America, ruled by law or by power?

ZappasGuitar said:
Just list the crimes she's been convicted of, in a court of law, and I will acknowledge the veracity of your assertion.
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irredeemably stupid, AND is a liar who puts the political viability of Hillary Clinton above the safety of the United States
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Just list the crimes she's been convicted of, in a court of law, and I will acknowledge the veracity of your assertion.
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irredeemably stupid, AND is a liar who puts the political viability of Hillary Clinton above the safety of the United States

 
Stelakh said:
As to why she hasn't been charged? Possibly because the e-mails in question were not classified at the time but have subsequently been upgraded to classified. In addition, the rules, laws, guidelines and procedures for how classified material are now handled were not in place at the time. It is difficult to break a law when it is not yet in existence.

The difference with David Patreus is that the information he handled was already classified at the time he removed it and provided it to Paula Broadwell.
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The “Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement,” or SF-312, also makes clear that “classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications.”


That poses two problems for Clinton, who signed the document on Jan. 22, 2009, a day after taking office.


Not only does nullify her claim that none of her emails contained information that was “marked” classified, it also calls into question her failure to turn over her work-related State Department emails to the agency in December, nearly two years after leaving office.




More than 600 of the Clinton emails that the State Department has released so far have been found to contained information that the agency says is currently classified. While both the Clinton campaign and the State Department assert that the information was not classified at the time it was originated, others have questioned the claim.


Many of the now-classified documents contain a type of information called foreign government information. As Reuters reported in August, the federal government considers such information, which comes from foreign officials, to be “born classified.”
 
NOVA said:
irredeemably stupid, AND is a liar who puts the political viability of Hillary Clinton above the safety of the United States

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I offer NOVA the very same opportunity to list the crimes Mrs. Clinton was accused and found guilty of.

Just list them.
 
NOVA said:
The “Classified Information Nondisclosure Agreement,” or SF-312, also makes clear that “classified information is marked or unmarked classified information, including oral communications.”


That poses two problems for Clinton, who signed the document on Jan. 22, 2009, a day after taking office.


Not only does nullify her claim that none of her emails contained information that was “marked” classified, it also calls into question her failure to turn over her work-related State Department emails to the agency in December, nearly two years after leaving office.


More than 600 of the Clinton emails that the State Department has released so far have been found to contained information that the agency says is currently classified. While both the Clinton campaign and the State Department assert that the information was not classified at the time it was originated, others have questioned the claim.


Many of the now-classified documents contain a type of information called foreign government information. As Reuters reported in August, the federal government considers such information, which comes from foreign officials, to be “born classified.”
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Has she been tried in a court of law?

Was she found guilty?

Then NOVA's post is just more angry partisan nonsense.
 
Stelakh said:
The same way that one can justify saying O.J. Simpson is not guilty of the murders of Nicole Brown-Simpson and Ronald Goldman.

O.J. went through the legal process. It doesn't matter if I thought he was guilty as hell. He was acquitted. End of story.

Since Hillary Clinton has not been charged, tried and convicted, stating that she is a criminal is disingenuous at best and libel at worst.

Our justice system isn't perfect, but it's what we have.

As to why she hasn't been charged? Possibly because the e-mails in question were not classified at the time but have subsequently been upgraded to classified. In addition, the rules, laws, guidelines and procedures for how classified material are now handled were not in place at the time. It is difficult to break a law when it is not yet in existence.

The difference with David Patreus is that the information he handled was already classified at the time he removed it and provided it to Paula Broadwell.
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The fundamental issue is why was she even using a non-governmental server/PC equipment to conduct government business?
 
transwarpdrive said:
The fundamental issue is why was she even using a non-governmental server/PC equipment to conduct government business?
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her arrogance of power -to go to the OP we are a nation of laws, but the powerful can often corrupt that law.

Hillary's arrogance is manifest everywhere she trods. In Libya ( not Bengazi) her snide "we came we saw he died" remark about Gadaffi
as Libya was slipping into a failed terrorist state, largely because HRClinton was the chief architect of the Libyan War.

Her own State dept memo "tic toc on Libya" shows this. Not Rice, not Powers -but above all Clinton swayed Obama to destroy Libya..
I'll post it if needed.

Now it's her dissembling rationalizations about "not marked classified at the time"
when as Sec of State she had to know & sign off on basic classification protocol..

How the Dems can continue to defend her shows what rank partisanship does to one's thought process..
 
anatta said:
her arrogance of power -to go to the OP we are a nation of laws, but the powerful can often corrupt that law.

Hillary's arrogance is manifest everywhere she trods. In Libya ( not Bengazi) her snide "we came we saw he died" remark about Gadaffi
as Libya was slipping into a failed terrorist state, largely because HRClinton was the chief architect of the Libyan War.

Her own State dept memo "tic toc on Libya" shows this. Not Rice, not Powers -but above all Clinton swayed Obama to destroy Libya..
I'll post it if needed.

Now it's her dissembling rationalizations about "not marked classified at the time"
when as Sec of State she had to know & sign off on basic classification protocol..

How the Dems can continue to defend her shows what rank partisanship does to one's thought process..
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rank partisanship or extreme stupidity.....desh I can understand, but some of the other pinheads seemed to me to be relatively fair and mildly intelligent at one time....
they've certainly proved me wrong there......
 
Hitlery isn't the only ones. The elites will always protect the hive. They may bash each other in public but they will ALWAYS ALWAYS protect the hive regardless of party. While proles like Zipperhead and Deshtard are busy playing big Indian little indian the elites are fucking us all

Anyone else caught doing what Geithner did would be fucked. Charlie Rangle? Fucked

And the list goes on and on
 
I Love America said:
Hitlery isn't the only ones. The elites will always protect the hive. They may bash each other in public but they will ALWAYS ALWAYS protect the hive regardless of party. While proles like Zipperhead and Deshtard are busy playing big Indian little indian the elites are fucking us all

Anyone else caught doing what Geithner did would be fucked. Charlie Rangle? Fucked

And the list goes on and on
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yep, but the fucktard proles like zappa and desh will ask what the convictions are, because that's all that matters in defense of libs.
 
So that a resounding "NO", not a one of you can point to any crime Hillary has been found guilty of.

It's all just more partisan ignorance.

As I suspected.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
yep, but the fucktard proles like zappa and desh will ask what the convictions are, because that's all that matters in defense of libs.
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At least I'm not the lying "fucktard prole" who began THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE of his OP with the outright lie:

SmarterthanYou said:
Hillary Clinton is a felon many times over.
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You made the claim.

I asked you to show me what particular crimes she was convicted of.

Right on cue you began to hurl the usual litany of taunts and insults.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
At least I'm not the lying "fucktard prole" who began THE VERY FIRST SENTENCE of his OP with the outright lie:

You made the claim.

I asked you to show me what particular crimes she was convicted of.

Right on cue you began to hurl the usual litany of taunts and insults.
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zap, if it was a republican, you'd be calling them a felon. i know it. you know it. the board knows it. the ONLY reason you're clamoring to the 'techicality' of convictions is because it's a Democrat. no other reason.
 
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