Save Ohio Trump runs the Republican table today.

Jarod said:
The fact is that TPP did not get overturned. The fact is that HRC is currently against it, but we know where she truly stands, as long as she can win and support it she will. It is progress, I am not happy about how slow the progress is, but its progress. It is better than an unholy alliance with those who use God and religion for political gain.
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So Zappa, you're on the free trade train now?
 
reason10 said:
Let's see.

How about the continued existence of Obamacare, (which the GOP freshman class ran on OVERTURNING.)?

How about that last budget deal that strips money from the military and expands the welfare state and costs a couple of TRILLION?

How about AMNESTY for ILLEGAL ALIENS?

How about allowing Planned Parenthood to traffic in human body parts, FINANCED BY OUR FUCKING TAX DOLLARS?

Think the average rank and file taxpayer isn't pissed about that? There are 100 MILLION people unemployed today. Food stamp use is at an all time high. Wages are low. Jobs are disappearing. America is a laughingstock of the world. And with us about $20 trillion in the hole, Obama just HANDED A FUCKING TERRORIST REGIME (IRAN) A COOL $150 BILLION to buy whatever weapons they want and to finance whatever terrorism they want. And the GOP did NOTHING to stop it.

We gave the GOP control of Congress and they broke their promises. Trump is their last chance.
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Ok, let's go through them.

1) Obamacare - How do you expect Obamacare to overturned 1) without a super majority in the Senate because the Democrats sure aren't voting to overturn it and 2) with Obama still in office because he sure isn't going to sign legislation overturning it

2) the last budget stripped money from the military? If you're complaining about the cost of the budget yet don't support touching entitlements or the military then you're not serious about cutting spending

3) immigration reform - as long as laws stay the same not a lot is going to change

4) Planned Parenthood - so we're going to show the GOP how pissed off we are about PP by backing a guy who donated money to them?


I feel dirty here coming across as supporting the GOP Congress because they don't deserve support. Many of them brought this on themselves by making promises they knew they couldn't keep. Many of them also had no desire to do a budget deal with Obama so we kept the status quo which is equivalent to cut your nose to spite your face.

But it's interesting to see you complain about the above and then say you support Trump. Trump isn't cutting spending. Trump supports PP. Trump has no clue what he's doing on health care. Trump is really no different than the GOP Congress, making a bunch of promises he either can't or won't keep.
 
cawacko said:
2) the last budget stripped money from the military? If you're complaining about the cost of the budget yet don't support touching entitlements or the military then you're not serious about cutting spending
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Hooray for this. I keep hearing Trump & the other GOPers talk about the $19 trillion deficit and reducing spending, and then say that they're going to add money to the biggest budget item that we have.

We can have a strong military & still be smart about the budget money allocated for it. It's run so poorly right now, and has been for many years.
 
Jarod said:
I doubt they care...

But the damage that has been done to the Conservative movement is likely going to be long lasting. Mostly I think its a good thing and will ultimately result in some long term progress on the liberal side. Maybe even more if Trump becomes President.

The Conservative movement has some positive and I am sorry to lose that at the cost of xenophobia, racism and nationalism.
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I think it is cute when you try to act like you know what you are talking about. Kind like watching a baby trying to walk for the first time.
 
Treason10 said:
Let's see.

How about the continued existence of Obamacare, (which the GOP freshman class ran on OVERTURNING.)?

How about that last budget deal that strips money from the military and expands the welfare state and costs a couple of TRILLION?

How about AMNESTY for ILLEGAL ALIENS?

How about allowing Planned Parenthood to traffic in human body parts, FINANCED BY OUR FUCKING TAX DOLLARS?

Think the average rank and file taxpayer isn't pissed about that? There are 100 MILLION people unemployed today. Food stamp use is at an all time high. Wages are low. Jobs are disappearing. America is a laughingstock of the world. And with us about $20 trillion in the hole, Obama just HANDED A FUCKING TERRORIST REGIME (IRAN) A COOL $150 BILLION to buy whatever weapons they want and to finance whatever terrorism they want. And the GOP did NOTHING to stop it.

We gave the GOP control of Congress and they broke their promises. Trump is their last chance.
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You are retarded.
 
Jarod said:
I have told you why, its an alliance with Labor. Its purely self gain and not nationalism or xenophobia, its greed.

Its Nationalism and Xenophobia when its done by using fear of people who are different to inflame emotions. Its greed when its done by using money to promote loyalty.
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Is asking the government to enforce its own immigration laws, xenophobic or nationalism?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Is asking the government to enforce its own immigration laws, xenophobic or nationalism?
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To people like GayRod who belongs to a party that needs a steady stream of uneducated unskilled voters so they stay in power.

What is odd is why GayRod thinks it is in his best interests to gin up all this resentment of minorities while simultaneously recruiting more of them. I guess thinks the crocodile will eat him last
 
Jarod said:
Depends on the reason behind the request.
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So you don't see a problem with a President ignoring the law?

It really isn't supposed to matter whether you agree with the law.

Now I am sure you are going to come up with some silly example like "what if there is a law legalizing murder" or "slavery". But you get my point.
 
reason10 said:
What you have accidentally swerved into is the fact that Trump is more than just the next president. He is America's reaction and probable REJECTION of the establishment Republican Party. After, these bozos were given Congress and they didn't stop the KENYAN SHOESHINE BOY from butt fucking our economy and making us the laughingstock of the world.

Trump is as much a slap in the face to the establishment GOP as he is a rejection of Nazi Democrats.
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I think this comment perfectly represents Trump's voter base. Frankly, I think the nation would be better off without people such as this. Supporting Trump should mean an immediate revocation of your citizenship.
 
cawacko said:
What did the Republican led Congress let Obama accomplish after 2010 that you disagree with?
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The fact is that there's not much the Republicans could do with Obama in office. The Republicans made promises they couldn't keep, the base got angry and somehow believed that if the Republican congress became more obstinate it would've made up for the fact that they don't control the executive. This is clearly ridiculous and delusional. Ideology should not be put above the interests of the nation, but that's what rightists demand.
 
I Love America said:
So you don't see a problem with a President ignoring the law?

It really isn't supposed to matter whether you agree with the law.

Now I am sure you are going to come up with some silly example like "what if there is a law legalizing murder" or "slavery". But you get my point.
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It happens all the time, the president sets priorities and budgets for enforcement of different areas of the law. Federal marijuana possession laws are not enforced. During Republican administrations antitrust laws are barely enforced. White collar crime budgets at the FBI are cut drastically.

You think this is something new, because its currently a Republican talking point, but its been going on for generations.
 
Jarod said:
I have told you why, its an alliance with Labor. Its purely self gain and not nationalism or xenophobia, its greed.

Its Nationalism and Xenophobia when its done by using fear of people who are different to inflame emotions. Its greed when its done by using money to promote loyalty.
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America needs patriotic, American loving nationalism to unify it. However, Trump's pseudo-nationalism is divisive and deeply anti-American, bent on rooting out and suppressing patriotic American citizens who happen to be minorities. Pseudo-nationalists are traitors who hate America and Americans.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think Trump stands no chance in the general election. People either see through him or they don't. He already has all of the votes of those who don't, and it's not even close to enough.

GOP voters are handing the election to Hillary. Conservatives will really regret not supporting one of the other candidates, who were pretty good candidates.
 
Jarod said:
Depends on the reason behind the request.
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It's a natural part of executive prerogative, the president has the right to decide how much he's going to prioritize or deprioritize enforcement of individual laws. Obviously an equal amount of attention cannot be devoted to enforcement of each and every letter of the law, and there are even some forgotten blue laws that it wouldn't be desirable to enforce at all. But rightists believe that failure to prioritize enforcement in the way they believe is best is somehow treason. It's ridiculous.
 
Jarod said:
My daughter and I voted this morning.

She wanted me to vote for O'Malley, (She's five and just said "the middle one") but I voted for Sanders.
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The FEMNAZI's are going to take away your mangina for voting for Sanders...
 
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