North Carolina Passes Law Blocking Measures To Protect LGBT People

[christiefan915]

and a gay person can simply not ask for a wedding cake then, for they are exactly the same.....the person being discriminated is being asked to not 'exercise' a right.

the ONLY reason you need to keep them different is so YOU can discriminate against certain groups.

It's dishonest to measure every instance of race or gender discrimination against gun possession. This is about someone's genetics, not their possessions.

I understand gun rights are your default position, just like abortion is for others. But that's not what's at stake in NC.

 

[christiefan915]

if it is a legal sign, then yes. I try to respect peoples private property rights.

Are you okay with stores that have signs saying "no shoes, no shirt, no service"? How about "no backpacks"? How about "only two teens may enter at one time"? I've seen all these signs here.

 

[Legion Troll]

Have any transgender people claimed they'll "kill all they send" if the police enforce this unconstitutional law?

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It's dishonest to measure every instance of race or gender discrimination against gun possession. This is about someone's genetics, not their possessions.

it's about the right of a person to act freely. the right of a person to be gay, or the right of a person to carry a gun.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Are you okay with stores that have signs saying "no shoes, no shirt, no service"? How about "no backpacks"? How about "only two teens may enter at one time"? I've seen all these signs here.

i'm ok with all of that. it is the rightful property of the person making the exclusions. I also have the right to take my business elsewhere.

 

[RockX]

Are you okay with stores that have signs saying "no shoes, no shirt, no service"? How about "no backpacks"? How about "only two teens may enter at one time"? I've seen all these signs here.

Yes, keeps the homeless, losers, shoplifters, and general low lifes out of stores..... I see you have never owned a business that has had to deal with the scum.

 

[christiefan915]

Yes, keeps the homeless, losers, shoplifters, and general low lifes out of stores..... I see you have never owned a business that has had to deal with the scum.

If I owned a business I wouldn't call the customers "scum."

 

[Legion Troll]

If I owned a business I wouldn't call the customers "scum."

People who own businesses and call their customers "scum" probably aren't in business long.

 

[NOVA]

Why is it okay to discriminate against some classes of people but not others?

Its not okay....thats why no one needs 'special' protections only for them.....

 

[christiefan915]

Its not okay....thats why no one needs 'special' protections only for them.....

You guys keep calling it "special" protections instead of "equal" protections.

 

[christiefan915]

i'm ok with all of that. it is the rightful property of the person making the exclusions. I also have the right to take my business elsewhere.

Above you said you were being discriminated against if you couldn't carry your gun into a store.

 

[Legion Troll]

Above you said you were being discriminated against if you couldn't carry your gun into a store.

And doesn't the NC law affect public restrooms?

 

[christiefan915]

And doesn't the NC law affect public restrooms?

Yes. "One word dominated the debate over the bill and the Charlotte ordinance before it: "bathroom."

 

[Legion Troll]

Yes. "One word dominated the debate over the bill and the Charlotte ordinance before it: "bathroom."

If that's so, SmarterthanFews' "private property rights" argument wouldn't apply, would it?

 

[NOVA]

You guys keep calling it "special" protections instead of "equal" protections.

Every citizen is supposed to already have the same protections under the law.....anything that affects only a particular group is 'special treatment'......

is that a better phrase ?

Aren't the rights of conservatives being trampled on as we speak....free speech, free association, public gathering, etc. Chalk on a college sidewalk is being attacked.....
Yet you aren't talking about that.....ha...

 

[christiefan915]

If that's so, SmarterthanFews' "private property rights" argument wouldn't apply, would it?

Nope.

 

[Celticguy]

You guys keep calling it "special" protections instead of "equal" protections.

Because it's unequal.

 

[christiefan915]

Every citizen is supposed to already have the same protections under the law.....anything that affects only a particular group is 'special treatment'......

is that a better phrase ?

Aren't the rights of conservatives being trampled on as we speak....free speech, free association, public gathering, etc. Chalk on a college sidewalk is being attacked.....
Yet you aren't talking about that.....ha...

Are you familiar with the phrase separate but equal?

Monitoring bathroom usage is not equal treatment.

 

[Legion Troll]

At least the cops in NC are putting people in jail for failure to return a VHS tape.......in 2003.

I guess they have time to check out people's junk.

 

[christiefan915]

At least the cops in NC are putting people in jail for failure to return a VHS tape.......in 2003.

I guess they have time to check out people's junk.

What drives me nuts is the immediate judgment that people using these bathrooms could be sexual predators. That being transgender links to sexual crime. Maybe I'm naive but that seems illogical.