Anyone remember this quote?

9/11 was caused by interventionism by the US into the affairs of the countries where all of the top three holy spots for muslims are located. We did so for perfectly rational reasons: insurance that oil would keep flowing from Saudi Arabia (home of the top two) and our ethical commitment to Israel (home of the third). Even though our reasons were rational and explainable, they were unacceptable to radical Islamic elements (AQ) and we paid a price for that interventionism. We knew the risks going in. We got the shit end of the stick for one day... Islam, however, will not be able to parlay that one day of victory into anything sustainable or global in scope, imho.

LMAO; yeah shit-for-brains. It had nothing to do with Islamic extremist terrorists. It had nothing to do with the massive failure of leadership shown by Clinton and his feckless check the latest poll policies did it dunce?

You're a pathetic moron you know that. You really are a dumbass of epic proportions. Fucking idiot.
 
Our interventionism goes way further back than that. We have frequently deposed and subplanted the leaders of those countries, embargoed them for not going along with what we (the West) wants and repeatidly invaded them. I think they have had more than ample reason to bear animosity towards us. It would be far better, both in the short and the long term, to stop financing the defense of useless allies (all our allies are useless) and instead return to our own concerns as a nation.

American Troops for American soil, American money for American citizens.

You're as painfully stupid and uninformed as Commander shit-for-brains. I guess we should not have liberated Kuwait or prevented Iraq's megalomaniacal desire to dominate her Arab neighbors. May e we should have pretended 9-11 never happened and made peace with Al Qaeda? I guess we should have caved into Iranian extremists when they invaded US soil and took over our embassy and made our people hostages?

Russia invaded Afghanistan, meddled in the poitical affairs of every nation in the Middle East, but they weren't a target. Any guesses why?

Idiots like you are simple minded fools too stupid for words and so fucking naive that you believe that terrorists,despots, tyrants and dictators can be trusted and reasoned with.
 
the Sudetenland issue is none of our fucking business. We can express our concern and our deep regret and all the other diplomatic weasel words we can throw out there, but at the end of the day, it is none of our fucking business.

FTFY
 
You're as painfully stupid and uninformed as Commander shit-for-brains.

They're hoping to get through the rest of their lives beaming up on legalized marijuana in peace. What type of country/world we hand off to the next generation, they don't give a shit.
 
"After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama's reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia's Putin to invade Ukraine next."

The individual who made this claim was castigated and ridiculed. But, apparently she was dead on balls accurate.

Bullshit! As you know, the problem was caused by 'Western'-backed Nazis overthrowing the elected government in a near-neighbour of Russian. Unlike the USA, which so welcomed the liberation of Cuba, the Russians look after their own interests - and, in this case - their own people. It might be an idea if the American weirdoes followed the same policy. You arseholes really want a war with Russia, do you? Grow up!
 
So as a Marxist you sort of view this episode as Obama burning the Reichstag?

Nothing to do with socialism - the reactionary nutters in your Country STILL believe they can dominate the world by beating their hollow chests and squeaking. If they attack Russia they will learn otherwise, and everyone knows it. I don't know who encouraged the Nazis in the Ukraine - the same people, probably, who finance the Tea Party and the anti-EU nutters here. You don't have to be consistent if you are mad.
 
Nothing to do with socialism - the reactionary nutters in your Country STILL believe they can dominate the world by beating their hollow chests and squeaking. If they attack Russia they will learn otherwise, and everyone knows it. I don't know who encouraged the Nazis in the Ukraine - the same people, probably, who finance the Tea Party and the anti-EU nutters here. You don't have to be consistent if you are mad.

Ummm, no. The Tea Party is not a foreign policy interest group.

The only player I see on the field with a interest in making Putin look bad would be Obama, seeking revenge for Putin making him look impotent on the Syrian and Iranian issues. And if this was indeed a preconceived effort that failed so miserably, that failure just adds Obama's fingerprints to the existing case of him being the likely culprit.

But even that doesn't fly too much with me. Obama balked at helping provide Poland with defenses against Russia, which had been put together by President Bush. So why would Ukraine be different?

I still remember that open mic comment Obama made about telling Vladimir he'd have more latitude after the election... My strongest hunch? Obama hates the United States and much of this activity is a facade to assist Putin in reassembling the Soviet empire.

But that's just a hunch based on nothing, like your Tea Party and anti-EU hunch.
 
Ummm, no. The Tea Party is not a foreign policy interest group.

The only player I see on the field with a interest in making Putin look bad would be Obama, seeking revenge for Putin making him look impotent on the Syrian and Iranian issues. And if this was indeed a preconceived effort that failed so miserably, that failure just adds Obama's fingerprints to the existing case of him being the likely culprit.

But even that doesn't fly too much with me. Obama balked at helping provide Poland with defenses against Russia, which had been put together by President Bush. So why would Ukraine be different?

I still remember that open mic comment Obama made about telling Vladimir he'd have more latitude after the election... My strongest hunch? Obama hates the United States and much of this activity is a facade to assist Putin in reassembling the Soviet empire.

But that's just a hunch based on nothing, like your Tea Party and anti-EU hunch.

The rich want everything, everywhere, NOW, as you know, and they hate anyone who is not kissing their arses. That's obvious, surely, and what more needs to be said?
 
The rich want everything, everywhere, NOW, as you know, and they hate anyone who is not kissing their arses. That's obvious, surely, and what more needs to be said?

The most glaring capitalist influence in this would be Putin's oil pipelines out to international markets, his greatest source of hard currency.... which happen to run through the Ukraine.

International capitalists would be more concerned about having that oil on the market than in a happy and independent Ukraine.
 
The most glaring capitalist influence in this would be Putin's oil pipelines out to international markets, his greatest source of hard currency.... which happen to run through the Ukraine.

International capitalists would be more concerned about having that oil on the market than in a happy and independent Ukraine.

Russian-centred international thieves, yes. Yours have longer arms for other people's pockets.
 
Palin reading four scenarios in a campaign speech and righties think she's the Oracle of Delphi.

"... the evidence of Palin’s alleged prophecy was a trifling passage from a campaign speech she gave in October of 2008. Although she was obviously reading from a TelePrompter a speech that was surely written for her by McCain staffers, the substance of her remarks fell somewhat short of the clairvoyance about which she is boasting. If you look beyond the brief reference to Russia, it is apparent that her prognostication skills are sorely lacking. Nevertheless, the right-wing media machine is in full distribution mode to hype this phony grab for undeserved credit. Everyone from the so-called mainstream, yet lie-riddled Fox Nation, to the wingnuttery of Breitbart News is regurgitating Palin’s boast. But the truth is readily available in her stump speech forecast (video below) that contained what she called the “Four Crisis Scenarios” that would accompany an Obama administration. It’s a bundle of wrongness that will be hard for future political fakers to exceed.

Crisis Scenario #1
was that Obama was “proposing to meet with the regime in Tehran that vows to wipe Israel off the earth.” Of course this never happened, so Palin is starting out with a wild swing and a miss. What did happen was that sanctions implemented by the Obama administration, and diplomatic efforts to unify the international community to oppose Iran’s nuclear weapons program, forced Iran to capitulate, cease development, and agree to inspections.

Crisis Scenario #2
concerned Obama’s advocacy of “sending our U.S. military into Pakistan, without the approval of the Pakistani government, invading the sovereign territory of a troubled partner in the war on terrorism.” Indeed, Obama held open the option of taking action to pursue dangerous terrorists when our so-called allies refused to do so. However, this is the policy that rid the world of Osama Bin Laden, a conclusion that would not have been achieved had Palin’s protocol been in effect.

Crisis Scenario #3
criticized Obama’s position on Iraq when he “voted to cut off funding for our troops leaving our young men and women at grave risk in the war zone.” In reality Obama eliminated the grave risks faced by our troops when he pledged to end the Iraq war and bring the troops home. It was Palin who advocated leaving those young men and women in the war zone.

Crisis Scenario #4
is the money scenario. This is where Palin said that “After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia’s Putin to invade Ukraine next.” Notice that Palin did not say what Obama’s response was or why it would encourage Putin in future military endeavors. For the record, here is what both Obama and John McCain said at the time:

Obama:
There is no possible justification for these attacks. I reiterate my call for Russia to stop its bombing campaign, to stop flights of Russian aircraft in Georgian airspace, and to withdraw its ground forces from Georgia.

McCain:
Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory.


If Obama was indecisive and lacking moral fortitude, it was in exactly the same measure as Palin’s running mate, McCain. Palin’s remarks were nothing more than the typical carping that occurs in campaigns that have nothing of substance to say. Instead, Palin asserts an absurd scenario wherein Putin would require “encouragement” to engage in military aggression, as if he’s looking to the west for validation. If that’s so, what did George W. Bush do to encourage Putin to invade Georgia?

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=11594
 
They're hoping to get through the rest of their lives beaming up on legalized marijuana in peace. What type of country/world we hand off to the next generation, they don't give a shit.

Amazing isn't it? One thing we do know about Liberals; they never learn from history. They really are stuoid enough to think that if we keep repeating history enough, they will get different outcomes.
 
Bullshit! As you know, the problem was caused by 'Western'-backed Nazis overthrowing the elected government in a near-neighbour of Russian. Unlike the USA, which so welcomed the liberation of Cuba, the Russians look after their own interests - and, in this case - their own people. It might be an idea if the American weirdoes followed the same policy. You arseholes really want a war with Russia, do you? Grow up!

LMAO; there you have it from the Communust dunce himself. Russia = good; AmeriKa = Bad.

Any questions?
 
Nothing to do with socialism - the reactionary nutters in your Country STILL believe they can dominate the world by beating their hollow chests and squeaking. If they attack Russia they will learn otherwise, and everyone knows it. I don't know who encouraged the Nazis in the Ukraine - the same people, probably, who finance the Tea Party and the anti-EU nutters here. You don't have to be consistent if you are mad.

LMAO @ attack Russia. You're too fucking stupid you dunce.
 
Ummm, no. The Tea Party is not a foreign policy interest group.

The only player I see on the field with a interest in making Putin look bad would be Obama, seeking revenge for Putin making him look impotent on the Syrian and Iranian issues. And if this was indeed a preconceived effort that failed so miserably, that failure just adds Obama's fingerprints to the existing case of him being the likely culprit.

But even that doesn't fly too much with me. Obama balked at helping provide Poland with defenses against Russia, which had been put together by President Bush. So why would Ukraine be different?

I still remember that open mic comment Obama made about telling Vladimir he'd have more latitude after the election... My strongest hunch? Obama hates the United States and much of this activity is a facade to assist Putin in reassembling the Soviet empire.

But that's just a hunch based on nothing, like your Tea Party and anti-EU hunch.

BINGO!
 
The rich want everything, everywhere, NOW, as you know, and they hate anyone who is not kissing their arses. That's obvious, surely, and what more needs to be said?

I it's not Bush who is to blame, its the rich; according to the small miserable pathetic minds of Communist clowns.

:thisisgettinggood:
 
Putin is not going to invade the Ukraine. He never was going to invade the Ukraine.

A leftist geographic dunce who doesn't know the crimea is part of Ukraine, where, 15,000 "Soviet" strm troopers wearing ski masks have invaded and surrounded Ukranian military establishments ordering them to disarm.

:thisisgettinggood:
 
Palin reading four scenarios in a campaign speech and righties think she's the Oracle of Delphi.

"... the evidence of Palin’s alleged prophecy was a trifling passage from a campaign speech she gave in October of 2008. Although she was obviously reading from a TelePrompter a speech that was surely written for her by McCain staffers, the substance of her remarks fell somewhat short of the clairvoyance about which she is boasting. If you look beyond the brief reference to Russia, it is apparent that her prognostication skills are sorely lacking. Nevertheless, the right-wing media machine is in full distribution mode to hype this phony grab for undeserved credit. Everyone from the so-called mainstream, yet lie-riddled Fox Nation, to the wingnuttery of Breitbart News is regurgitating Palin’s boast. But the truth is readily available in her stump speech forecast (video below) that contained what she called the “Four Crisis Scenarios” that would accompany an Obama administration. It’s a bundle of wrongness that will be hard for future political fakers to exceed.

Crisis Scenario #1
was that Obama was “proposing to meet with the regime in Tehran that vows to wipe Israel off the earth.” Of course this never happened, so Palin is starting out with a wild swing and a miss. What did happen was that sanctions implemented by the Obama administration, and diplomatic efforts to unify the international community to oppose Iran’s nuclear weapons program, forced Iran to capitulate, cease development, and agree to inspections.

Crisis Scenario #2
concerned Obama’s advocacy of “sending our U.S. military into Pakistan, without the approval of the Pakistani government, invading the sovereign territory of a troubled partner in the war on terrorism.” Indeed, Obama held open the option of taking action to pursue dangerous terrorists when our so-called allies refused to do so. However, this is the policy that rid the world of Osama Bin Laden, a conclusion that would not have been achieved had Palin’s protocol been in effect.

Crisis Scenario #3
criticized Obama’s position on Iraq when he “voted to cut off funding for our troops leaving our young men and women at grave risk in the war zone.” In reality Obama eliminated the grave risks faced by our troops when he pledged to end the Iraq war and bring the troops home. It was Palin who advocated leaving those young men and women in the war zone.

Crisis Scenario #4
is the money scenario. This is where Palin said that “After the Russian Army invaded the nation of Georgia, Senator Obama’s reaction was one of indecision and moral equivalence, the kind of response that would only encourage Russia’s Putin to invade Ukraine next.” Notice that Palin did not say what Obama’s response was or why it would encourage Putin in future military endeavors. For the record, here is what both Obama and John McCain said at the time:

Obama:
There is no possible justification for these attacks. I reiterate my call for Russia to stop its bombing campaign, to stop flights of Russian aircraft in Georgian airspace, and to withdraw its ground forces from Georgia.

McCain:
Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory.


If Obama was indecisive and lacking moral fortitude, it was in exactly the same measure as Palin’s running mate, McCain. Palin’s remarks were nothing more than the typical carping that occurs in campaigns that have nothing of substance to say. Instead, Palin asserts an absurd scenario wherein Putin would require “encouragement” to engage in military aggression, as if he’s looking to the west for validation. If that’s so, what did George W. Bush do to encourage Putin to invade Georgia?

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=11594

Another clueless cut and paste job from a less than credible leftist blog; color me shocked.

False claim#1; Iran has not ceased in its enrichment processes and there still is no agreement to do so.

False Claim #2; the "Pakistan" invasion option had nothing to do with taking out OBL and any sitting President given the same options would have acted similarly.

False Claim#3; the idiotic and stupid premise that withdrawing our troops from Iraq has made anyone safer. The Liberal lie was that our troops presence was causing the killing. Since leaving attacks on civilian and police targets have escalated .

False Claim #4; the equivalency claim is probably the weakest and most comedic argument ever made by partisans. Palin indeed hit the nail on the head during the Georgian crisis.

What we do know is that Obamas indecisive ineptness is laughed at by just about everyone other than the brain dead dunces who still desperately make excuses for this pathetic buffoon.

Obama couldn't tell anyone to stand down because after all his anti-AmeriKa rhetoric and efforts to withdraw from all of our commitments in the world, not to mention his never ending "red-line" which he never backs up, everyone knows he will nt engage with force and laugh at his threats.

Those are the relevant facts and realities his nation, as a consequence of naive and divisive rhetoric, now has to come to terms with. Liberals, like Obama, are naive and still have a Chamberlain type naïveté that terrorists, tyrants, despots and dictators can be reasoned with and trusted.
 
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