Iran launches ballistic missiles

I have news for you, Pakistan has over 100 nuclear warheads they are far more of a threat to world peace but I don't are you acknowledging that fact.
disagree. they have been in a long term shooting war with India over Kashmir and show no inclination to use nukes.
Plus they have the ISI - which is actually a moderating influence on their sometimes radical civilian government

It's true if the TTP Taliban even seized power -but they won't.. I agree Pakistan is extremely dangerous (Waziristan influence)
but they are not fundamentalist Islam -and to the best of my knowledge do not really practice apocalyptic Islam.

the Mideast is so much more instable. eventually the powers will get nukes, and then it's all on hair trigger.
 
well that's the thing,,they will eventually get nukes -they are making every effort to do so short of the actual enrichment.
So when this agreement runs out -they'll be ready.

But they were headed that way anyhow -so what did the agreement really do for us..
kick the can own the road (at best) as far as I can see..

Ithin k we might have done better limiting their regional hegemony but the agreement specifically wasn't linked
to anything else.

So what did it accomplish except give them a bunch of frozen money?
It wasn't so much it was a bad agreement, but it really doesn't serve our interests either.

Obama was poised on being the "peace president" he negotiated from a point of weakness. They knew he was desperate for a deal so he could cement his presidency as "the man who brought peace to the ME."

People with brains knew this was never going to happen.
 
I have news for you, Pakistan has over 100 nuclear warheads they are far more of a threat to world peace but I don't see you acknowledging that fact.

I am aware. Its not good the Paks have nukes either. But they are not as theocratic and radical as the Iranian leaders.
 
Obama was poised on being the "peace president" he negotiated from a point of weakness. They knew he was desperate for a deal so he could cement his presidency as "the man who brought peace to the ME."

People with brains knew this was never going to happen.
*peace to the mideast after bombing the stuffings out of Libya*.. yes it was his 'legacy building'
he's basically shut out of the ME now.
 
disagree. they have been in a long term shooting war with India over Kashmir and show no inclination to use nukes.
Plus they have the ISI - which is actually a moderating influence on their sometimes radical civilian government

It's true if the TTP Taliban even seized power -but they won't.. I agree Pakistan is extremely dangerous (Waziristan influence)
but they are not fundamentalist Islam -and to the best of my knowledge do not really practice apocalyptic Islam.

the Mideast is so much more instable. eventually the powers will get nukes, and then it's all on hair trigger.

I think the Iranians are significantly more rational than the Pakistani. Or the Saud's, or any of our other crazy allies for that matter.
 
Iran doesn't have quite the blood-feud with anyone (not even Iraq and Israel) to the extent that Pakistan has with India. It's also been significantly more stable over the past 20+ years.
 
I think the Iranians are significantly more rational than the Pakistani. Or the Saud's, or any of our other crazy allies for that matter.

it depends on what you mean as "rationalists", and they do not yet have nukes which is the topic.
You *groaned* the fact that Pakistan has been in a hot border war for years, yet using nukes was never a concern..

sauds are rational-they are upset about the Iran deal IN COMBINATION WITH Obama's feckless foreign policy in the Mideast.
We are not seen as reliable anymore; the Syrian red line did a lot of damage - but the way we left Iraq also.
They also (rightfully) see Iran getting away with hegemony + there was the sacking of the SA embassy by Iran.

Not that I am making a case for the Iraq war, or for using missiles on Assad; but the horrible way both were handled
show the US won't stick around when things get dicey.
 
Apparently not.

Not to mention is been proven that dropping the 2 A-bombs actually saved lives.

Demonstrate the proof.

Are you going to try to peddle the yarn that Israeli thermonuclear weapons are safe thermonuclear weapons ? Just exposing your logic to the reading public, you understand.

I guess so. I think he meant defenseless.

That's what I meant and that's what I said- defenceless
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/defenceless
 
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