The coming extinction of social conservatives

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The old farts will continue to cost Republicans elections but they won't be replenished.

61% of young Republicans favor same-sex marriage

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/10/61-of-young-republicans-favor-same-sex-marriage/

Young people continue to be the strongest proponents of same-sex marriage. And as public support for same-sex marriage continues to grow, the gap between young and old is nowhere more striking than within the Republican coalition.


Today, 61% of Republicans and Republican leaners under 30 favor same-sex marriage while just 35% oppose it. By contrast, just 27% of Republicans ages 50 and older favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry.


This generation gap among Republicans comes against a backdrop of rapidly changing public opinion overall on the issue. More than half the public (54%) now favors allowing gays and lesbians to legally marry, a record high in Pew Research surveys, in keeping with findings from other recent polls. Democrats and Republicans remain on opposite sides of the issue, with 69% of Democrats and Democratic leaning independents favoring same-sex marriage compared with 39% Republicans and Republican leaners.


Young Republicans' views on gay familiesOn this issue, young Republicans’ views are more in line with Democrats. And while support for gay marriage is higher among younger Democrats and Democratic leaners than older Democrats, even Democrats 65 and older favor same-sex marriage by a margin of about two-to-one.


The relative liberalism of young Republicans on issues of homosexuality goes beyond their support for gay marriage. Just 18% of Republicans under 30 say “more gay and lesbian couples raising children” is a bad thing for American society, while 26% say it is a good thing (56% either say it doesn’t make a difference or they don’t know). By comparison, majorities or pluralities of older Republicans say this trend is a bad thing for society.
 
Yes, the Revolution in the Republican party is almost over and the Social Conservatives lost. The Tea Party group has basically abandoned its connection to Social Conservatism in favor of a fiscal platform. Its a win for America.

Now, its going to take a small amount of time for the Republicans to put themselves back together, but the integration of the Tea Party back into the establishment of the Republican Party has already begun. Randall Paul was out last week actively campaigning against Libertarian alternatives, so that should tell you something.
 
Jarod said:
Yes, the Revolution in the Republican party is almost over and the Social Conservatives lost. The Tea Party group has basically abandoned its connection to Social Conservatism in favor of a fiscal platform. Its a win for America.

Now, its going to take a small amount of time for the Republicans to put themselves back together, but the integration of the Tea Party back into the establishment of the Republican Party has already begun. Randall Paul was out last week actively campaigning against Libertarian alternatives, so that should tell you something.
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It's a surprise to you that Rand Paul, who wants to run for the Republican Presidential nomination, didn't campaign against a Republican?
 
cawacko said:
It's a surprise to you that Rand Paul, who wants to run for the Republican Presidential nomination, didn't campaign against a Republican?
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No, it simply is a surprise to me that many of his supporters continue to believe he is a libertarian.
 
I think a more accurate assessment is that gay rights is not going to be a live political issue in the not too distant future. Social conservatives will always be around. They'll just have something else to whine about (in addition to abortion).
 
cawacko said:
It's a surprise to you that Rand Paul, who wants to run for the Republican Presidential nomination, didn't campaign against a Republican?
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It's not that he did not campaign against him. He is making himself available as a tool against real Libertarians, like Overby and Sarvus.
 
Bonestorm said:
I think a more accurate assessment is that gay rights is not going to be a live political issue in the not too distant future. Social conservatives will always be around. They'll just have something else to whine about (in addition to abortion).
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They won't always be around as a relevant force. What sort of issues do you imagine they will have left?

Even abortion is likely to become less contentious once religion starts to fade and it will.
 
His position on Marriage equality and preferential treatment of Christians for example.
 
Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
They won't always be around as a relevant force. What sort of issues do you imagine they will have left?

Even abortion is likely to become less contentious once religion starts to fade and it will.
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As technology improves with each passing decade, we have learned more and more about the human genome, we have learned to detect heart beat and brain waves far earlier than thought possible 30 years ago etc... The more the tech improves, the more you are going to see abortion come back to the forefront. Those of you who dehumanize the unborn child will become more and more embarrassed for your ignorance.
 
Hasa Diga Eebowai said:
They won't always be around as a relevant force. What sort of issues do you imagine they will have left?

Even abortion is likely to become less contentious once religion starts to fade and it will.
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I am sad to report that from where I sit, this is exactly the truth. And as I have just gone through my last class of the day, a class full of mostly religion-less 9th graders (at this point 14-15 year olds), my heart weeps for the future of my country.
 
leaningright said:
I am sad to report that from where I sit, this is exactly the truth. And as I have just gone through my last class of the day, a class full of mostly religion-less 9th graders (at this point 14-15 year olds), my heart weeps for the future of my country.
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Do you believe most of these kids won't turn to religion in the future?
 
cawacko said:
Do you believe most of these kids won't turn to religion in the future?
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Just my two cents... but what would drive them towards religion? I think (but could be wrong) that the normal trend is that more fall away from religion as they get older. Not the reverse.
 
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