CATO schools the panty-pissers

[Legion Troll]

Syrian and Other Refugees Admitted Since 2011
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The terrorist threat from Syrian refugees in the United States is hyperbolically over-exaggerated and we have very little to fear from them because the refugee vetting system is so thorough.

The brutal terrorist attack in France last Friday reignited a debate over accepting refugees from Syria and the Middle East. A Syrian who applied for asylum could have been one of the attackers, although his passport was a forgery.

As of this writing, all identified attackers have been French or Belgian nationals.

Governors and presidential candidates have voiced opposition to accepting any Syrian refugees, while several bills in Congress could effectively end the program.




http://www.cato.org/blog/syrian-refugees-dont-pose-serious-security-threat

 

[Phantasmal]

Syrian and Other Refugees Admitted Since 2011
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The terrorist threat from Syrian refugees in the United States is hyperbolically over-exaggerated and we have very little to fear from them because the refugee vetting system is so thorough.

The brutal terrorist attack in France last Friday reignited a debate over accepting refugees from Syria and the Middle East. A Syrian who applied for asylum could have been one of the attackers, although his passport was a forgery.

As of this writing, all identified attackers have been French or Belgian nationals.

Governors and presidential candidates have voiced opposition to accepting any Syrian refugees, while several bills in Congress could effectively end the program.




http://www.cato.org/blog/syrian-refugees-dont-pose-serious-security-threat

WOW, CATO, who would have thunk

 

[cawacko]

WOW, CATO, who would have thunk

You really don't understand CATO if this surprises you.

 

[Legion Troll]

You really don't understand CATO if this surprises you.

Have you gotten schooled by them before?

The security threat posed by refugees in the United States is insignificant.

Halting America’s processing of refugees due to a terrorist attack in another country that may have had one asylum-seeker as a co-plotter would be an extremely expensive overreaction to very minor threat.

The current refugee vetting system is multi-layered, dynamic, and extremely effective. ISIS fighters or terrorists who are intent on attacking U.S. soil have myriad other options for doing so that are all cheaper, easier, and more likely to succeed than sneaking in through the heavily guarded refugee gate.

The low level of current risk does not justify the government slamming that gate shut.


http://www.cato.org/blog/syrian-refugees-dont-pose-serious-security-threat

 

[Phantasmal]

You really don't understand CATO if this surprises you.

Oh, I do, I followed them through the Iraq war, you of all people should know that, never been a fan of this conservative think tank.

 

[cawacko]

Oh, I do, I followed them through the Iraq war, you of all people should know that, never been a fan of this conservative think tank.

Conservative? Were you attempting to use that as a pejorative as you know they are Libertarian? I am well aware you don't like them but this position is very consistent with their beliefs which is why I was surprised you were surprised they hold it.

 

[Legion Troll]

Conservative? Were you attempting to use that as a pejorative as you know they are Libertarian? I am well aware you don't like them but this position is very consistent with their beliefs which is why I was surprised you were surprised they hold it.

You seem reluctant to discuss CATOs' findings on Syrian refugees, and it appears that you'd prefer to parse Rana's irrelevant identification of the organizations' political leanings instead.

Why is that?

I'll understand if you don't answer.

 

[Phantasmal]

Conservative? Were you attempting to use that as a pejorative as you know they are Libertarian? I am well aware you don't like them but this position is very consistent with their beliefs which is why I was surprised you were surprised they hold it.

This is how I perceive CATO

Libertarian conservatism is a conservative political philosophy and ideology that combines right-libertarian politics and conservative values.

 

[Legion Troll]

This is how I perceive CATO Libertarian conservatism is a conservative political philosophy and ideology that combines right-libertarian politics and conservative values.

I doubt he's really concerned with your characterization of CATO.

I suspect he is unable to reconcile their findings on Syrian refugees with the climate of fear that panty-pissers are wallowing in.

 

[cawacko]

This is how I perceive CATO

Libertarian conservatism is a conservative political philosophy and ideology that combines right-libertarian politics and conservative values.

You are free to label them however you like but there's a reason they are labeled a Libertarian organization and not conservative. Foreign policy, gay marriage and immigration are just a few of the subjects that differentiate them from conservatives, including the issue of refugees.

 

[Phantasmal]

You are free to label them however you like but there's a reason they are labeled a Libertarian organization and not conservative. Foreign policy, gay marriage and immigration are just a few of the subjects that differentiate them from conservatives, including the issue of refugees.

Cawacko, you can't be this obtuse, seriously, Libertarians aren't all on the same page, there are some with more conservative leanings and there are some with more liberal leanings, it is why you have some libertarians on the board accusing others of not being libertarians.

It is the same with Democrats and Republicans, there are degrees and differences in the parties. You seem to think that because some is Republican they agree with all the Republican platform.

CATO abandoned their libertarian leanings on the Iraq war #3 and only returned to libertarian leanings in 2009 when they advised the Republican Party to abandon the neocons.

 

[Phantasmal]

I doubt he's really concerned with your characterization of CATO.

I suspect he is unable to reconcile their findings on Syrian refugees with the climate of fear that panty-pissers are wallowing in.

He has never agreed to the way I characterize CATO and he has trouble understanding that not all Libertarians are pure libertarians, there are degrees.

 

[cawacko]

Cawacko, you can't be this obtuse, seriously, Libertarians aren't all on the same page, there are some with more conservative leanings and there are some with more liberal leanings, it is why you have some libertarians on the board accusing others of not being libertarians.

It is the same with Democrats and Republicans, there are degrees and differences in the parties. You seem to think that because some is Republican they agree with all the Republican platform.

CATO abandoned their libertarian leanings on the Iraq war #3 and only returned to libertarian leanings in 2009 when they advised the Republican Party to abandon the neocons.

I'm very aware there are differences among Libertarians (just as there are among Dems and Reps like you said). And I would agree that CATO would generally be considered on the right but that doesn't make them conservative.

To speak of this board look at String as a Libertarian example. I'd say a majority of his posts are against social conservatives. He is clearly not a fan/supporter. Yet when he speaks economics his beliefs are pretty much in line with what CATO believes. Would you label String a conservative?

 

[Phantasmal]

I'm very aware there are differences among Libertarians (just as there are among Dems and Reps like you said). And I would agree that CATO would generally be considered on the right but that doesn't make them conservative.

To speak of this board look at String as a Libertarian example. I'd say a majority of his posts are against social conservatives. He is clearly not a fan/supporter. Yet when he speaks economics his beliefs are pretty much in line with what CATO believes. Would you label String a conservative?

Sigh, never mind cawacko, I don't feel like playing ring around the rosey today.

 

[cawacko]

Sigh, never mind cawacko, I don't feel like playing ring around the rosey today.

Fair enough. For the record I'm not trying to be obtuse, nor am I trying to argue or fight for the sake of it. I just disagree with the labeling of CATO as a conservative organization.

 

[Legion Troll]

Fair enough. For the record I'm not trying to be obtuse, nor am I trying to argue or fight for the sake of it. I just disagree with the labeling of CATO as a conservative organization.

Do you disagree with their findings on the Syrian refugee hysteria?

 

[zappasguitar]

You really don't understand CATO if this surprises you.

Why don't you explain it to him.

 

[Legion Troll]

Why don't you explain it to him.

He was talking to Rana, and I suspect he has no intention of doing anything in this thread except dancing desperately to divert attention from CATO's embarrassing findings.

 

[zappasguitar]

Fair enough. For the record I'm not trying to be obtuse, nor am I trying to argue or fight for the sake of it. I just disagree with the labeling of CATO as a conservative organization.

Oh please.

This is just more of the same nonsense from yesterday.

 

[Legion Troll]

Oh please. This is just more of the same nonsense from yesterday.

Do you suppose he's embarrassed by CATO's findings?