4 Police Tricks to Nab You For Pot and How You Can Beat Them

Rune said:
No, not the court (judge) ruling, it was the jury and it was the jury itself that was incorrect.
2.Show where I said they mishandled the evidence. I didn't.
3.The idiots didn't file charges until the feds threatened them. That doesn't mean there was no reason, or they would have resisted fed pressure, but then, you are a moron.
4. Yes, but I don't think the hounds of Hades could stop your incoherent blubbering.
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Sure looks like the crime scene wasn't handled properly. I know they couldn't do anything about the rain but securing the vehicle, taking pictures and drug testing should have happened.

¶ On the night of the shooting, door-to-door canvassing was not exhaustive enough, said a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation. If officers had been more thorough, they might have determined that Mr. Martin, 17, was a guest — as opposed to an intruder — at a gated community called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. That would have been an important part of the subjective analysis that night by officers sizing up Mr. Zimmerman’s story. Investigators found no witnesses who saw the fight start. Others saw parts of a struggle they could not clearly observe or hear. One witness, though, provided information to the police that corroborated Mr. Zimmerman’s account of the struggle, according to a law enforcement official.

¶ The police took only one photo at the scene of any of Mr. Zimmerman’s injuries — a full-face picture of him that showed a bloodied nose — before paramedics tended to him. It was shot on a department cellphone camera and was not downloaded for a few days, an oversight by the officer who took it.

¶ The vehicle that Mr. Zimmerman was driving when he first spotted Mr. Martin was mistakenly not secured by officers as part of the crime scene. The vehicle was an important link in the fatal encounter because it was where Mr. Zimmerman called the police to report a suspicious teenager in a hooded sweatshirt roaming through the Retreat. Mr. Zimmerman also said he was walking back to the vehicle when he was confronted by Mr. Martin, who was unarmed, before shooting him.

¶ The police were not able to cover the crime scene to shield evidence from the rain, and any blood from cuts that Mr. Zimmerman suffered when he said Mr. Martin pounded his head into a sidewalk may have been washed away.

¶ The police did not test Mr. Zimmerman for alcohol or drug use that night, and one witness said the lead investigator quickly jumped to a conclusion that it was Mr. Zimmerman, and not Mr. Martin, who cried for help during the struggle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/u...-by-police-missteps.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&
 
Taft2016 said:
I understand all of that. I do read your posts, including the court case you cited.

Perhaps you can enlighten STY; in your jurisdiction, did you happen to present all police firearms discharges that struck individuals to grand juries. They do in New York City.

Can you explain that the decision to/not to prosecute such incidents does not rest solely within the confines of the police department itself?
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That was an issue that was above my pay grade, however... my office had a policy, police firearm cases were divided into three categories... Red, yellow, green. Red was clear that the officer should be charged and was automatically direct filed skipping the grand jury, green was clear that the officer should not be charged again skipping the grand jury. Yellow were questionable cases that went to the Grand Jury.

A word on Grand Jury's, they are really only used as political cover, because what occurs is confidential and kept away from the press, the prosecutor is the only person making any presentation, and the rules are very lenient, in more than 99% of the cases the Grand Jury simply rubber stamps the requests of the Prosecution. So the if the Prosecutor does not want someone indicted, they go to the grand jury, present a weak case, tell the GJ not to issue an inditement and they don't. Then if the Press asks, the prosecutor says... I presented the case to the GJ, they refused to issue an inditement, its out of my hands.
 
Jarod said:
That was an issue that was above my pay grade, however... my office had a policy, police firearm cases were divided into three categories... Red, yellow, green. Red was clear that the officer should be charged and was automatically direct filed skipping the grand jury, green was clear that the officer should not be charged again skipping the grand jury. Yellow were questionable cases that went to the Grand Jury.

A word on Grand Jury's, they are really only used as political cover, because what occurs is confidential and kept away from the press, the prosecutor is the only person making any presentation, and the rules are very lenient, in more than 99% of the cases the Grand Jury simply rubber stamps the requests of the Prosecution. So the if the Prosecutor does not want someone indicted, they go to the grand jury, present a weak case, tell the GJ not to issue an inditement and they don't. Then if the Press asks, the prosecutor says... I presented the case to the GJ, they refused to issue an inditement, its out of my hands.
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Interesting how a former prosecutor can misspell "juries" and "indictment."

But, thanks for the answer anyway.
 
Taft2016 said:
Interesting how a former prosecutor can misspell "juries" and "indictment."

But, thanks for the answer anyway.
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One of the obstacles of my life has been small minded people who felt that because I was unable to spell... it meant that It was not possible I would be able to do x, y, or z.

My grandfather was a civil engineer, he was a worse speller than me.
My father was an architect, he was a worse speller than me.

Thank God they were my role models. Had I listened to people who think like you, lord knows where I would be. I remember a teacher who told me the my spelling led her to believe I was unlikely to be able to graduate high school and should reconsider my options.
 
Rune said:
No, shit for brains, the "court" refers specifically to the judge. The jury is known as the jury. You would think an ex prison guard would know this, but the IQ standard for prison guards is even lower than for cops, isn't it?
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A jury is considered to be part of the Court and as to what a prison guard would or would know, I have no idea. ;D
 
Rune said:
Yes, tough shit, for Travon, his family and loved ones, and children (especially black) anywhere this cursed law still stands.

It is nice to see that Dunn will likely die in prison; Zimmerman will die by the sword since he lived by the sword.
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Does that mean you'll be banned; seeing as how you said you didn't want to be here? :dunno:
 
christiefan915 said:
Sure looks like the crime scene wasn't handled properly. I know they couldn't do anything about the rain but securing the vehicle, taking pictures and drug testing should have happened.

¶ On the night of the shooting, door-to-door canvassing was not exhaustive enough, said a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation. If officers had been more thorough, they might have determined that Mr. Martin, 17, was a guest — as opposed to an intruder — at a gated community called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. That would have been an important part of the subjective analysis that night by officers sizing up Mr. Zimmerman’s story. Investigators found no witnesses who saw the fight start. Others saw parts of a struggle they could not clearly observe or hear. One witness, though, provided information to the police that corroborated Mr. Zimmerman’s account of the struggle, according to a law enforcement official.

¶ The police took only one photo at the scene of any of Mr. Zimmerman’s injuries — a full-face picture of him that showed a bloodied nose — before paramedics tended to him. It was shot on a department cellphone camera and was not downloaded for a few days, an oversight by the officer who took it.

¶ The vehicle that Mr. Zimmerman was driving when he first spotted Mr. Martin was mistakenly not secured by officers as part of the crime scene. The vehicle was an important link in the fatal encounter because it was where Mr. Zimmerman called the police to report a suspicious teenager in a hooded sweatshirt roaming through the Retreat. Mr. Zimmerman also said he was walking back to the vehicle when he was confronted by Mr. Martin, who was unarmed, before shooting him.

¶ The police were not able to cover the crime scene to shield evidence from the rain, and any blood from cuts that Mr. Zimmerman suffered when he said Mr. Martin pounded his head into a sidewalk may have been washed away.

¶ The police did not test Mr. Zimmerman for alcohol or drug use that night, and one witness said the lead investigator quickly jumped to a conclusion that it was Mr. Zimmerman, and not Mr. Martin, who cried for help during the struggle.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/u...-by-police-missteps.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&
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By the way; Trayvon is still taking a dirt nap and Zimmerman is still NOT GUILTY. :D
 
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