What Happens When We Teach Children to HATE

That's a flat-out lie, 3d. Ever heard of the converting Crusades? The Knights Templar and others were on their most sincere mission to convert or kill all muslims. Read up on it. The muslims study it all the time, christian. The only "inevitable" hate involved comes from those that severely misinterpret and misunderstand their own religions. You god doesn't wish hate, murder and war amongst you. Or so I have read in so many various bibles.

Toodleloo!!!!
 
ZoomZoom said:
That's a flat-out lie, 3d. Ever heard of the converting Crusades? The Knights Templar and others were on their most sincere mission to convert or kill all muslims. Read up on it. The muslims study it all the time, christian.

Toodleloo!!!!
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Islamic attacks started in 632
Crusades were launched in 1095

Notice a gap in time there?

Also, the Islamic world didn't really keep score on the Crusades until scholars began writing about it at the end of the 19th Century. The Mongol conquest was the catastrophe that was most remembered at that point.
 
ZoomZoom said:
Do you have a link to your dates or are you just blowing out your butt?

Toodleloo!!!!
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Are you fucking serious? Do you not know that 632 (which was also the death of Muhammad) was the beginning of the Islamic Wars of Expansion, and that 1095, at the Council of Clermont, was when Pope Urban II called for the 1st Crusade? These are basic dates like 1776, 1789, and 1945...
 
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/column/four-myths-about-the-crusades-1562/

Here's an interesting essay debunking myths about the crusades. Myth #1, I had long ago worked-out myself before encountering the article, as anyone who has studied early Islamic Civilization can do. Myths 2-3 aren't relevant to this debate, and are somewhat trivial in nature. The strength of this essay is #4, which is where he talks about Islam's view of the Crusades throughout history.
 
Threedee said:
Are you fucking serious? Do you not know that 632 (which was also the death of Muhammad) was the beginning of the Islamic Wars of Expansion, and that 1095, at the Council of Clermont, was when Pope Urban II called for the 1st Crusade? These are basic dates like 1776, 1789, and 1945...
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asking you to document the basis of your debate with facts is reasonable



pretending it means someone is stupid or uninformed makes you a shit head


GET IT!



be willing to teach


stop being such a fucking elitest asshole
 
Threedee said:
Islamic attacks started in 632
Crusades were launched in 1095

Notice a gap in time there?

Also, the Islamic world didn't really keep score on the Crusades until scholars began writing about it at the end of the 19th Century. The Mongol conquest was the catastrophe that was most remembered at that point.
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How many Christian or pagan wars went on during that time period?
 
christiefan915 said:
How many Christian or pagan wars went on during that time period?
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You mean, how many times did the Muslims attack us during that time? Obviously, this was the time period in which the Frankish and Ottonian (Holy Roman Empire) kingdoms were being established, and in which Rune's ancestors demolished the English heptarchy, completed in 1066 (thanks a lot, asshole!).
 
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