the roughly 10 volunteers in Summit County who measure snowpack for the Community Collaborative Rain, Hail and Snow Network dropped quickly out of the top 50 spots in the U.S. and Canada for most backyard snowpack with the heat wave.

“Today it’s down to just the Breckenridge station,” he said Wednesday. “Downtown Boston still has more snow today than Frisco.”

Addressing climate change concerns, Doesken said ski areas in Summit County are uniquely positioned compared to the rest of the country because of their high elevation.

“Those 9,000 feet and above are in good shape for a long time,” he said. “When the climate changes so much that we’re not holding snow at those altitudes then things are crazy.”

Local ski area officials, however, have expressed long-range concerns about how a drop in interest in winter sports nationally over the next few decades because of warm, dry weather elsewhere could negatively affect Colorado resorts.

LOOKING FORWARD

The National Weather Service forecasted a 50 percent chance of rain and snow for Frisco on Thursday with a high of 40 degrees and placed a winter storm warning in effect until Thursday at 6 p.m.

Friday and Saturday will be sunny with highs in the upper 40s, and Sunday through Tuesday will see similar temperatures with chances of precipitation.

Winter sports enthusiasts wishing they could take snow from the east coasters who would surely give it can hope for a return of the snow similar to what happened in the spring of 2013.

“Temperatures weren’t quite as warm, but the snowpack was pitiful,” he said. “Then starting the end of March it turned around, and you had some of your best conditions as the ski areas were closing.”

March is typically Summit’s snowiest month, he said, followed by April.

In February the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicted above average precipitation for Colorado in March, April and May, and NOAA will release an updated forecast Thursday.
http://www.summitdaily.com/news/15534604-113/summit-county-records-three-days-of-record-breaking-high-temperatures
Record highs in Aspen renew winter climate concerns

Monday marked the fifth consecutive day of 50-degree temperatures in Aspen, and each of those days set record highs, based on 17 years of National Weather Service data at the Aspen-Pitkin County Airport.

http://www.aspentimes.com/news/15008477-113/meteorologist-sees-big-winters-ahead

This Was the Warmest Winter on Record
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New data confirms above-average temperatures
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New data suggests that the United States is in the midst of the warmest winter on record. NOAA's National Centers for Environmental Information just released its State of the Climate: National Overview for February 2016 report tracking weather stats for December through February. The data reveals record high average temperatures across the contiguous U.S.

East Coast skiers know that this winter has been tough with little moisture and warm temperatures. The average temp was 36.8°F, which surpasses the previous record of 36.5°F set in 1999/2000. Just how warm has it been? Forty-six states across the U.S. had an above average winter temperature.

http://ski.curbed.com/2016/3/11/11196048/warmest-winter-on-record

Poor stupid ,stupid Borbo.
 
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Milagro said:
When I was in Thailand and Vietnam earlier this year, the weather was cooler than normal, so much so that snow fell in Central Vietnam. That's never happened in living memory, so what do you make of that Leoni?

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Snow fall is not an indicator of average climate temperatures. Your examples of snow falls are anecdotal. Not statistical.
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