Obama's MidEast Legacy

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anatta did vote for Obama and is voting for Sanders. Thank you for acknowledging how wrong he is and that Obama and Sanders voters do hate America.
 
Oh god. another one...what is your dysfunction? blind Democrat partisan or simply gross ignorance?

When anybody can put together any kind of an argument for Obama's Shrinking Presence in the region -please inform.

Note that power abhors a vacuum, and Russia fills that vacuum..

You simple fucktard;
We are not needed in the ME.
All our actions there have negative consequences for us.
Fuck offand die fool.
 
Oh god. another one...what is your dysfunction? blind Democrat partisan or simply gross ignorance?

When anybody can put together any kind of an argument for Obama's Shrinking Presence in the region -please inform.

Note that power abhors a vacuum, and Russia fills that vacuum..

Good, let them fill the vacuum and do the fighting! Let them be the target of the radicals.
 
you are hopelessly ignorant. BAC did in fact "blame Hillary" also Rice and Powers. I was on both boards with BAC -not you.
Bullshit. Cosby cancelled my account when I signed in from Darla's IP. BAC spoke up on my behalf. I have known him longer than I have known you and you are incorrect. BAC didn't exclusively blame HRC. That is all you.
I've known BAC back from the days at Rumbleville -and I know his positions well.
BAC lost interest in Libya after Qaddafi -I've followed it's diminution into a failed terrorist state.
But we both called that early - BAC and myself were partners on this during the 2011 Libyan war.

As to Hillary - you need to do the research. She was chief architect and advocate ( my claims) of the Libyan war.
Read the damn NYTimes piece that came out this weekend -->Hillary Clinton and a Dictator's Fall (NYT)

It had nothing to do with "Rothschild banks" -it had everything to do with Qaddafi wanting to issue a Pan-African currency
supplanting the French frank.

No I haven't supported "every GOP candidate" and even if I did -so what?
Did you conveniently forget my still continued support of sanders?

I've looked at all of them, and the only candidate I've ruled out is Hillary wjho is an incompetent warmonger.
Why don't you dismiss her? She's an an iinate interventionist -I thought you were Mr. Anti-war?

You are severely lacking in detail, critical thought, and abilities to integrate new ideas into a coherent concepts..
I've mentioned to you more then once "connect the dots" and you can't even do that.

Mostly you are not worth anything but complete ignoring, except when you bother to troll me an DJC, and here.
feel free to do so, but I'm going to smack down your lies, and show you up for the stupid troll you are when you do so.

PS.
I came back after the New Year - not Super Tuesday - Super Tuesday was this week - can you even read a calendar ????

Yeah and you have been busilly shilling against her all week.
You and BAC were not partners you ego-centric fool.
BAC is a man. You are a worm.
As to your incredible ignorance of central banks: LMFAO.
You don't even have a clue as to the real reason for Libya to be detroyed.
Best check with BAC fool.
He will explain central banks to you.
 
Yeah and you have been busilly shilling against her all week.
You and BAC were not partners you ego-centric fool.
BAC is a man. You are a worm.
As to your incredible ignorance of central banks: LMFAO.
You don't even have a clue as to the real reason for Libya to be detroyed.
Best check with BAC fool.
He will explain central banks to you.
Bullshit. Cosby cancelled my account when I signed in from Darla's IP. BAC spoke up on my behalf. I have known him longer than I have known you and you are incorrect. BAC didn't exclusively blame HRC. That is all you.
can you read?? BAC named Rice and Powers as well as Hillary.
But that was before her Emails releases the "tic toc on Libya" is especially damning. we are also finding out Rice's role was more out front..

Here's the money quote from the NYTimes article -which supports Hillary as chief advocate and architect..have you bothered to read it yet?
or do you prefer continued posting from a position of willful ignorance?

by NYTimes http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/us/politics/hillary-clinton-libya.html
Her conviction would be critical in persuading Mr. Obama to join allies in bombing Colonel Qaddafi’s forces.
In fact, Mr. Obama’s defense secretary, Robert M. Gates, would later say that in a “51-49” decision, it was Mrs. Clinton’s support that put the ambivalent president over the line.

The consequences would be more far-reaching than anyone imagined, leaving Libya a failed state and a terrorist haven....

now look on page 7 of my Libyan blog: 3rd post down - "tic toc on Libya" -i'll highlite the header here.
DCJunkies : Libyan Civil War 2014 -Present

Mills, Cheryl D <MillsCD@state.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 201112:37 PM
To:
Subject: FW: tick tock on libya

Jake Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuland, Victoria.)
Subject: tick tock on libya


this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S' (Clinton)
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish
let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?
Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya

HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.



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Both, and ALL sources point to Hillarys roles. Her own State Dept, as well as the NYTimes.
Obama's Defense DNI and military wanted no part of bombing Qadaffi; it was his White House NSC, that lined up for intervention.
And it was Hillarys international organization, and voice that tipped the scales.

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Do your homework Rune. You have been shown 2 resources to use.
You'll find out the neocolonialists ( as BAC was wont to call France ) was terrified of the negotiations with Qaddafi over oil,
as well as losing the French franc as currency union in N.Africa..
Nothing to do with "Rothchild's" - that is a misnomer in that Qaddafi had oil wealth in the name of the Libyan people.
 
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Oh god. another one...what is your dysfunction? blind Democrat partisan or simply gross ignorance?

When anybody can put together any kind of an argument for Obama's Shrinking Presence in the region -please inform.

Note that power abhors a vacuum, and Russia fills that vacuum..

Anyone who disagrees with you is either ignorant or a partisan.
Gee what does that make you? Loser
 
can you read?? BAC named Rice and Powers as well as Hillary.
But that was before her Emails releases the "tic toc on Libya" is especially damning. we are also finding out Rice's role was more out front..

Here's the money quote from the NYTimes article -which supports Hillary as chief advocate and architect..have you bothered to read it yet?
or do you prefer continued posting from a position of willful ignorance?



now look on page 7 of my Libyan blog: 3rd post down - "tic toc on Libya" -i'll highlite the header here.
DCJunkies : Libyan Civil War 2014 -Present

Mills, Cheryl D <MillsCD@state.gov>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 201112:37 PM
To:
Subject: FW: tick tock on libya

Jake Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:40 PM
To: Mills, Cheryl D; Nuland, Victoria.)
Subject: tick tock on libya


this is basically off the top of my head, with a few consultations of my notes. but it shows S' (Clinton)
leadership/ownership/stewardship of this country's libya policy from start to finish
let me know what you
think. toria, who else might be able to add to this?
Secretary Clinton's leadership on Libya

HRC has been a critical voice on Libya in administration deliberations, at NATO, and in contact group
meetings — as well as the public face of the U.S. effort in Libya. She was instrumental in securing the
authorization, building the coalition, and tightening the noose around Qadhafi and his regime.



++

Both, and ALL sources point to Hillarys roles. Her own State Dept, as well as the NYTimes.
Obama's Defense DNI and military wanted no part of bombing Qadaffi; it was his White House NSC, that lined up for intervention.
And it was Hillarys international organization, and voice that tipped the scales.

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Do your homework Rune. You have been shown 2 resources to use.
You'll find out the neocolonialists ( as BAC was wont to call France ) was terrified of the negotiations with Qaddafi over oil,
as well as losing the French franc as currency union in N.Africa..
Nothing to do with "Rothchild's" - that is a misnomer in that Qaddafi had oil wealth in the name of the Libyan people.

Prove it.
Prove that the fact that Libya was the only oil producing country in the world without a central bank (until now)
had nothing to do with toppling Gaddafi
Furthermore, shit fer brains, your blog isn't a source of facts. Fucking idiot, your opinion isn't factual.
 
Prove it.
Prove that the fact that Libya was the only oil producing country in the world without a central bank (until now)
had nothing to do with toppling Gaddafi
Furthermore, shit fer brains, your blog isn't a source of facts. Fucking idiot, your opinion isn't factual.

ya' moronic Viking..what is my blog but source material mixed in with analysis??
The 2 aren't inseparable -that's how people come up with POLICIES - you use source material
and you ANALYZE it for courses of action/diplomacy/whatever..

Else the source material is dead ( not used)
Else the analysis is based on speculation....can you grasp any of this???
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Analyze this you chowder head: what conclusions do you come to? stop harping on me to do your reaseach and
for once in your miserable posting life come up with your own ideas..

The Threat of Libya’s Oil and Gold to French Interests -
Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...ls-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/

Though the French-proposed U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 claimed the no-fly zone implemented over Libya was to protect civilians, an April 2011 email [archived here http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com.../01/110402-France-client-gold-State-Dept.pdf]
sent to Hillary with the subject line “France’s client and Qaddafi’s gold” tells of less noble ambitions.

The email identifies French President Nicholas Sarkozy as leading the attack on Libya with five specific purposes in mind: to obtain Libyan oil, ensure French influence in the region, increase Sarkozy’s reputation domestically, assert French military power, and to prevent Gaddafi’s influence in what is considered “Francophone Africa.”

Most astounding is the lengthy section delineating the huge threat that Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves, estimated at “143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver,” posed to the French franc (CFA) circulating as a prime African currency. In place of the noble sounding “Responsibility to Protect” (R2P) doctrine fed to the public, there is this “confidential” explanation of what was really driving the war [emphasis mine]:

This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc (CFA).

(Source Comment: According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began,
and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy’s decision to commit France to the attack on Libya.)

Though this internal email aims to summarize the motivating factors driving France’s (and by implication NATO’s) intervention in Libya, it is interesting to note that saving civilian lives is conspicuously absent from the briefing.

Instead, the great fear reported is that Libya might lead North Africa into a high degree of economic independence with a new pan-African currency.

French intelligence “discovered” a Libyan initiative to freely compete with European currency through a local alternative, and this had to be subverted through military aggression
 
ya' moronic Viking..what is my blog but source material mixed in with analysis??
The 2 aren't inseparable -that's how people come up with POLICIES - you use source material
and you ANALYZE it for courses of action/diplomacy/whatever..

Else the source material is dead ( not used)
Else the analysis is based on speculation....can you grasp any of this???
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Analyze this you chowder head: what conclusions do you come to? stop harping on me to do your reaseach and
for once in your miserable posting life come up with your own ideas..

The Threat of Libya’s Oil and Gold to French Interests -
Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention
http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...ls-reveal-true-motive-for-libya-intervention/

Though the French-proposed U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973 claimed the no-fly zone implemented over Libya was to protect civilians, an April 2011 email [archived here http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com.../01/110402-France-client-gold-State-Dept.pdf]
sent to Hillary with the subject line “France’s client and Qaddafi’s gold” tells of less noble ambitions.

The email identifies French President Nicholas Sarkozy as leading the attack on Libya with five specific purposes in mind: to obtain Libyan oil, ensure French influence in the region, increase Sarkozy’s reputation domestically, assert French military power, and to prevent Gaddafi’s influence in what is considered “Francophone Africa.”

Most astounding is the lengthy section delineating the huge threat that Gaddafi’s gold and silver reserves, estimated at “143 tons of gold, and a similar amount in silver,” posed to the French franc (CFA) circulating as a prime African currency. In place of the noble sounding “Responsibility to Protect” (R2P) doctrine fed to the public, there is this “confidential” explanation of what was really driving the war [emphasis mine]:

This gold was accumulated prior to the current rebellion and was intended to be used to establish a pan-African currency based on the Libyan golden Dinar. This plan was designed to provide the Francophone African Countries with an alternative to the French franc (CFA).

(Source Comment: According to knowledgeable individuals this quantity of gold and silver is valued at more than $7 billion. French intelligence officers discovered this plan shortly after the current rebellion began,
and this was one of the factors that influenced President Nicolas Sarkozy’s decision to commit France to the attack on Libya.)

Though this internal email aims to summarize the motivating factors driving France’s (and by implication NATO’s) intervention in Libya, it is interesting to note that saving civilian lives is conspicuously absent from the briefing.

Instead, the great fear reported is that Libya might lead North Africa into a high degree of economic independence with a new pan-African currency.

French intelligence “discovered” a Libyan initiative to freely compete with European currency through a local alternative, and this had to be subverted through military aggression

Now we are getting somewhere.

From the above;
Hillary is never mentioned.
A country with one of the first 5 central banks (Rothschild)
advocated the destruction of a soveriegn nation (with no cental bank)to protect it's banking industry.

Thank you very much and may I point out my amusement that you think it is I that cannot connect the dots.
I couldn't have proven how wrong you are any bettet than you did.

The real reasons behind Libya; banking issues.
The true architect; Sarkosy.
Now shut the fuck up; your stupidity bores me.
 
Now we are getting somewhere.

From the above;
Hillary is never mentioned.
A country with one of the first 5 central banks (Rothschild)
advocated the destruction of a soveriegn nation (with no cental bank)to protect it's banking industry.

Thank you very much and may I point out my amusement that you think it is I that cannot connect the dots.
I couldn't have proven how wrong you are any bettet than you did.

The real reasons behind Libya; banking issues.
The true architect; Sarkosy.
Now shut the fuck up; your stupidity bores me.
Good! you are getting a clues!
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Sarkozy had his own motivations for France: what was the motivation for the USA to join in a "no Fly?"
It wasn't "humanitarian war" - that was but one excuse sold by the NTC's Jibril to Clinton in Paris
Supposedly Qaddafi was ready to decimate civilians in Bengazi - in fact he offered safe passage for civilians
as well as the NTC if they laid down their arms.

Clinton bought in to this, and refused to take Qaddafi's son phone call offering a negotiated settlement
AFTER she convinced Obama to go all in on bombing Qaddafi ( surpassing a "no fly" UN Resolution to "protect civilians")..

There is more -but you'd have to read the NYTimes piece (at least)..until you can connect the dots you are simply
sputtering out random talking points.
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No there was nothing about Rothschilds banks about any of this. Qaddafi was a threat to French interests ..pure and simple
The whole shooting match was a pack of lies and 1/2 truths cobbled together..
My personal opinion was it was a reaction by Obama to his absence of condemning the Green Revolution's travestys
by the Iranians.. but that is simply my opinion,,nothing to back that up.
 
Foreign Policy Journal


February 14 at 7:58am ·
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Donald Trump is right, of course. There was no intelligence failure leading up to the Iraq war. They just lied.








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geee I wonder who they want to win the election
 
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