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[evince]

Then I am not any less or more to blame for what happened in 2008 than you are Vietnam, right? It doesn't matter as long as your principles, morals, and values are strong enough so that you don't commit crimes or defraud others. If I worked at a bank and someone wanted a loan I wouldn't approve it if they didn't qualify just so I or that company can make extra cash. I'm not greedy and I have my core principles. From what i've read and heard about that bank stuff what happened to alot of people was wrong and shouldn't have happened. There are probably a lot or republicans and democrats to blame for it as well as many non affiliated people in the business world and banking system. To me, wrong is wrong, my party affiliation doesn't decide that for me.

it was deregulation of the banks that caused it



it is not a unknown quantity




your party fought for decades to deregulate the banks and got it done then the whole thing turned into the very mess we told you it would.


It is the fault fo right wing platform ideas

 

[Norah]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Clause


Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads".[1]






The Postal Clause was added to the Constitution to facilitate interstate communication as well as to create a source of revenue for the early United States.[2][3] There were some early disagreements as to the boundaries of the Postal Power. John Jay, in a letter to George Washington, opined that the postal service should not be burdened with the responsibility for handling newspaper delivery, and also suggested that the Post Office be placed under the supervision of the executive branch (a suggestion which later led to the creation of the Post Office Department).[4] Thomas Jefferson feared that the postal service would become a source of patronage and a waste of money. Jefferson also expressed doubt at granting Congress the power to designate post roads, as he considered road building to be a state responsibility.[5]

Based on that it looks like to me that it's unnecessary now and also that Jefferson was right

 

[evince]

I'm simply saying that the post office does not make profit, uses tax dollars to fund it, and is less efficient and reliable than private businesses. I'd be fine with it going away.

prove it


it is not designed to make money


its designed to deliver mail


you get to know EVERYTHING they do



you don't get to know about all themistakes any Business makes huh


they don't have to tell you

so in your ignorance you claim they are perfect

 

[Norah]

it was deregulation of the banks that caused it



it is not a unknown quantity




your party fought for decades to deregulate the banks and got it done then the whole thing turned into the very mess we told you it would.


It is the fault fo right wing platform ideas

Banks should not be a government run institution either in my opinion, and if a bank is doing unethical things then there should be consequences at the state level and people should take their money out and invest it in a credit union or different bank. We as a people can do more to right a bank than a government can simply by taking action and standing on principle, and hurting their profit.

 

[evince]

Based on that it looks like to me that it's unnecessary now and also that Jefferson was right

and guess who disagreed with you?



ALL THE OTHER FOUNDERS

 

[Norah]

prove it


it is not designed to make money


its designed to deliver mail


you get to know EVERYTHING they do



you don't get to know about all themistakes any Business makes huh


they don't have to tell you

so in your ignorance you claim they are perfect

Why fund something that is less efficient and less reliable than private companies like UPS and Fedex? Why put billions of dollars towards something that isn't necessary anymore?

 

[Norah]

and guess who disagreed with you?



ALL THE OTHER FOUNDERS

Well no, not all. Jefferson mentioned that he would prefer it be at the state level. I agree.

 

[evince]

Banks should not be a government run institution either in my opinion, and if a bank is doing unethical things then there should be consequences at the state level and people should take their money out and invest it in a credit union or different bank. We as a people can do more to right a bank than a government can simply by taking action and standing on principle, and hurting their profit.

how can Iowa police an international bank?

 

[evince]

Well no, not all. Jefferson mentioned that he would prefer it be at the state level. I agree.

so you don't agree with the constitution

 

[evince]

Why fund something that is less efficient and less reliable than private companies like UPS and Fedex? Why put billions of dollars towards something that isn't necessary anymore?

you are lying


prove your claim with FACTS

 

[Norah]

how can Iowa police an international bank?

They can file law suits sure, they can pass laws that would apply in Iowa too, and the people can stop doing business with that bank in Iowa as well. The federal government isn't always the answer.

 

[Norah]

so you don't agree with the constitution

Not that clause no, I would amend it.

 

[Norah]

you are lying


prove your claim with FACTS

I am not lying I am giving an opinion. Please do not start with that or I will end this conversation.

 

[evince]

1. I'm not sure which states you are talking about so if you could list them then I would appreciate that, and also which bank issue you are talking about.
2. I'm not asking for completely unfettered markets since there would still be state regulation. The problem with government owned anything is that it is often times never funded correctly or well, it's inefficient, and it's not constitutional in many respects.
3. Which founders? Some of the founders have different points of view. Bernie Sanders would not have been aligned with founders such as Jefferson or Madison for example, and when it comes to the post office in most cases UPS and Fedex work much better which in my opinion justifies their function as a private company over government sponsored and maintained mail and would reduce the cost of funding through taxes if the post office were eliminated.

Also for me personally I would side with the US constitution and the states before I would side with the republican party or a strong central government led by whichever party has that power.

you lied about siding with the constitution

 

[evince]

I have to be able to point out lies



you can no force me to just accept lies

 

[Norah]

you lied about siding with the constitution

In what way?

 

[evince]

Not that clause no, I would amend it.

so you are not a strict constructionist anymore all of the sudden?

 

[evince]

"I would side with the US constitution and the states before I would side with the republican party or a strong central government led by whichever party "


yet you want to strip the constitution of what the founders decided for your partys sake

 

[Norah]

so you are not a strict constructionist anymore all of the sudden?

Being a constitutionalist does not mean that you oppose amending it. Amending the constitution IS constitutional. Bypassing the amendment process is not though which is what we typically do now it seems.

 

[Norah]

"I would side with the US constitution and the states before I would side with the republican party or a strong central government led by whichever party "


yet you want to strip the constitution of what the founders decided for your partys sake

I would amend it, which is constitutional, and I dont need the republican party to tell me that the post office is unnecessary.