The shooter is an anti-abortion Christian?

Legion Troll

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I know, there are so many of them, it's hard to know which one. Welcome to the land of the well regulated militia!


The man she had married professed to be deeply religious. But after more than seven years with Robert L. Dear Jr., Barbara Micheau had come to see life with him as a kind of hell on earth.

In a sworn affidavit as part of her divorce case, Ms. Micheau described Mr. Dear as a serial philanderer and a problem gambler, a man who kicked her, beat her head against the floor and fathered two children with other women while they were together.

He found excuses for his transgressions, she said, in his idiosyncratic views on Christian eschatology and the nature of salvation.

“He claims to be a Christian and is extremely evangelistic, but does not follow the Bible in his actions,” Ms. Micheau said in the court document. “He says that as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases. He is obsessed with the world coming to an end.”

In court documents and interviews with people who knew Dear well, a picture emerges of an angry and occasionally violent man who seemed deeply disturbed and deeply contradictory: He was a man of religious conviction who sinned openly, a man who craved both extreme solitude and near-constant female company, a man who successfully wooed women but, some of them say, also abused them.

He frequented marijuana websites, then argued with other posters, often through heated religious screeds.

“Turn to JESUS or burn in hell,” he wrote on one site. “WAKE UP SINNERS U CANT SAVE YOURSELF U WILL DIE AN WORMS SHALL EAT YOUR FLESH, NOW YOUR SOUL IS GOING SOMEWHERE.”

A number of people who knew Dear said he was a staunch abortion opponent.

Ms. Micheau, 60, said in a brief interview that late in her marriage to Dear, he told her that he had put glue in the locks of a Planned Parenthood location in Charleston.

“He was very proud of himself that he’d gone over and jammed up their locks with glue so that they couldn’t get in,” she said.

One person who spoke with him extensively about his religious views said Dear praised people who attacked abortion providers, saying they were doing “God’s work.”

In 2009, said the person, who spoke on the condition of anonymity out of concerns for the privacy of the family, Dear described as “heroes” members of the Army of God, a loosely organized group of anti-abortion extremists that has claimed responsibility for a number of killings and bombings.



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Holy crap, where have we heard this before? It's like a central tenet of their beliefs.

"He claims to be a Christian and is extremely evangelistic, but does not follow the Bible in his actions,” Ms. Micheau said in the court document. “He says that as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases."

Now you understand why righties aren't touching this thread with a 10-foot pole.
 
I've heard that phrase too many times to count, along with "I'm not perfect, just forgiven."

Being saved doesn't give Dear or anybody the right to whore around, abuse his wife and destroy property.

didn't say it did......I merely pointed out that only an ignorant liberal would say that "as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases" is a a central tenet of Christian beliefs......while we're talking about ignorant liberals, how do you feel about Legion's central tenet of beliefs about Christianity?.......he's your good buddy, right?.......
 
didn't say it did......I merely pointed out that only an ignorant liberal would say that "as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases" is a a central tenet of Christian beliefs......while we're talking about ignorant liberals, how do you feel about Legion's central tenet of beliefs about Christianity?.......he's your good buddy, right?.......

Did you miss the fact that I was quoting his ex-wife, and none of us know if she's liberal, conservative or Christian?
 

In other words, the central tenet Pmp is denying.

The Bible teaches “once saved, always saved” -- that we can be saved once and for all only through a repentant, saving faith in Jesus Christ. Once a person has accepted Christ as Savior, they may wonder if it is possible to lose that salvation. What if they commit a sin? What if they commit a lot of sins? What if they do something very, very wrong? Is it possible to be saved, and then lose that salvation? Fortunately, the answer is a resounding “no.” Once a person has accepted Jesus Christ as Savior, he/she is forever saved. This fact is referred to as the doctrine of “eternal security,” often summarized as “once saved, always saved.”
 
I've heard that phrase too many times to count, along with "I'm not perfect, just forgiven."

Being saved doesn't give Dear or anybody the right to whore around, abuse his wife and destroy property.

We've heard it one here in one form or another, PMP, and many of the others use the same line of reasoning.
 
More info:


Though to his neighbors he was a recluse, online, Dear appeared to lead a different sort of life.

He posted frequently to a web forum dedicated to cannabis and joined an adult dating site called SexyAds.

On SexyAds, a poster using his email address and photo said he was looking for a discreet relationship and was interested in spanking. On the cannabis forum, he said he was looking for women to “party,” and rarely wrote about using the drug.

Instead, he was far more likely to write brief and emphatic messages about Jesus Christ — usually in caps lock, the online equivalent of yelling — or to post sparsely worded solicitations for female companionship. “sexy women wanted. i love to party, tall, aries, male,” he wrote in August.

He argued with users of the site who disagreed with his religious posts, deriding them as “slaves” and “demons” who would suffer at the end of the world.

On Oct. 7, he wrote, “Every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that JESUS IS LORD.”


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