Limiting terrorists access to assault rifles wont work... but...

Jarod

Jarod

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Preventing Terrorists from having legal access to assault rifles wont work...

But denying entry to those who admit to being Muslim at the border will somehow prevent terrorism?
 
It worked for Jimmy Carter back in 1980...

Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.

Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all.
 
StormX said:
It worked for Jimmy Carter back in 1980...

Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.

Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all.
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Really, you believe that Banning a nationality is the same as banning a Religion?

WOW, if so, you are more ignorant than I thought.

Our Nation was founded by people escaping such a government.
 
StormX said:
It worked for Jimmy Carter back in 1980...

Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.

Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all.
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So, Iranians could come to this country if they were opposed to our enemy (their government), regardless of what religion they belonged to. And that is the same as Trump planning to ban all 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world....?

You are stupid!
 
LOL

Banning terrorists is banning terrorists, why do you want them coming to this country anyway?? Do you own a 7-11 and need workers?
 
StormX said:
LOL

Banning terrorists is banning terrorists, why do you want them coming to this country anyway?? Do you own a 7-11 and need workers?
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How is banning 1.6 Billion people based on self reporting of their religion equivalent to banning terrorists?

Heck, I have an idea, lets just make terrorism illegal... that should stop it.
 
Jarod said:
Really, you believe that Banning a nationality is the same as banning a Religion?

WOW, if so, you are more ignorant than I thought.

Our Nation was founded by people escaping such a government.
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Really ? The Muslims are not only free to practice their religion in ALL Muslim countrys, they are required to practice that religion.....
 
Jarod said:
How is banning 1.6 Billion people based on self reporting of their religion equivalent to banning terrorists?

Heck, I have an idea, lets just make terrorism illegal... that should stop it.
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That sounds like an Obama idea....he thinks taking guns from innocent citizens will stop the Islamic terrorists....
 
StormX said:
It worked for Jimmy Carter back in 1980...

Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.

Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all.
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WHAT'S TRUE: President Jimmy Carter announced sanctions against Iran in 1980, including the cancellation of visas for Iranian citizens.

WHAT'S FALSE: Carter's sanctions resembled Trump's suggestion to ban Muslims from entering or immigrating to the U.S.

Origin: Following the 2 December 2015 mass shooting in San Bernardino, California, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump controversially suggested (temporarily) barring all Muslims from entering the United States. During the ensuing debate over Trump's pronouncement, several web sites said that Trump's suggestion followed a precedent set by President Jimmy Carter barring Iranian nationals from entering the U.S. during the Iran Hostage Crisis of 1980.
One such comparison was made in an 8 December 2015 Frontpage Mag article titled "Carter Banned Iranians from Coming to US During Hostage Crisis: Trump is Just Like Hitler. Or Jimmy Carter...

...the announcement's title ("Sanctions Against Iran Remarks Announcing U.S. Actions") suggested that the passage was part of a larger foreign policy strategy undertaken in response to a specific crisis, which was clear to those who read the speech in full...

Carter explicitly outlined the reasons behind the issuance of sanctions (including visa cancellation for Iranian nationals) and underscored his intent to pressure Iran's regime. By contrast, Trump's proposal was markedly different: not a sanction, but a security measure framed as a counterterrorism strategy, and one directed at all adherents of a particular religion (regardless of their nationalities) rather than citizens of a particular country. Moreover, Carter's sanctions occurred during a lengthy period of escalating conflict between Iran and the United States (while U.S. hostages remained in foreign captivity), but Trump's proposal came in response to a mass shooting perpetrated by an American citizen and his immigrant wife.

http://www.snopes.com/jimmy-carter-banned-iranian-immigrants/
 
Jarod said:
Preventing Terrorists from having legal access to assault rifles wont work...

But denying entry to those who admit to being Muslim at the border will somehow prevent terrorism?
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Option one won't work because terrorists have more than one tool in the shed: in fact, it's just a pretext for liberals to restrict gun rights.

Option two won't stop terrorism because the terrorists are here amongst us. Does that mean we throw our hands up in the air and allow them in willy-nilly? No, that would be absurd. But that is where we're at, unless your gullible enough to think we are vetting them effectively. As it is, ISIS is no doubt scheming to do just that and very likely already have.

What people don't get about Trumps latest heresy is that it serves a political purpose. Not that it's terribly hard to do, but his policy idea demonstrates that he takes the threat of radical Islam more seriously than any Democrat [they really, really think Climate change is a bigger threat] and arguably more seriously than any republican.
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Option one won't work because terrorists have more than one tool in the shed: in fact, it's just a pretext for liberals to restrict gun rights.

Option two won't stop terrorism because the terrorists are here amongst us. Does that mean we throw our hands up in the air and allow them in willy-nilly? No, that would be absurd. But that is where we're at, unless your gullible enough to think we are vetting them effectively. As it is, ISIS is no doubt scheming to do just that and very likely already have.

What people don't get about Trumps latest heresy is that it serves a political purpose. Not that it's terribly hard to do, but his policy idea demonstrates that he takes the threat of radical Islam more seriously than any Democrat [they really, really think Climate change is a bigger threat] and arguably more seriously than any republican.
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One thing Trump does extremely well is say what (some) people want to hear. For instance: 'I'll kick out all 11 million illegals, I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, I'll ban all Muslim immigrants'. None of that is serious policy as it's not possible but people like to hear someone say it.
 
Jarod said:
Preventing Terrorists from having legal access to assault rifles wont work...

But denying entry to those who admit to being Muslim at the border will somehow prevent terrorism?
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If they are actually known terrorists maybe we should be rounding them up? Ya think?

Or you are content with known terrorists roaming around just as long as they can't "legally" buy a gun and you will feel safe knowing he is out there without a "legal" firearm.

You might want to go back to the drawing board. You are trying too hard to fit a square peg in a round hole
 
cawacko said:
One thing Trump does extremely well is say what (some) people want to hear. For instance: 'I'll kick out all 11 million illegals, I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it, I'll ban all Muslim immigrants'. None of that is serious policy as it's not possible but people like to hear someone say it.
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Would that be like "Hope and Change" and "I'll close Gitmo", etc., etc.
 
history will record that those who vote for tRump will be seen much the same as those who voted for david duke or mcCarthy
 
Question for everyone who supports this wonderful new policy of restricting gun rights to ANYONE on the Terror Watch List.

Is EVERYONE on that list a TERRORIST?

Yes or No?
 
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