For the fake postmodern profit. LOL

wiseones2cents

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OK profit. Lets see what we have here.

Adam 130 years became the father seth, lived 930
Seth 105 Years became father of Enosh, lived 912 years
Enosh 90 years became father of kenan, lived 905 years
Kenan lived 70 years, and became the father of Mahalalel, lived 910 years
Mahalalel lived 65 years, and became the father of Jared, lived 895 years
Jared lived 162 years and became father of Enoch, lived 962
Enoch(apparently did not die) 65 years Father of Methuselah
Methuselah lived 187 years, and became the father of Lamech. Lived 969 years
Lamech lived 182 years, and became the father of Noah.
Noah 600 when the floods came.
Noah lived 950 years.

I can supply the Bible pages too if you want. They are in Genesis.

Total years from Adam's creation to the flood? 1656 years. When did you say the flood occurred???

From the flood to Abraham we have 400 years. When did Abraham live?

That's so far 2,000+ years.

Looking forward to your replies. By the way. This is assuming the Bible is accurate, which it is not because in different parts of the Bible the genealogies have discrepancies. Different fathers. Different sons.

And that's assuming that men lived almost 1000 years, which I also believe is a bunch of crap.
 
Here's another puzzle.

Laws that were written on tablets by mortal kings that predate the Laws that the god of the jews gave Moses. How can that be? Did the god of the jews visit the Babylonians and the Sumerians first?lol Then he cant be the god of the jews can he?lol When you understand Moses was taught these laws by a Midian high priest you will start to understand that the laws were mortal laws that existed prior to Moses and his god.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Ur-Nammu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_Eshnunna
 
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Here's another puzzle.

Laws that were written on tablets by mortal kings that predate the Laws that the god of the jews gave Moses. How can that be? Did the god of the jews visit the Babylonians and the Sumerians first?lol Then he cant be the god of the jews can he?lol When you understand Moses was taught these laws by a Midian high priest you will start to understand that the laws were mortal laws that existed prior to Moses and his god.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Ur-Nammu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_Eshnunna

if the Jews copied the code of Hammurabi, why don't any of the provisions look like his code....were they bad copiers?....
 
OK profit. Lets see what we have here.

Adam 130 years became the father seth, lived 930
Seth 105 Years became father of Enosh, lived 912 years
Enosh 90 years became father of kenan, lived 905 years
Kenan lived 70 years, and became the father of Mahalalel, lived 910 years
Mahalalel lived 65 years, and became the father of Jared, lived 895 years
Jared lived 162 years and became father of Enoch, lived 962
Enoch(apparently did not die) 65 years Father of Methuselah
Methuselah lived 187 years, and became the father of Lamech. Lived 969 years
Lamech lived 182 years, and became the father of Noah.
Noah 600 when the floods came.
Noah lived 950 years.

I can supply the Bible pages too if you want. They are in Genesis.

Total years from Adam's creation to the flood? 1656 years. When did you say the flood occurred???

From the flood to Abraham we have 400 years. When did Abraham live?

That's so far 2,000+ years.

Looking forward to your replies. By the way. This is assuming the Bible is accurate, which it is not because in different parts of the Bible the genealogies have discrepancies. Different fathers. Different sons.

And that's assuming that men lived almost 1000 years, which I also believe is a bunch of crap.
For a non-believer, you sure spend a lot of time researching Christianity. You know who else knows the bible inside out?images63I2N8GA.jpg
 
Here's another puzzle.

Laws that were written on tablets by mortal kings that predate the Laws that the god of the jews gave Moses. How can that be? Did the god of the jews visit the Babylonians and the Sumerians first?lol Then he cant be the god of the jews can he?lol When you understand Moses was taught these laws by a Midian high priest you will start to understand that the laws were mortal laws that existed prior to Moses and his god.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Ur-Nammu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_Eshnunna

Ha, they didn't have tablets back then!
 
since it went over your head, I will ask again, perhaps phrase it a bit differently.....

was Adam born?.....


Yawn...That is why I enjoy destroying your arguments. Your ignorance is astounding.

What are you getting at?

Whether he was born or created? The point is that according to the Bible, he had a beginning and when he reached 130 years of age(after that beginning). He gave birth to Seth. And if you add up all the years from Adam's beginning to now, via the patriarchs? You get around 7000 years. I don't think I can explain it much easier.lol
 
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if the Jews copied the code of Hammurabi, why don't any of the provisions look like his code....were they bad copiers?....

They just simplified it. These were all common laws PRIOR to the jewish ten commandments. lol The biggest misconception is that there were only 10 commandments.lol

Though lets take a look at the code of Ur-Nammu!!!

1. If a man commits a murder, that man must be killed.
2. If a man commits a robbery, he will be killed.

Not to mention all the codes have different punishments for adultery and bearing false witness!

14. If a man accused the wife of a man of adultery, and the river ordeal proved her innocent, then the man who had accused her must pay one-third of a mina of silver. (11)

28. If a man appeared as a witness, and was shown to be a perjurer, he must pay fifteen shekels of silver.
29. If a man appears as a witness, but withdraws his oath, he must make payment, to the extent of the value in litigation of the case.

You will find similar codes in the other books!

These laws weren't made by some god inn the sky. They were made by mortal rulers/kings/lords.
 
For a non-believer, you sure spend a lot of time researching Christianity. You know who else knows the bible inside out?View attachment 2656

Actually I am a believer. Though I am an semi-agnostic Christian. I research all things because the Spirit of Truth within me compels me to. Unlike most brainwashed Christians, I don't believe in blind faith. The Bible states to search all things, even the depths of GOD! Meaning that just because someone says it is of GOD, doesn't make it so. I wouldn't be surprised if the original text of Scripture was tampered with.

12.1 Corinthians 2:10
For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.

And yes, satan knows the bible inside out and he loves to hide within the Church(places of authority) and so do his children. That's why organized Christianity is so fucked up these days. It is full of wolves in sheep's clothing. Which is not surprising if you've researched the history of Christianity like I have. Care to learn?
 
Not to mention all the codes have different punishments for adultery and bearing false witness!

obviously you wouldn't want to mention them, since they have no parallel in the Ten Commandments......nothing about other gods, nothing about idols.....nothing about Sabbaths or parents....nothing about coveting......monetary compensation instead of prohibition for lying or adultery.......

guess all you can say about Nammu is that he was against killing and stealing.....Hammurabi has even less to compare.....
 
PMP should host another Council of Niacea so he and the other cultist can rewrite the bible.

http://www.faithstreet.com/onfaith/...e-a-second-chance-by-making-a-new-bible/31539

Why do I prefer our United States Constitution to the Bible? Lots of reasons, but I’ll focus on one. The Constitution allows for do-overs. Its authors understood the document to be imperfect and made provisions for future generations to amend it.


Alas, there is no such biblical escape clause. What you see from way back then is what you get.


Neither the Constitution nor the Bible included freedom of religion, equal rights for women, prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment, or the abolition of slavery — but today, through amendments, the Constitution does. We also have a democratic form of government that allows for progressive laws that our 18th-century founders might not have considered or desired.


So what about those who believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God, yet can’t reconcile some portions with a loving deity? It’s difficult to justify passages about killing witches, slaying all women and little children in a city, the blood of Jesus being on all Jews and their children, killing homosexuals, and many more. Even biblical literalists now try to interpret some of these passages in more enlightened ways.


Not only is slavery nowhere condemned in the Bible, but some have used Noah’s curse of Canaan to justify it. (“Cursed be Canaan [presumed black]! The lowest of slaves will he be to his [presumed white] brothers.”) Since nobody today condones slavery (and groups like the Southern Baptist Convention have even apologized for promoting slavery), interpretations abound. For instance, Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis says Noah’s curse had to do with a rebellious son, not skin color.


Apparently, it’s easier for some Christians to be on the moral rather than on the scientific side of history. Albert Mohler, who Time called the “reigning intellectual of the evangelical movement in the U. S., believes that the incredible Adam and Eve story goes to the heart of Christianity — because the whole point of the crucifixion and the resurrection was to undo Adam’s original sin, and that without a historical Adam, the work of Christ makes no sense.


Are you a church leader? Reach more newcomers on FaithStreet.
Treating the Bible as a history or science book makes many Christians as uncomfortable as accepting all the biblical pronouncements about women, Jews, gays, slaves, and smiting. The Bible describes a young and flat earth with four corners resting on pillars at the center of our universe. Every piece of “science” in the Bible is wrong.


I’m inspired by Thomas Jefferson and the Dalai Lama to suggest a new approach to biblical problems. Thomas Jefferson amended the Christian Bible by writing a version that left out miracle stories and included only what made sense to him. Jefferson referred to what remained as “diamonds in a dunghill.” The Dalai Lama said, “If science proves facts that conflict with Buddhist understanding, Buddhism must change accordingly.”


There are secular “bibles” for atheists, and that’s fine. Atheists and humanists accept that they are part of a natural world, the result of unguided evolutionary change, and that ethical values are derived from human needs and interests and are tested and refined by experience. No supernaturalism is needed. I’ve written a piece on biblical fables, where atheists can still find moral lessons in the traditional Bible as they do in Aesop’s fables.


But I’m proposing something different here — an amended bible devoid of passages that many God believers ignore, are embarrassed by, or interpret as the opposite of what the words say. This would not be a bible where poet William Blake could say, “Both read the Bible day and night, but thou read black where I read white.”


Who should write this new bible? Perhaps a committee of God believers who view the traditional Bible as inspired, but not inerrant, along with scientists and ethicists as advisors. After discussion, they could vote on what to include and exclude.


Is this heresy? No, it’s tradition! Roman Emperor Constantine in the 4th century brought church leaders together at the Council of Nicaea, and they voted the “word of God” into existence. And so it could be with my proposed second-chance bible for progressive religious believers, who have informally been treating the Bible as if it were a Constitution and amending it with their thoughts and behavior. I’m just suggesting that such amendments be written on paper, not tablets.


Here’s how I might start a bible from the perspective of a scientifically literate God believer. Delete “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth,” and replace it with “In the beginning of time, about 13.7 billion years ago, God created our universe with a big bang.”


I don’t believe the “God” part, but at least this bible can begin more accurately and move on to God’s “creating” the earth some 9 billion years after the big bang. The traditional Bible fits comfortably with the views of those who wrote it in a pre-scientific and misogynistic era. Scientists and humanists have since filled in many God of the gaps and moral gaps of biblical authors some 2000 to 3000 years ago.


Any second-chance bible would be far from perfect. Future generations would look back and laugh about some of our current misconceptions and prejudices, which would inspire them to write a more perfect third bible. And so on. Maybe a day will eventually come when people will accept a godless bible, just as they accept our godless Constitution.
 
Let's take a look at different laws that are different and pretend they are the same! Look... I don't care if people think Jesus was God or not as I don't believe that either were God. But Nammu's code? What has that to do with the price of wine in Tuscany?
 
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