It’s official – Chicago experienced the coldest four months ever on record

wiseones2cents said:
HMMMMMMMMMMm Last year we had the warmest winter where Lake Simcoe did not freeze over for the first time. Also we had record high temperatures in the summer. This year we have had one of the coldest winters up to date. With All of Simcoe being frozen right over with 3 feet of ice. Most ice in over 30 years.

Now what are the odds that the super warm year we had last year, contributed to a increase in ice cap melting that released huge amounts of cold water vapor into the air, resulting in super massive cold fronts moving south from the north??
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http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?61963-Friday-Funny-Common-Sense-and-Climate-Change
 
Abraxas said:
You are an intelligent man, most of the time, so bandying about hackneyed phrases like 'GW denial' is beneath you. Explain to me why there has been a halt in warming for over 17 years now, where is the heat? You cannot show me any evidence that warming is man made only computer models which are totally incapable of prediction.
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Evidence that warming is man made? What the fuck do you want, the heat to talk to you and inform you of its origin? We know what carbon dioxide does, we know we've been dumping a ton of it in the atmosphere, put two and two together. Apparently, modelling this process through computer models invalidates it, in your worldview. Physics is also wrong, because there's no evidence for it besides the PhysX code running on GPGPU's.
 
Tyrion the Imp said:
Evidence that warming is man made? What the fuck do you want, the heat to talk to you and inform you of its origin? We know what carbon dioxide does, we know we've been dumping a ton of it in the atmosphere, put two and two together. Apparently, modelling this process through computer models invalidates it, in your worldview. Physics is also wrong, because there's no evidence for it besides the PhysX code running on GPGPU's.
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Yes we also know that the IPCC approved simplified first-order approximation expression for CO2 radiative forcing is:

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where C is the CO[SUB]2[/SUB] concentration in parts per million by volume and C[SUB]0[/SUB] is the reference concentration. The relationship between carbon dioxide and radiative forcing is logarithmic, and thus increased concentrations have a progressively smaller warming effect.

This equation tells us that the resultant warming from CO2 is around 1.2C or 3.7 watts/cm2 for a doubling of CO2 concentration which at present rates won't occur until the next century. The equation is also logarithmic hence the effect attentuates with concentration. The analogy is often used of a greenhouse that is painted with black paint, the first coat cuts out most of the radiation but subsequent coats do very little. Indeed much of the warming has already occurred as many of the absorption frequencies are saturated.

Of course you then get all the warmists jumping in and concocting various positive feedback mechanisms to ramp up the horror and scare the bejesus out of people. This is what you see in the climate models yet absolutely nothing of this has actually ever been observed and a least mean squares analysis of global temperatures show that there has been no warming since 1997.
If you want to read a no nonsense discussion of CO2 and the atmosphere then I recommend this primer.

http://clivebest.com/blog/?p=1169
 
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Abraxas said:
Global warming is incredibly sneaky, the colder it gets apparently the greater the evidence for warming.

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Weather Channel producer Shawn Reynolds tweeted this incredible photo taken by pilot Hank Cain of a tundra-like Chicago, from above on January 23rd, 2014

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/01/its-official-chicago-experienced-the-coldest-four-months-ever/
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And there you have it!

It got COLD in Chicago in the WINTER!

PROOF that climate change is all just made up...
 
ZappasGuitar said:
And there you have it!

It got COLD in Chicago in the WINTER!

PROOF that climate change is all just made up...
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Well that and the total lack of any statistically significant warming warming since 1997. For the umpteen time, nobody is saying that there isn't an AGW factor due to CO2, they are saying that it has been grossly exaggerated. If you have evidence to the contrary then by all means present it.

Hi, there. I’m a Global Warming sceptic. By that I mean that I am sceptical of all but the first of the Ten Tenets of the Church of Global Warming, which are;



  1. The globe warmed over the course of the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century.
  2. The globe is warming right now.
  3. The global warming is going to continue in the future.
  4. This warming is unusual, unnatural, and unprecedented.
  5. This warming is an overall bad thing.
  6. This warming is caused mainly by increased CO2 levels in the atmosphere.
  7. Human CO2 emissions are responsible for most of the warming.
  8. Humans are capable of reducing their global CO2 emissions.
  9. A significant amount of warming could be avoided if humans reduced their CO2 emissions.
  10. The amount of CO2 emissions reductions that would be achieved by bringing in a CO2 tax will reduce the amount of global warming by a large enough amount as to be worth the economic pain that would come with the application of a CO2 tax.
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Apparently, to be a true Warmist you must confirm your belief in every one of the Ten Tenets. Declare your scepticism in just one of these and you risk being banished from the Church as a heretic.
I concede the globe warmed approximately 1 degree Celsius over the course of the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century, but I have my doubts about the other nine Tenets. But if you are a devout believer in Catastrophic Anthropogenic Global Warming (CAGW) and want to convert me to your religion then I’m going to tell you how you can
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http://joannenova.com.au/
 
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Abraxas said:
What are the voices in your head saying?
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Another pathetic comeback by a pathetic individual sucking on the cocks of the polluters! It's clear of your agenda !! Go suck on an exhaust pipe and enjoy! Every fucking scientist will tell you that we have been witnessing climate change. Only the intellectually challenged(in other words dumb dumbs) and deceivers who profit from polluting can deny this.
 
wiseones2cents said:
Another pathetic comeback by a pathetic individual sucking on the cocks of the polluters! It's clear of your agenda !! Go suck on an exhaust pipe and enjoy! Every fucking scientist will tell you that we have been witnessing climate change. Only the intellectually challenged(in other words dumb dumbs) and deceivers who profit from polluting can deny this.
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Do me a favour and read this before spouting off.

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...w-religion-of-Global-Warming-in-14-easy-steps
 
wiseones2cents said:
Another pathetic comeback by a pathetic individual sucking on the cocks of the polluters! It's clear of your agenda !! Go suck on an exhaust pipe and enjoy! Every fucking scientist will tell you that we have been witnessing climate change. Only the intellectually challenged(in other words dumb dumbs) and deceivers who profit from polluting can deny this.
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My agenda is quite clear, I have a scientific background and believe in the inviolate principle of falsifiability. I do not buy into political agendas especially left wing politicians that use climate change to further their own ends.
 
Abraxas said:
My agenda is quite clear, I have a scientific background and believe in the inviolate principle of falsifiability. I do not buy into political agendas especially left wing politicians that use climate change to further their own ends.
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AWWWW I knew you made money defending your stupidity!!! Who hired you? BP oil? Your scientific background is garbage if you do not agree the planet is warming. The warming deniers lost that debate years ago. Now the debate is not about whether the planet is warming or not. It's about what's causing it. A natural cycle or man induced!!

Scientific background my ass!
 
wiseones2cents said:
AWWWW I knew you made money defending your stupidity!!! Who hired you? BP oil? Your scientific background is garbage if you do not agree the planet is warming. The warming deniers lost that debate years ago. Now the debate is not about whether the planet is warming or not. It's about what's causing it. A natural cycle or man induced!!

Scientific background my ass!
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God it seems that Canucks are even more stupid than Americans.


Hi, there. I’m a Global Warming sceptic. By that I mean that I am sceptical of all but the first of the Ten Tenets of the Church of Global Warming, which are;


  1. The globe warmed over the course of the 20[SUP]th[/SUP] century.
  2. The globe is warming right now.
  3. The global warming is going to continue in the future.
  4. This warming is unusual, unnatural, and unprecedented.
  5. This warming is an overall bad thing.
  6. This warming is caused mainly by increased CO2 levels in the atmosphere.
  7. Human CO2 emissions are responsible for most of the warming.
  8. Humans are capable of reducing their global CO2 emissions.
  9. A significant amount of warming could be avoided if humans reduced their CO2 emissions.
  10. The amount of CO2 emissions reductions that would be achieved by bringing in a CO2 tax will reduce the amount of global warming by a large enough amount as to be worth the economic pain that would come with the application of a CO2 tax.
 
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