Issa caught BS'ing on FOX

Notice how all the angry, partisan Righties are so very ready to discuss how "stand down" can mean anything they like, but not a one of them wants to discuss how their original claim, THAT A STAND DOWN ORDER WAS ISSUED, is total bullshit.
Her "failure to plan, failure to listen, failure to react" got five Americans killed.
 
How about that?

No one wants to discuss the fact no stand down order was given and that the partisan asshats on FAUX News lied their asses off for months about Benghazi.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Once again, our willfully ignorant teabagger toadie Nova displays the sheer idiocy that has allowed the GOP to play him and others for fools to vote for them.

Note that Nova left out this part of the quote:


WALLACE: But to be honest, you do not have any evidence that Secretary Clinton told Leon Panetta to stand down.

That was Issa's original accusation. Now he spins like a dervish with this "might be, should be, can be" baloney.

Issa is a crook who has no credibility beyond what money the rabid right wing corporatist throw behind him...and the right wing media propagandize.


Well, you being a spin master of bullshit might just note that I never claimed "Secretary Clinton told Leon Panetta to stand down".


After the attacks ended without planes being scrambled or special forces dispatched, the lieutenant colonel in Tripoli who commanded the Special Operations team told Hicks he was sorry that his men had been held back.

Is the lieutenant colonel in Tripoli who commanded the Special Operations team a liar ?....because that is exactly what you're claiming.

Did he claim that he was told to "stand down" via the State Dept./Hillary Clinton?

Nope.

And for the record, no one gives a damn what your personal opinion is here, bunky. Issa is the one making all the noise on Capitol Hill, YET when caught flat footed, he can't pony up the proof and tries to BS his way out. YOU put out an excerpt, leaving out information that nullified your supposition and conjecture.

Again, only an idiot would buy into Issa's nonsense...as you so aptly demonstrate.
 
Did he claim that he was told to "stand down" via the State Dept./Hillary Clinton?

Nope.

And for the record, no one gives a damn what your personal opinion is here, bunky. Issa is the one making all the noise on Capitol Hill, YET when caught flat footed, he can't pony up the proof and tries to BS his way out. YOU put out an excerpt, leaving out information that nullified your supposition and conjecture.

Again, only an idiot would buy into Issa's nonsense...as you so aptly demonstrate.

What's the difference! --typical woman argument.
 
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Did he claim that he was told to "stand down" via the State Dept./Hillary Clinton?

Nope.

And for the record, no one gives a damn what your personal opinion is here, bunky. Issa is the one making all the noise on Capitol Hill, YET when caught flat footed, he can't pony up the proof and tries to BS his way out. YOU put out an excerpt, leaving out information that nullified your supposition and conjecture.

Again, only an idiot would buy into Issa's nonsense...as you so aptly demonstrate.


What's the difference! --typical woman argument.

Translation: this dopey Zombie with his ass in his hat was exposed as a teabagger toadie of limit intelligence early on in this thread, so now he's' just spewing sour grapes.

Pathetic, but not unexpected.
 
Translation: this dopey Zombie with his ass in his hat was exposed as a teabagger toadie of limit intelligence early on in this thread, so now he's' just spewing sour grapes.

Pathetic, but not unexpected.


The rants of TCpinhead always bring so much to the debate, we just don't know where to start......lmao
 
The rants of TCpinhead always bring so much to the debate, we just don't know where to start......lmao

And to date YOU cannot refute the FACT that Issa made an accusation that CANNOT be supported, documented or verified.

In short, he's lying...and willfully ignorant clods like yourself will follow him right of the cliff. Carry on.
 
And to date YOU cannot refute the FACT that Issa made an accusation that CANNOT be supported, documented or verified.

In short, he's lying...and willfully ignorant clods like yourself will follow him right of the cliff. Carry on.

Lying ?...well, here is the direct quote, in context, that is in question....

“We need to have an answer of when the secretary of defense had assets that he could have begun spinning up. Why there was not one order given to turn on one Department of Defense asset? I have my suspicions, which is Secretary Clinton told Leon [Panetta] to stand down, and we all heard about the stand-down order for two military personnel. That order is undeniable. They were told not to get on — get off the airplane and kind of stand by — and they’re going to characterize it wasn’t stand down.

But when we’re done with Benghazi, the real question is, was there a stand-down order to Leon Panetta or did he just not do his job? Was there a stand-down order from the president who said he told them to use their resources and they didn’t use them? Those questions have to be answered.”
You can characterize his words however you want. You can ignore the phrase "I have my suspicions", but it is a qualifier to
the rest of the sentence....
You can ignore the phrase "Was there" and accuse him of claiming the president gave a stand down order, too....
so do whatever you must, you will see it however you need to see.

As a matter of fact here is the video of Issa and Walace doing the interview....
http://tinyurl.com/k4dtg73
 
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Lying ?...well, here is the direct quote, in context, that is in question....


You can characterize his words however you want. You can ignore the phrase "I have my suspicions", but it is a qualifier to
the rest of the sentence....
You can ignore the phrase "Was there" and accuse him of claiming the president gave a stand down order, too....
so do whatever you must, you will see it however you need to see.

As a matter of fact here is the video of Issa and Walace doing the interview....
http://tinyurl.com/k4dtg73


"I have my suspicions..."

Translation: What I FEEL happened even though I can't PROVE anything.

"Was there a stand down order..."

Translation: I have no proof but 'm going to act like I do and tell everyone I think there was such an order...
 
"I have my suspicions..."

Translation: What I FEEL happened even though I can't PROVE anything.

"Was there a stand down order..."

Translation: I have no proof but 'm going to act like I do and tell everyone I think there was such an order...

Actually, we don't need you personal translations, opinions or conjecture....the video speaks for itself
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Stand Down order, or however you want to characterize it.....?

The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration, which insisted that nobody was ever told to stand down and that all available resources were utilized.

Hicks testified he was standing next to a U.S. Army Special Forces officer that night who was instructed not to assist in efforts to secure and evacuate American personnel from Benghazi.
http://tinyurl.com/koqahm9
http://tinyurl.com/lxp727u
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Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood Special Forces on security.
http://tinyurl.com/aglhext
 
Lying ?...well, here is the direct quote, in context, that is in question....


You can characterize his words however you want. You can ignore the phrase "I have my suspicions", but it is a qualifier to
the rest of the sentence....
You can ignore the phrase "Was there" and accuse him of claiming the president gave a stand down order, too....
so do whatever you must, you will see it however you need to see.

As a matter of fact here is the video of Issa and Walace doing the interview....
http://tinyurl.com/k4dtg73


you're still buying his bullshit....he ignores facts to pursue a "suspicion". Pathetic.
 
Actually, we don't need you personal translations, opinions or conjecture....the video speaks for itself
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Stand Down order, or however you want to characterize it.....?

The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command Africa.
The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration, which insisted that nobody was ever told to stand down and that all available resources were utilized.

Hicks testified he was standing next to a U.S. Army Special Forces officer that night who was instructed not to assist in efforts to secure and evacuate American personnel from Benghazi.
http://tinyurl.com/koqahm9
http://tinyurl.com/lxp727u
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Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood Special Forces on security.
http://tinyurl.com/aglhext


Unfounded, third party HEARSAY.

Call me when you've got some actual FACTS.
 
Unfounded, third party HEARSAY.

Call me when you've got some actual FACTS.


A man testifies to what he personally saw and heard and it third party hearsay


Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood Special Forces on security tenders an affidavit and you call it third party hearsay


Are you really as stupid as TD claims you are ?


Keep diggin' that hole, buffy....
 
A man testifies to what he personally saw and heard and it third party hearsay


Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood Special Forces on security tenders an affidavit and you call it third party hearsay


Are you really as stupid as TD claims you are ?


Keep diggin' that hole, buffy....

please quote from LtCol. Wood's affidavit about any stand down order the day of the attacks in Benghazi.
 
please quote from LtCol. Wood's affidavit about any stand down order the day of the attacks in Benghazi.

.... LtCol. Wood's affidavit concerns embassy security while he was in country...
He plainly states he served as the Site Security Team (SST) Commander in Libya from 12 February to 14 August of this year, 2012.....
so he obviously hasn't there when the attacked occured....

I thought it was plain in the heading, "Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood Special Forces on security" made it plain about the subject matter of his affidavit...

Does this mean you're really as stupid as TD has been claiming ?....its beginning to look that way to the rest of us....BTW...did you
answer my questions in the other thread yet ?..
 
.... LtCol. Wood's affidavit concerns embassy security while he was in country...
He plainly states he served as the Site Security Team (SST) Commander in Libya from 12 February to 14 August of this year, 2012.....
so he obviously hasn't there when the attacked occured....

I thought it was plain in the heading, "Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood Special Forces on security" made it plain about the subject matter of his affidavit...

Does this mean you're really as stupid as TD has been claiming ?....its beginning to look that way to the rest of us....BTW...did you
answer my questions in the other thread yet ?..

so the hearsay clearly was not Colonel Wood's, nor did anyone say it was.... it WAS Hick's, however.... he was standing next to a guy who claimed he got a phone call from another guy.... that's classic third party hearsay, and your statement
Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood Special Forces on security tenders an affidavit and you call it third party hearsay
was a classic smokescreen.... his testimony was not hearsay, it just had jackshit to do with the events on the day of the attack.

moron. pollywog. landlubber.... you might as well have had been in the army. douchebag.
 
A man testifies to what he personally saw and heard and it third party hearsay


Lieutenant Colonel Andrew Wood Special Forces on security tenders an affidavit and you call it third party hearsay


Are you really as stupid as TD claims you are ?


Keep diggin' that hole, buffy....

Where's the testimony from the Special Forces officer who supposedly got the order.

Where is the testimony from whomever GAVE the order.

Pentagon spokesmen had previously stated that no U.S. assets were ever told to "stand down" the night of the attack in Benghazi. Air Force Maj. Rob Firman told USA Today Tuesday that the military's account of this response "hasn't changed."

"There was never any kind of stand down order to anybody,"
Firman said.

Well, that seems to contradict what you claimed...

Nope...all you've got is unfounded HEARSAY.
 
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