I thought the end of the Conservative party would look different.

Leonthecat said:
Who did you predict? Loser.
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I didn't predict who would win. I did however predict that the first chance the leftardiots got, they would throw Hitlery over the side like they did in 2008. We will see how Iowa goes, but it is looking more like my prediction is coming true.

I make no predictions on the GOP nomination as it is too much in the air. All I can say is that I support Cruz and ONLY Cruz. I will not vote for any other candidate in the general and that includes Trump, Carson and the establishment cabal.

Trump has made some comments and actions lately that cause me concern about him. But, I am enjoying him stirring up the shit pile
 
I Love America said:
you know that is a lie, you are just lashing out because your prediction has blown up in your face.

you were so sure it was going to be Jeb you made him your avatar. You probably deny that too.
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Conventional thinking at the time was that John E. Bush was the guy to beat. Jarod was not alone.
 
Jarod said:
Abortion.

A free market is a wealthy corporations wet dream, free to manipulate the market to prevent competition.
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Nope, Democrats are not liberal when it comes to abortion. Liberal would be government stays out of it. Democrats demand things like funding for it and pressing it past parents on children.

A free market is a consumers wet dream, free to fire companies who don't serve them. It always cracks me up when people like you who support government force saying things like that about companies who have no power to use force other than government coercion.

If you were actually a liberal at core and just misinformed, this simple test would change your life

1. Write down the most oppressive companies/industries
2. Write down the most regulated, government enabled companies and government controlled industries
3. Note you just wrote down the same list ... twice ...
4. Now note the common denominator. Government. None of them were in fact free markets

A true liberal would have serious lightbulbs going off right now. What say you?
 
kaz said:
Nope, Democrats are not liberal when it comes to abortion. Liberal would be government stays out of it. Democrats demand things like funding for it and pressing it past parents on children.

A free market is a consumers wet dream, free to fire companies who don't serve them. It always cracks me up when people like you who support government force saying things like that about companies who have no power to use force other than government coercion.

If you were actually a liberal at core and just misinformed, this simple test would change your life

1. Write down the most oppressive companies/industries
2. Write down the most regulated, government enabled companies and government controlled industries
3. Note you just wrote down the same list ... twice ...
4. Now note the common denominator. Government. None of them were in fact free markets

A true liberal would have serious lightbulbs going off right now. What say you?
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Anarchist/corporatist.
 
I Love America said:
you know that is a lie, you are just lashing out because your prediction has blown up in your face.

you were so sure it was going to be Jeb you made him your avatar. You probably deny that too.
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It was my avatar, I have kept my avatar a photo of whoever the Republican frontrunner has been at any particular time.
 
kaz said:
Nope, Democrats are not liberal when it comes to abortion. Liberal would be government stays out of it. Democrats demand things like funding for it and pressing it past parents on children.

A free market is a consumers wet dream, free to fire companies who don't serve them. It always cracks me up when people like you who support government force saying things like that about companies who have no power to use force other than government coercion.

If you were actually a liberal at core and just misinformed, this simple test would change your life

1. Write down the most oppressive companies/industries
2. Write down the most regulated, government enabled companies and government controlled industries
3. Note you just wrote down the same list ... twice ...
4. Now note the common denominator. Government. None of them were in fact free markets

A true liberal would have serious lightbulbs going off right now. What say you?
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I can understand your argument and your point and clearly Government is complicit. Good Government, run by true liberals would not be complicit, but we have conservative Democrats and we have Republicans. Private industry must be restrained or we end up with the 1920's all over again.
 
Jarod said:
I can understand your argument and your point and clearly Government is complicit. Good Government, run by true liberals would not be complicit, but we have conservative Democrats and we have Republicans. Private industry must be restrained or we end up with the 1920's all over again.
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1920s was caused by unprecedented interference and the income tax that drove a lot of it. Woodrow Wilson was a despot who believed in the absolute power of the President. We eliminated the separation of power between the States and Feds with direct election of Senators. Wilson also started getting us into everyone's shit across the globe. Nothing free market was going on. And to make sweeping statements regarding what would happen from a single action a hundred years ago is pretty preposterous.

Finally, terms like conservative and liberal are somewhat vague, I'm not sure what you mean by Democrats are "conservative." They aren't fiscally conservative, they are authoritarian leftists. How do you map that into "conservative" exactly?
 
That's not possible. A corporatist is a socialist, cat shit for brains. You can't be a corporatist and an anarchist, i'ts a contradiction. ItCorporatists are government making your choices for you. I believe in free markets. you and corporatists are shades of gray. Corporatists and me are nothing in common

And I'm not an anarchist. I don't want no government, I want small government. buy a dictionary. You're really a dim bulb.
 
kaz said:
That's not possible. A corporatist is a socialist, cat shit for brains. You can't be a corporatist and an anarchist, i'ts a contradiction. ItCorporatists are government making your choices for you. I believe in free markets. you and corporatists are shades of gray. Corporatists and me are nothing in common

And I'm not an anarchist. I don't want no government, I want small government. buy a dictionary. You're really a dim bulb.
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So you say, anarchist.
 
iolo said:
Liberalism, except when there is a major crisis, is the normal ideology of capitalism. Except for fascists, those who believe in capitalism are all liberals of one sort or another.
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Fascists don't support capitalism, Holmes. The government controls the economy, it doesn't provide free choice. They are socialists like you are.

Capitalism is economic freedom, consumers, suppliers, employers, employees, all make their own best free choices. Pure liberalism.

I'm not sure why leftists can't grasp that companies being controlled by government controlling the economy isn't a free market. The word "free" just doesn't process to you.
 
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