Flint Residents Getting Past Due Notices for Poisoned Water Bills???

Leonthecat said:
“It was a collective decision of the emergency management team based on conversations with the MDEQ that indicated they would not be supportive of the use of the Flint River on a long-term basis as a primary source of water,” replied the embattled financial manager.
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Guyette wrote, “How could the river that was rejected as Flint’s permanent water source in December 2012 suddenly become suitable for consumption a mere 16 months later?”
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because 16 months later they weren't talking about using the Flint River on a long term basis........they were talking about using it until the Lake Iroquois water comes available next year........
 
PostmodernProphet said:
sorry but almost none of that is true......

1) The Emergency Managers Act went into effect in 1988 after being signed by Democrat governor Blanchard. Its first use was the city of Benton Harbor (Dems). Its most notorious use was in Detroit (Dem governor Granholm)
2) The state Congress has oversight of the managers
3) The state of Michigan has never been bankrupt.......in fact we've had balanced budgets every year since Snyder got elected.....he was re-elected easily in 2014.
4) Every municipality or school district that has gone bankrupt or went into receivership was run by Democrats.....
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I don't disagree that at the bottom of everything wrong in Michigan can be traced back to policies tied directly to democrats- that doesn't dismiss Snyders role in this current crisis and scandal.

-LANSING, Mich. (WXYZ) - Governor Rick Snyder's office says he has signed a new emergency manager bill into law. This replaces a similar law that voters struck down in November's election.
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http://www.wxyz.com/news/governor-rick-snyder-signs-new-michigan-emergency-manager-bill-into-law
 
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J Craft said:
The problem in Flint is that test results were either ignored, not done and, or, covered up.
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A local General Motors engine plant stopped using water from the Flint river because parts were becoming rusted, but officials nevertheless continued to reassure residents the water was safe to drink – a decision deemed “unconscionable” by Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton this week.
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www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jan/16/flints-water-crisis-what-went-wrongFgeneral
 
Borboletta said:
This seems to be a fair exposition of the events.leading up to this crisis.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jan/16/flints-water-crisis-what-went-wrong
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Except that it ignores local officials who purposefully ignored the obvious problems and covered up test results. There is plenty of blame to go around.- Snyder gave too much power to emergency managers in his attempt to save the state from financial ruin- no hyperbole here. Google anything about the financial ruin of Detroit to start appreciating just how bad the situation is.

Think about this too, the EPA ignored the problem. The EPA who's policies have devastated private land owners, ignore government abuse of our resources that have harmed not just the environment- but the residents of Flint.
 
J Craft said:
Except that it ignores local officials who purposefully ignored the obvious problems and covered up test results. There is plenty of blame to go around.- Snyder gave too much power to emergency managers in his attempt to save the state from financial ruin- no hyperbole here. Google anything about the financial ruin of Detroit to start appreciating just how bad the situation is.

Think about this too, the EPA ignored the problem. The EPA who's policies have devastated private land owners, ignore government abuse of our resources that have harmed not just the environment- but the residents of Flint.
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It does mention the EPA.

Observers have also pointed their finger at the EPA for its handling of the situation.

Henry Henderson, midwest director of the Natural Resources Defense Council, said the EPA has authority under the federal Safe Drinking Water Act to take emergency actions in crises like in Flint. “It’s become painfully obvious that every level of government, including but not limited to the EPA … have felt no urgency about this matter at all,” Henderson said, “have been shockingly lackadaisical, [and] have made inappropriate statements in public in terms of the safety of the situation, which is wildly unsafe.”

The EPA’s regional administrator told the Detroit News this week that federal officials chose to implore the MDEQ to respond to the situation, rather than take action itself, despite knowing for months that Flint wasn’t properly using corrosion control to treat its water.
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Borboletta said:
Yes I know that but it doesn't take a genius to determine that acidic water would likely leach lead from the pipes.
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I'm sorry, but I suspect almost everyone would have to admit they had no idea such a thing was even possible.......perhaps if you were a chemical engineer......
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I'm sorry, but I suspect almost everyone would have to admit they had no idea such a thing was even possible.......perhaps if you were a chemical engineer......
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That's bullshit, the Michigan Department of Environmental Quality (MDEQ) whole raison d'être is to know that! General Motors stopped using the water because it was rusting their car parts.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
I'm sorry, but I suspect almost everyone would have to admit they had no idea such a thing was even possible.......perhaps if you were a chemical engineer......
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Actually, that is precisely why they were supposed to treat the water. For that very reason. That is why those at the Water board were fired. There was failure at many levels, but it was their ineptitude that led to this. The EPA failed to report it. The city manager failed to tell the citizens. The governors office also failed to inform the citizens.
 
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