Driver firing randomly on U.S. highway kills two

christiefan915 said:
I have a problem with all the gun violence in this country that gets a pass. Now people will say they don't give gun violence a pass, yet they have no proposals on how to stop it. Being arrested and charged is all well and good, but I'm sure it's cold comfort to the family and friends of the victims.
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1) That is because there is NO WAY to STOP violence. There will always be that small fraction of society that will commit horrendous acts.

2) Really REALLY ironic of you to state that 'they have no proposals on how to stop it' given that YOU have not put forth any such proposal either. (again... see number one)
 
christiefan915 said:
We're supposed to be a civilized nation and a world leader yet we can't check gun violence like other major countries.

"The dubious distinction of having the most gun violence goes to Honduras, at 68.43 homicides by firearm per 100,000 people, even though it only has 6.2 firearms per 100 people. Other parts of South America and South Africa also rank highly, while the United States is somewhere near the mid-range. Still, America sees far more gun violence than countries in Europe, and Canada, India and Australia, which is perhaps how it gets its bloody reputation among comparatively peaceful nations.

When a person kills another in the United States, though, he or she generally uses a gun: 60 percent of U.S. homicides occur using a firearm, which is the 26th-highest rate in the world. (In other gun-permeated countries, such as Finland (45.3 guns per 100 people), only about 19 percent of homicides involve a firearm.

Guns don't always kill people, it seems, but they certainly play a role."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...homicides-compare-with-the-rest-of-the-world/
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Yeah, Finland and America are 100% comparable.
 
Superfreak said:
Funny... many idiots on the left ALSO stated that we should disarm those on the no fly list. It was the conservatives on this board that told them how moronic it is to violate a persons rights without due process.
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why cant they fly?


if they are safe enough to have a gun then they are safe enough to fly
 
evince said:
how about Canada?


they have a shit load of guns


why don't they have the same gun death level
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Why don't you ponder that yourself for a change.

Do you have any idea what Canada's demographics are compared to ours ?

On second thought, don't bother. You can't see the truth when it hits you square in the face if it don't meet your racist, bigoted ideas.
 
christiefan915 said:
Another sicko who shouldn't have been anywhere near a firearm
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Liberals love saying that as if you're making some sort of point that supports your position. Saying that is a complete zero. What would be useful would be an actual plan. I mean one that would work. Not the normal stupid one that says let's pretend that a law will keep sickos from getting any of the 300 million guns in the country and hundreds of millions more in the rest of the world.

So you got some actual content, or you going with the usual empty leftist rhetoric on the subject?
 
christiefan915 said:
We're supposed to be a civilized nation and a world leader yet we can't check gun violence like other major countries.

"The dubious distinction of having the most gun violence goes to Honduras, at 68.43 homicides by firearm per 100,000 people, even though it only has 6.2 firearms per 100 people. Other parts of South America and South Africa also rank highly, while the United States is somewhere near the mid-range. Still, America sees far more gun violence than countries in Europe, and Canada, India and Australia, which is perhaps how it gets its bloody reputation among comparatively peaceful nations.

When a person kills another in the United States, though, he or she generally uses a gun: 60 percent of U.S. homicides occur using a firearm, which is the 26th-highest rate in the world. (In other gun-permeated countries, such as Finland (45.3 guns per 100 people), only about 19 percent of homicides involve a firearm.

Guns don't always kill people, it seems, but they certainly play a role."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...homicides-compare-with-the-rest-of-the-world/
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South America and South Africa also rank highly, while the United States is somewhere near the mid-range. Still, America sees far more gun violence than countries in Europe, and Canada, India and Australia

First of all, you have to accept the fact that people kill people, the method is irrelevant.

Think about this......what do those country's demographics have in common with the US....other than none of them live under the freedoms of the US Bill of Rights.....

Maybe you can answer your own question.
 
christiefan915 said:
I have a problem with all the gun violence in this country that gets a pass. Now people will say they don't give gun violence a pass, yet they have no proposals on how to stop it. Being arrested and charged is all well and good, but I'm sure it's cold comfort to the family and friends of the victims.
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This is what our country has devolved into. A place where any drunken redneck can drive down the road blowing people away for no reason whatever. You’re sitting with your wife one minute and the next your dead. This is what the NRA wants for our country where everyone lives in the wild wild west blowing one another away.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
This is what our country has devolved into. A place where any drunken redneck can drive down the road blowing people away for no reason whatever. You’re sitting with your wife one minute and the next your dead. This is what the NRA wants for our country where everyone lives in the wild wild west blowing one another away.
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They could have the same thing 100 years ago only they probably wouldn't be driving pickup trucks, fool


but I can't deny we didn't devolve in the last 7 years of Obama's reign.
 
kaz said:
Liberals love saying that as if you're making some sort of point that supports your position. Saying that is a complete zero. What would be useful would be an actual plan. I mean one that would work. Not the normal stupid one that says let's pretend that a law will keep sickos from getting any of the 300 million guns in the country and hundreds of millions more in the rest of the world.

So you got some actual content, or you going with the usual empty leftist rhetoric on the subject?
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How about if we stop glorifying violence in this country? Stop with the "might makes right." Stop the increasingly violent movies, games and television programs. Stop pretending that the only solution to gun violence is more guns. Stop the gun swaggering. Stop thinking that the only way to end violence is with more violence. Stop idolizing guns and criticizing people who don't have the same opinion of them. Stop letting politicians instill endless amounts of fear about situations that may never occur. Stop thinking we can solve other countries' problems with war. Stop thinking of the 2nd amendment as God's greatest commandment.

What have you got?
 
NOVA said:
South America and South Africa also rank highly, while the United States is somewhere near the mid-range. Still, America sees far more gun violence than countries in Europe, and Canada, India and Australia

First of all, you have to accept the fact that people kill people, the method is irrelevant.

Think about this......what do those country's demographics have in common with the US....other than none of them live under the freedoms of the US Bill of Rights.....

Maybe you can answer your own question.
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I guess the citizens of those countries aren't too upset or they'd be lobbying their politicians to loosen up whatever gun laws they have. Your kind of thinking is part of the problem. There's nothing in the Bill of Rights that says because you can do something you should do something.
 
christiefan915 said:
How about if we stop glorifying violence in this country? Stop with the "might makes right." Stop the increasingly violent movies, games and television programs. Stop pretending that the only solution to gun violence is more guns. Stop the gun swaggering. Stop thinking that the only way to end violence is with more violence. Stop idolizing guns and criticizing people who don't have the same opinion of them. Stop letting politicians instill endless amounts of fear about situations that may never occur. Stop thinking we can solve other countries' problems with war. Stop thinking of the 2nd amendment as God's greatest commandment.

What have you got?
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They've got ...


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MORE GUNS!!​
 
christiefan915 said:
How about if we stop glorifying violence in this country? Stop with the "might makes right." Stop the increasingly violent movies, games and television programs. Stop pretending that the only solution to gun violence is more guns. Stop the gun swaggering. Stop thinking that the only way to end violence is with more violence. Stop idolizing guns and criticizing people who don't have the same opinion of them. Stop letting politicians instill endless amounts of fear about situations that may never occur. Stop thinking we can solve other countries' problems with war. Stop thinking of the 2nd amendment as God's greatest commandment.

What have you got?
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I'm not trying to be cynical here but violence has been around as long as humans have existed as has essentially war and the quest for power. That's not in any way to suggest we shouldn't aim to make our world a less violent place but it's a part of who we are.
 
cawacko said:
I'm not trying to be cynical here but violence has been around as long as humans have existed as has essentially war and the quest for power. That's not in any way to suggest we shouldn't aim to make our world a less violent place but it's a part of who we are.
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^ So has sex. But we have puritanical attitudes about it while we love and are fascinated by violence.

Several years ago there was such an uproar about Janet Jackson's one second nip slip that CBS got fined half a million dollars. Yet violence gets a yawn. I hate that.
 
christiefan915 said:
^ So has sex. But we have puritanical attitudes about it while we love and are fascinated by violence.

Several years ago there was such an uproar about Janet Jackson's one second nip slip that CBS got fined half a million dollars. Yet violence gets a yawn. I hate that.
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As far as TV and movies go we do have a rating system so that at least in theory a young person shouldn't be watching age in appropriate shows
 
Yes, Christiefan, the 2nd Amendment. Freedom has some risk, I prefer to pay for my freedom with risk than to "feel" safe.
 
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