Bush and team used torture to CREATE the intel that they wanted you stupid dupe
I would like to see proof of your claim.
Bush and team used torture to CREATE the intel that they wanted you stupid dupe
I would like to see proof of your claim.
Now here's a general question. They released a whole heap of photographs depicting the results of American torturers in Abu Ghraib, Iraq;
http://tinyurl.com/gqs4hec
Example;
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Now, if they thought that these were OK to release then just how bad are the ones they're hanging onto ?
What torture?
Spoken like a torturer. This torture;
http://tinyurl.com/gqs4hec
http://tinyurl.com/gplh9gd
CIA chief admits agency used 'abhorrent' methods on detainees
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cia-torture-brennan-idUSKBN0JP29F20141211
Did you find your favorite torture method amongst those ?
What torture? I call it doing what needs to be done to get information you need to get.
I don't have a favorite method of enhanced interrogation. Whatever works to WIN and get the job done is my favorite one.
Full circle. Rape is the torturer's preferred starting point. Where would you place rape in your top five torture methods ?
experts keep telling these sociopaths that torture gives you unreliable intel
they just like hurting living things
You're the only one talking about rape. That's a sign of someone that must be ashamed of having raped someone in the past.
One mustn't be a fan of torture to realize that it can be a method of gaining valuable intel.
We don't live in a perfect world of harmony. Sad but true.
You're a self-confessed torture fan. It seems incredible, in the 21st century, but here you are .
Now, anybody who knows anything at all about human nature- particularly the dark side- knows full well that rape is the torturer's first port of call. It's impossible for you to state that you are a promoter of torture - with the exclusion of rape. It's laughable. The conclusion must be that you're lying and that you're a rape fan as well- or that you're lying and simply expressing a bit of ill-judged bravado in claiming to be a supporter of torture. Whichever it is you're lying. Making pathetic comments about members families isn't camouflage enough. Lying torturer or lying braggard- both contemptible.
Trump too is a fan and promoter of torture. The USA will be a laughing stock if he's even nominated, let alone elected. And if he is elected America will find itself in confrontation with the civilised world. Populations will demand the closure of foreign bases, they will want the US removed from the Security Council, American businesses will be boycotted, the dollar itself will be viewed as the currency of torturers. You want the torturer Trump ? Just go for it and see what happens. Mediaeval morons.
Nobody undertaking torture is fit to use any intel. It's the torturers we are opposing- because they are the enemies of civilisation. We simply don't want any mediaeval hitch-hikers justifying hell for the sake of their own malformed heaven.
There are plenty of bubbles of harmony. Evolution decrees that we try to join them together.
I believe in enhanced interrogation. It's pussies like you that call it torture.
You keep talking about rape. Sounds like psychological projection to me. You're denying you have those impulses by shifting the blame to someone that has mentioned nothing about the topic. I understand that you need help. You can only get it when you understand you need help.
You mean like the intel Leon Panetta, the the CIA director that was in charge of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, said was gained by waterboarding? Are you talking about that expert? You consider someone totally unassociated with anything having to actually do with gathering of intel that sits behind some desk at a university an expert.
Actually, Panetta is unsure about torture, but did say this
[FONT=playfair_displayregular]Five years later, the struggle between the White House, CIA and Senate Intelligence Committee over the release of the latter[/FONT][FONT=playfair_displayregular]’[/FONT][FONT=playfair_displayregular]s mammoth investigation into interrogation remains unresolved. Likewise, Panetta says he remains uncertain about the intelligence value of harsh interrogations. “No one shouted out [Osama] bin Laden[/FONT][FONT=playfair_displayregular]’[/FONT][FONT=playfair_displayregular]s address when strapped to a waterboard,” Panetta writes. “Rather, it was the slow accumulation of leads, one building up on the last, some extracted, unfortunately, after unsavory techniques were used,” that enabled Navy SEALs to kill the elusive Al-Qaeda leader in May 2011.
[/FONT]http://www.newsweek.com/what-former-cia-head-leon-panetta-says-now-about-torture-276456
Torture and rape are inseparable. Your notion of ' enhanced interrogation ' would simply entail the use of a ribbed-tickler. Blow harder if you like- but all torturers are rapists. If they haven't got around to it yet its because the conditions for doing it safely haven't quite been met.
So, according to you all enhanced interrogators are rapists even if they haven't raped anyone? Interesting. Explain how someone that hasn't done something can be what they haven't done. Your words.
So, according to you all enhanced interrogators are rapists even if they haven't raped anyone? Interesting. Explain how someone that hasn't done something can be what they haven't done. Your words.
