problems at the polls

I Love America said:
How is having an ID an obstacle?

Should non citizens be allowed to vote?

Since we have 30 million illegals shouldn't we keep them from voting?
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I voted today and showing my ID wasn't an obstacle. It was easy. The little lady working the polls asked for it and I gladly provided it.
 
NOVA said:
You must have missed posts 14, 15, 16......its records of dozens of miscreants and I can post many more......so its hardly a 'low number'....and even one is one too many....

One cheater means YOUR vote is useless.....People fraudulently registered should not be allowed to vote.....
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People like Mott and evince are willing to accept known fraud as long as it's not to a level where they have a problem.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yeah well Desh did something she rarely does here. She pwned your punk asses with some facts.

She's right. Voter fraud is not a significant problem. She proved it to you. 86 convictions for voter fraud in 5 years. That's a whopping 0.000016% of eligible voters. It's not significant.
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That's 86 too many. That's significant where you are willing to accept fraud or not.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
That's what I figured, seeing as how it takes very little time and I'm not sure how it's wasting any tax money.
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Actually, they didn't have to ask. I handed them my voter registration and driver's license at the same time. The person checking my information took no longer today than any time in the past before the laws were in place.
 
no biggie for the primary today.....Republicans know how to get photo IDs.......may be a problem Tuesday when the Dems vote.....maybe the Dems can hire Repubs to teach them how to vote......
 
As an election judge I have watched the validation of elections turn to nothing at all in CO. People register online with no signatures, all of our ballots are mail in ballots. In the last election "undeliverable" ballots were found in the mail rooms of apartment buildings, on one news show we watched a democrat talking to the CO DNC chair asking if she should take the ballots and vote "for" these people... and was told "maybe somebody should"....

With no ability to verify signatures, ballots being "delivered" to mail rooms with no recipients, and then sudden "found" ballots in Denver we wind up with amazing election results.

With the current rules somebody can, with no repercussion, go to the next county and "register" to vote and vote immediately following it. The only check would be to find a real address and fake an electric bill. With SSN checks totally worthless as the FEDS simply refuse to give the lists to verify SSN to name as they are supposed to (and lost a lawsuit regarding) they cannot even clear fraudulent voters from the rolls.

The reality is, the democrats have passed laws that codify their particular form of voter fraud. You can't check, you can't clear them from the roles, there is no signature matching, there is nothing.

Saying that there is no problem at all and we should not be allowed to verify the validity of votes is insane. If only to ensure that people feel their votes count there is enough reason to pass reasonable checks.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yeah well Desh did something she rarely does here. She pwned your punk asses with some facts.

She's right. Voter fraud is not a significant problem. She proved it to you. 86 convictions for voter fraud in 5 years. That's a whopping 0.000016% of eligible voters. It's not significant.
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see

even when I'm completely correct you fucking lie about me


what the fuck is wrong with n the left on this site?



I have been proven correct by the facts over and over and you just fucking lie and dis me



the left on this site does nothing but shit on each other.


Christy and a few others are the exception
 
Damocles said:
As an election judge I have watched the validation of elections turn to nothing at all in CO. People register online with no signatures, all of our ballots are mail in ballots. In the last election "undeliverable" ballots were found in the mail rooms of apartment buildings, on one news show we watched a democrat talking to the CO DNC chair asking if she should take the ballots and vote "for" these people... and was told "maybe somebody should"....

With no ability to verify signatures, ballots being "delivered" to mail rooms with no recipients, and then sudden "found" ballots in Denver we wind up with amazing election results.

With the current rules somebody can, with no repercussion, go to the next county and "register" to vote and vote immediately following it. The only check would be to find a real address and fake an electric bill. With SSN checks totally worthless as the FEDS simply refuse to give the lists to verify SSN to name as they are supposed to (and lost a lawsuit regarding) they cannot even clear fraudulent voters from the rolls.

The reality is, the democrats have passed laws that codify their particular form of voter fraud. You can't check, you can't clear them from the roles, there is no signature matching, there is nothing.

Saying that there is no problem at all and we should not be allowed to verify the validity of votes is insane. If only to ensure that people feel their votes count there is enough reason to pass reasonable checks.
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Old MASH episode: Various "kim luc" villagers keep showing up with the same ID card to be treated by the MASH unit.

"Are you Kim Luc?" Hawkeye asks? "this is me" they all say
 
evince said:
When South Carolinians cast ballots in the presidential primaries, they will confront a new voter ID law that is in place for the first time during a presidential election year.

Nikki Haley signed the state's voter ID law in 2011, and after a legal battle with the feds, it became effective in January 2013.

As Republicans get ready to vote, Haley's administration has not adequately educated South Carolinians about the requirements.

In fact, the governor has been criticized for exaggerating the law’s strictness.

Haley suggested that ID is necessary to vote, the same way it is on an airplane.

A state election commission poster, which a spokesman confirmed is distributed to all polling places, says in large letters: "Photo ID requirements now in effect."

But ID isn't mandatory if you don't have one.

The poster only says that in small print.

There's another important provision in small print.

If a voter has a photo ID and forgot it, he or she may only cast a provisional ballot, which will not count unless the person brings the ID to the county elections office in time, which in the case of a presidential primary, is the following Thursday.

"To just focus on that single poster just isn't fair," said Chris Whitmire, director of public information and training for the South Carolina State Election Commission.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/south-carolina-voter-id-law_us_56c7669fe4b041136f16d9d8
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you lie to keep Americas from voting
 
evince said:
In 5-Year Effort, Scant Evidence of Voter Fraud


By ERIC LIPTON and IAN URBINAAPRIL 12, 2007



WASHINGTON, April 11 — Five years after the Bush administration began a crackdown on voter fraud, the Justice Department has turned up virtually no evidence of any organized effort to skew federal elections, according to court records and interviews.




Although Republican activists have repeatedly said fraud is so widespread that it has corrupted the political process and, possibly, cost the party election victories, about 120 people have been charged and 86 convicted as of last year.




Most of those charged have been Democrats, voting records show. Many of those charged by the Justice Department appear to have mistakenly filled out registration forms or misunderstood eligibility rules, a review of court records and interviews with prosecutors and defense lawyers show.

In Miami, an assistant United States attorney said many cases there involved what were apparently mistakes by immigrants, not fraud.


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Panel Said to Alter Finding on Voter FraudAPRIL 11, 2007


In Wisconsin, where prosecutors have lost almost twice as many cases as they won, charges were brought against voters who filled out more than one registration form and felons seemingly unaware that they were barred from voting.
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you smear American voters with fucking lies
 
evince said:
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-10-25/news/mn-7435_1_republican-national-committee




GOP Memo Admits Plan Could 'Keep Black Vote Down'

October 25, 1986|From the Washington Post

NEWARK, N.J. — A Republican National Committee official calculated that a so-called ballot security program in Louisiana "could keep the black vote down considerably," according to documents released in federal court Friday.

The documents and court hearing were the latest developments in a controversy over the GOP's ballot program that Democrats maintain is aimed at reducing minority turnout. The Republicans say the program's sole purpose is to purge ineligible voters from voting roles.

In an Aug. 13 memo the court made public Friday, Kris Wolfe, the Republican National Committee Midwest political director, wrote Lanny Griffith, the committee's Southern political director, and said of the Louisiana campaigning:

"I know this race is really important to you. I would guess that this program will eliminate at least 60-80,000 folks from the rolls. . . . If it's a close race . . . which I'm assuming it is, this could keep the black vote down considerably."





Unseals Document

She said in the memorandum that the program had been approved by Gregory Graves, deputy political director of the National Republican Senatorial Committee.

The document, called Exhibit 13, was unsealed by U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise when lawyers for the Democratic National Committee said it was needed to question Wolfe.

Wolfe testified that she wrote about the possibility of keeping the black vote down to remind Griffith that there "might be a political situation he might want to consider. . . . I wanted him to be aware of the political considerations."

The Democrats are suing the Republican Party for $10 million, charging that the Republican National Committee ballot security programs--a method of assuring that voters reside at their listed addresses--violated a 1981 consent agreement signed by both parties.

Under the agreement, the Republican committee would "refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial composition of such districts is a factor."

Debevoise refused to issue a restraining order requiring the GOP to stop all similar activity.

Accepts Lawyers' Word

The judge said he accepted the word of Republican lawyers who told him all ballot security programs have been stopped, including an effort the Democrats say singled out predominantly black and Latino precincts in Pontiac, Mich.

In testimony Friday, Mark Braden, the Republican National Committee's chief counsel and the organizer of the ballot security program, said he repeatedly sought to make it clear to subordinates that "race was a factor that could not be used. I would instill the fear of God in them. . . . I'm not an idiot, this is a big press issue, and it's a big legal issue."

The committee's ballot security program was conducted in Louisiana, Indiana and Missouri. Before it became controversial, GOP political strategists said they planned to use it in other states.

'Insidious Scheme'

Louisiana state District Court Judge Richard E. Lee issued an injunction against the program on Oct. 14. In his order, Lee said: "This was an insidious scheme by the Republican Party to remove blacks from the voting roles."
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you defend fucking racism
 
evince said:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/03/us/politics/03voting.html



Politics

U.S. Judge Opposes Republicans on Elections


By JOHN SCHWARTZDEC. 2, 2009



The Republican National Committee will not be able to use election tactics that have been linked to suppression of voting by racial minorities without court supervision, a federal judge in New Jersey has ruled.



The measures, known as “ballot security” programs, were the subject of a lawsuit between the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee that ended with a consent decree in 1982. Under the agreement, some election tactics could only be used with court approval, including the creation of voter challenge lists, photographing voters at the polls and posting off-duty police and sheriffs officers at the polls in minority precincts.

The restrictions on the Republican National Committee were extended by the courts to cover the nation in 1987.

Last November, the Republican Party went to court seeking to end the decree, arguing in part that a rise in voter fraud required the change. A voting expert for the Republicans, Tom Josefiak, argued in court that the political landscape had shifted, with African-Americans serving as president and attorney general.

With such officials in place, Mr. Josefiak had testified, he found it hard to believe that laws on the books regarding voter fraud, intimidation and suppression were not “going to be actively pursued by this Justice Department.”

Mr. Josefiak also testified that the chairman of the Republican National Committee and its chief administrative officer are African-American, and that the party had no incentive to intimidate minority voters.

In an opinion issued on Tuesday, Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise of Federal District Court ruled that the Republicans failed to show that conditions had changed enough to justify changing the agreement.

“It does not appear that the R.N.C.’s incentive to suppress minority votes has changed since 1982,” Judge Debevoise wrote, citing statistics showing that most minority voters support Democrats. “It appears that the R.N.C. has been largely unsuccessful in its efforts to attract minority voters. Until it is able to do so, it will have an incentive to engage in the type of voter suppression that it allegedly committed in the actions that led to the enactment and modification of the consent decree.”

The judge dismissed arguments by Republican advocates that voter fraud is a growing problem, and said suppression of minority voters was a more serious issue.

In his ruling, which is likely to be appealed, Judge Debevoise did agree to narrow the scope of the consent decree somewhat. He agreed that some forms of poll watching would be allowed, narrowed the definition of ballot security program to include “only efforts that are aimed at preventing potential voters from casting a ballot” and set an eight-year expiration date on the agreement. He noted that the agreement could be extended if violations were proved.

Richard L. Hasen of Loyola Law School in Los Angeles called the decision “a major development” in election law, since the judge found that Republicans still had electoral incentives to suppress minority votes even in the absence of “racial animus.”

The Democratic National Committee hailed the decision as “a resounding repudiation of the Republican Party’s trumped-up claims of voter fraud.”

Katie Wright, a spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, called the modifications to the consent decree “a step in the right direction,” but added that “there is still work to do in order for the R.N.C. to be able to compete on a level playing field and ensure fair elections across the country.”

Instances of voter fraud, Ms. Wright said, “plague federal, state and local elections,” though the extent of such fraud is unknown.
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you lie nonstop about your fucking evil actions
 
you people vote for the party that is cheating non stop in elections.




trump is a hero



he is making it so you cant cheat


just like he outed cruze



everything you cheating fucks do against him he will out.


I'm sure he wont out the cheating you do to help him though



we will out that
 
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