Indiana's new abortion law won't save babies. It will only make my patients suffer.

[CFM]

You having gay sex is your choice
Your wife banging someone else is hers

Neither have happened just like the two degrees you claim to have don't exist.

 

[CFM]

Exactly it's dumb republican partisanship
These obvious racist are as Christian as the turd I just flushed
Thank god they are that dumb, the democrats are only a tiny bit smarter

You flushed yourself? I told you that what your mother did was take a shit and called it you.

 

[Cancel 2020.1]

Do you believe women who have children they can't afford to support should be able to demand someone else support their kids despite saying that the choice to have those kids was no one else's business?

Most don't really "demand" it. It's just the nature of bringing unwanted children into the world. There will be costs, and a lot of woman who would normally choose abortion early on will not be able to afford those costs.

 

[The Dude]

Do you believe women who have children they can't afford to support should be able to demand someone else support their kids despite saying that the choice to have those kids was no one else's business?

Ah by the millions
Mostly whites by the way

 

[CFM]

I am just stating facts, that's what happens whether you like it or not. I hate the procedure but see it as the lesser evil to backstreet abortions or children born into homes where they are not wanted. Often time it is not the woman's choice anyway but more likely an abusive man that fucks around and refuses to wear condoms.

That wasn't the question. I know it's how it happens. I'm asking whether or not it should especially when women argue that the choices they make with their bodies aren't anyone else's business.

 

[CFM]

Ah by the millions
Mostly whites by the way

It's the only way the bitch you called mother would have had anything. Some white person had to support your sorry asses.

 

[The Dude]

It's the only way the bitch you called mother would have had anything. Some white person had to support your sorry asses.

Your neighbor is supporting your wife's tits while you are at work

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I am just stating facts, that's what happens whether you like it or not. I hate the procedure but see it as the lesser evil to backstreet abortions or children born into homes where they are not wanted. Often time it is not the woman's choice anyway but more likely an abusive man that fucks around and refuses to wear condoms.

just hypothetically, do you think that if people saw the awful aspects and existence of people who were forced to deal with their choices on their own, that it would persuade the next generation to make better choices?

 

[The Dude]

just hypothetically, do you think that if people saw the awful aspects and existence of people who were forced to deal with their choices on their own, that it would persuade the next generation to make better choices?

Hypothetically if you didn't get kick out of the military and used your gi Bill. Would you be more educated

 

[CFM]

Let's nitty-gritty this one right down to the root, shall we?

For everyone who is anti-choice, I have a simple question:

If a woman you have never met, that you will never meet, and that you have no chance of meeting, who lives either in your town or on the other side of the country, chooses to terminate a pregnancy, what iron have you got in the fire that you should be seeking to stop her?

If a woman I've never met, will never meet, or have no chance of meeting makes a choice of having a child she can't afford, what iron does she have in the fire to expect the rest of us to offset the costs of a choice she said was none of our business when she can't afford to do it herself?

Do you support taxpayers being forced to fund the choice a woman makes to have children she can't afford? If you do, explain how something that we're told is none of our business suddenly becomes our responsibility when the one telling us to butt out can't afford what SHE chose to do.

 

[CFM]

Your neighbor is supporting your wife's tits while you are at work

Funny thing is my wife is right next to me while I'm at home.

So sad you're such a failure boy.

 

[Legion Troll]

its called common moral decency rights. What if a person you'll never know or meet secretly has a slave. What iron in the fire do you have to stop them?

Wow.

By "common moral decency right", you mean right-wing Christian ideology, don't you?

Stay on topic, or this thread will be moved to the war zone, where you will find all threads that devolve to back and forth insults.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Hypothetically if you didn't get kick out of the military and used your gi Bill. Would you be more educated

since i'm exponentially more intelligent than you, this is doubtful

 

[SmarterthanYou]

its called common moral decency

where is the common moral decency to engage in reckless acts that could cause children when one can't afford them?

 

[Stelakh]

At least you provide a real scenario to the argument. Rape/incest is a much more plausible legal argument for obtaining an abortion. In the past, prior to Roe, most states had a rape clause that allowed women of assault to obtain an abortion.

Are you advocating that abortions in cases of rape/incest would be OK with you? I'd be OK with allowing abortion in these instances to be a state issue, as it once was.

Yes, I am absolutely advocating that abortion be legal in the case of rape/incest. And no, I do not believe that should be a matter for states to decide, because you would eventually wind up with the Texas matter that has been mentioned in this forum already.

For those not familiar with it: Texas Republican Senator Matt Schaefer put forward an Amendment that would "...prohibit the performance of an abortion at the facility on the basis that the fetus has a severe and irreversible abnormality...".

His reasoning? Get this: Suffering is “part of the human condition, since sin entered the world.”

So because he believes we should suffer due to sin entering the world, he would have women carry a pregnancy to term even if the fetus is dead, has severe, irreversible abnormalities, or is the result of rape.

And that is why instead of relying on the states to handle something so deeply personal you make it Federal, so everyone is treated equally.

Imagine being a woman who is pregnant due to rape and having to either travel hundreds of miles out-of-state to get an abortion, or to not be able to get the abortion at all.

That is an unconscionable burden on both the woman and society.

I will also say that I do not advocate for abortion as a form of birth control. There are contraceptives for that.

But in the end, if the decision to abort a fetus does not affect me, then I have no right to force someone else to my way of thinking as it is simply not my decision to make.

 

[Stelakh]

If a woman I've never met, will never meet, or have no chance of meeting makes a choice of having a child she can't afford, what iron does she have in the fire to expect the rest of us to offset the costs of a choice she said was none of our business when she can't afford to do it herself?

Not on topic. Moving on.

Now, force me to answer. What's that? You can't. I know.

 

[The Dude]

Funny thing is my wife is right next to me while I'm at home.

So sad you're such a failure boy.

Can you read I said while you are at work
She is a slut
You pussy Boy

 

[J Craft]

where is the common moral decency to engage in reckless acts that could cause children when one can't afford them?

Irresponsible behavior is amoral, not understanding your question?

 

[The Dude]

where is the common moral decency to engage in reckless acts that could cause children when one can't afford them?

You know about immoral acts reject

 

[J Craft]

Yes, I am absolutely advocating that abortion be legal in the case of rape/incest. And no, I do not believe that should be a matter for states to decide, because you would eventually wind up with the Texas matter that has been mentioned in this forum already.

For those not familiar with it: Texas Republican Senator Matt Schaefer put forward an Amendment that would "...prohibit the performance of an abortion at the facility on the basis that the fetus has a severe and irreversible abnormality...".

His reasoning? Get this: Suffering is “part of the human condition, since sin entered the world.”

So because he believes we should suffer due to sin entering the world, he would have women carry a pregnancy to term even if the fetus is dead, has severe, irreversible abnormalities, or is the result of rape.

And that is why instead of relying on the states to handle something so deeply personal you make it Federal, so everyone is treated equally.

Imagine being a woman who is pregnant due to rape and having to either travel hundreds of miles out-of-state to get an abortion, or to not be able to get the abortion at all.

That is an unconscionable burden on both the woman and society.

I will also say that I do not advocate for abortion as a form of birth control. There are contraceptives for that.

But in the end, if the decision to abort a fetus does not affect me, then I have no right to force someone else to my way of thinking as it is simply not my decision to make.

A good thing it is that we can have laws that protect us from the cold indifferences of fellow citizens "if it doesn't affect me personally, than why should I care" would result in all kinds of laws repealed. Until of course it does affect you personally.

The assumption prior to Roe was that killing an unborn child was immoral and wrong. Laws assumed life, even in the womb, deserved protection.