I wonder if JEB is behind this...

Jarod said:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/24/stand-your-ground-records_n_5007847.html

Florida Republicans move to keep the media from accessing records of those who have used the Stand Your Ground Defense.
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Has the media stated why they want that information? There was a gallery of people that used SYG at the end of that article. Most of them were mutts that probably didn't have a legal right to own a gun anyway. Screw 'em and prosecute them for unlawful possession of a firearm. But what about folks who do it right, people who may have concealed carry permits and have jumped through all the hoops. Do they deserve to have their names paraded in the press because they did the right thing? If you think the media is going to treat law abiding gun owners acting lawfully in a fair manner, you are naïve.
 
callinectes said:
Has the media stated why they want that information? There was a gallery of people that used SYG at the end of that article. Most of them were mutts that probably didn't have a legal right to own a gun anyway. Screw 'em and prosecute them for unlawful possession of a firearm. But what about folks who do it right, people who may have concealed carry permits and have jumped through all the hoops. Do they deserve to have their names paraded in the press because they did the right thing? If you think the media is going to treat law abiding gun owners acting lawfully in a fair manner, you are naïve.
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Can anyone point me in the direction of the part of the 2nd amendment that guarantees a gun owner protection from the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

Don't want to be bothered by the press, don't go practicing vigilante justice.
 
callinectes said:
Has the media stated why they want that information? There was a gallery of people that used SYG at the end of that article. Most of them were mutts that probably didn't have a legal right to own a gun anyway. Screw 'em and prosecute them for unlawful possession of a firearm. But what about folks who do it right, people who may have concealed carry permits and have jumped through all the hoops. Do they deserve to have their names paraded in the press because they did the right thing? If you think the media is going to treat law abiding gun owners acting lawfully in a fair manner, you are naïve.
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Check out the 1st Amendment.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
I've said it before...Gun Nut Righties only care about the one amendment that allows them to strap on their faux penis and gun down those who scare them.

ALL the other amendments don't matter.
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Speaking of faux penises, how's your mangina coming along? When it comes to really stupid and ignorant strawman claims, you have no peer.

But Jarod the Internet Counselor is giving you a run for your money.
 
callinectes said:
Has the media stated why they want that information? There was a gallery of people that used SYG at the end of that article. Most of them were mutts that probably didn't have a legal right to own a gun anyway. Screw 'em and prosecute them for unlawful possession of a firearm. But what about folks who do it right, people who may have concealed carry permits and have jumped through all the hoops. Do they deserve to have their names paraded in the press because they did the right thing? If you think the media is going to treat law abiding gun owners acting lawfully in a fair manner, you are naïve.
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This legislation makes perfect sense unless you are a whiney brain dead Liberal stuck on that special brand of stupid.

And no, Jarod is not naive, he is ignorant.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Can anyone point me in the direction of the part of the 2nd amendment that guarantees a gun owner protection from the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

Don't want to be bothered by the press, don't go practicing vigilante justice.
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There you have it from the leftist dumbasses; defending your life and property is nothing more than vigilante justice.
 
Jarod said:
Check out the 1st Amendment.
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What about it Counselor? This isn't a first ammendment issue. It's about the presumption of innocence until proven guilty and a media practicing malfeasance and using prosecutions to promote an idiotic anti-gun agenda smearing law abiding citizens.

What kind of Fascist mentality does it take to not comprehend what this legislation is intended to do?
 
ZappasGuitar said:
I've said it before...Gun Nut Righties only care about the one amendment that allows them to strap on their faux penis and gun down those who scare them.

ALL the other amendments don't matter.
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http://www.jewishworldreview.com/julia/gorin030802.asp

He often accuses men with guns of "compensating for something." The truth is quite the reverse. After all, how is he supposed to feel knowing there are men out there who aren't intimidated by the big bad inanimate villain? How is he to feel in the face of adolescent boys who have used the family gun effectively in defending the family from an armed intruder? So if he can't touch a gun, he doesn't want other men to be able to either. And to achieve his ends, he'll use the only weapon he knows how to manipulate: the law.

Of course, sexual and psychological insecurities don't account for ALL men against guns. Certainly there must be some whose motives are pure, who perhaps do care so much as to tirelessly look for policy solutions to teenage void and aggressiveness, and to parent and teacher negligence. But for a potentially large underlying contributor, psycho-sexual inadequacy has gone unexplored and unacknowledged. It's one thing to not be comfortable with a firearm and therefore opt to not keep or bear one. But it's another to impose the same handicap onto others.
 
Most Court proceedings and most other government action are required to be public in Florida. Sunshine laws. As it should be.

The media is constitutionally protected and allowed to publish anything. Of course, like all Constitutional protections there are some limits.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Can anyone point me in the direction of the part of the 2nd amendment that guarantees a gun owner protection from the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

Don't want to be bothered by the press, don't go practicing vigilante justice.
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it's called the right of self preservation, dumbass.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Does the 1st Amendment allow for the intentional defamation of character of people who have exercised their right to self preservation because cowards are afraid of guns?
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How is reporting the facts and the truth defamation of character?
 
Jarod said:
Most Court proceedings and most other government action are required to be public in Florida. Sunshine laws. As it should be.

The media is constitutionally protected and allowed to publish anything. Of course, like all Constitutional protections there are some limits.
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But that isn't what this legislation is all about is to Counselor? I'm quite sure you would prefer to engage in your typical dishonest obfuscations and deflections to hide your ineptness as a lawyer than answer these questions.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
Does the 1st Amendment allow for the intentional defamation of character of people who have exercised their right to self preservation because cowards are afraid of guns?
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If reporting the truth defames ones character, yes, the First protects that. I thought you were a supporter of Constitutional rights?
 
Jarod said:
How is reporting the facts and the truth defamation of character?
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But that isn't what this legislation is about is it Counselor? It is actually about preventing defamation of character after one is proven innocent of the charges under this law. Do you think it is okay for the media to pursue and defame those who have been adjudicated as innocent for the rest of their lives based on an ignorant anti-gun agenda?

Are you okay with the constant media pursuit of Zimmerman? If so why? Is he no longer presumed innocent under the law until he is proven guilty?

Why are Liberals such Fascists?
 
I'm still waiting for something intelligent and coherent that ties Jeb Bush to this legislation, and why it is presumed to be a bad thing politically.
 
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