Fox News/GOP hypocrisy exposed...AGAIN!

Taichiliberal

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Back When Fox Was Fine With Raising The Minimum Wage



Fox News remains focused on attacking the idea of raising the minimum wage, a move that would boost incomes for more than 16 million Americans. Ever since President Obama pushed the widely popular initiative to the forefront of his agenda during his State of the Union address last month, Fox commentators have robotically trashed the policy move. And done so from all angles.

They've fretted that raising the minimum rate would mean "higher wages for workers." (That's kind of the whole point.) They've belittled the issue as being unimportant by claiming few people are affected by a national wage increase. (Wrong.) They've derided it as a jobs killer that would doom big business. (Not quite.) And they've dismissed an income boost as nothing more than a "transfer of wealth from some low- income earners to other low-income earners." (Also false. The Congressional Budget Office projects a wage increase would boost net income by $2 billion.)

The attacks have become something a cornerstone to Fox's program in early 2014. This, while Republicans stand firmly opposed to Obama's wage proposal, to the point where it's unlikely to come to a vote, just as Republicans earlier this month filibustered an effort to extend unemployment insurance for U.S. workers.

Here's what's interesting and what helps put into perspective the radical turn that not only Fox News has taken in recent years, but the entire conservative movement in America: In early 2007, after Democrats had gained control of both the House and the Senate, one of their top legislative priorities was passing a bill to raise the minimum wage from $5.15 to $7.25. The two-plus dollar boost was the first in a decade.

And you know what the collective Fox News reaction was to the prospect of an increased minimum wage in 2007? Nobody seemed that upset. Based on a review of Fox News' nighttime transcripts via Nexis, the issue was mostly dealt with -- when dealt at all -- in news updates as Democratic and Republicans negotiated the Fair Minimum Wage Act's certain approval.

There wasn't endless hand wringing, condemnations, or predictions of economic doom. For instance, in January of 2007, Fox contributor Mara Liasson described passing the minimum wage as "low-hanging fruit" for Democrats since the idea wasn't at all "controversial." (Indeed, 26 Republican House members had previously urged party leaders to schedule a minimum wage vote.)

That same month when Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace sat down with Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) to discuss the year's legislative agenda, the senator assured the host, "We're going to be able to get off to a good start with ethics reform and probably craft a minimum-wage increase that's acceptable to both sides and see how far we can get on a cooperative basis." (Then as now, increasing the minimum wage was widely popular with voters.)

There was no cavalcade of snide commentary in the winter of 2007. There was no denouncing the minimum wage as "black teenage unemployment act," which a regular Fox News guest did recently.



http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/02/21/back-when-fox-was-fine-with-raising-the-minimum/198164
 
No disrespect here taichi and I'm not trying to derail your thread but the minute I saw the headline I thought 'let me guess, Mediamatters!'

Like Big Daddy Kane said 'I hate to brag but damn I'm good.'
 
I remember when 15 million Americans losing their health insurance due to Obummercare was only a small percentage of the population and no big deal. Those were the good ole days
 
mediamatters ?....:palm::barf:


Awww, is the widdle guy upset because he can't refute or disprove the content of the link?

Bet Nova didn't even READ the content....as all intellectual cowards of the neocon/teabagger mindset are prone to do.

Thanks Nova, you're a guarantee to prove my point time and again!
 
No disrespect here taichi and I'm not trying to derail your thread but the minute I saw the headline I thought 'let me guess, Mediamatters!'

Like Big Daddy Kane said 'I hate to brag but damn I'm good.'

Did you actually READ the content beyond my excerpt? Can you disprove what they conclude from the FACTS referenced?

See, that's the true issue with most folk....which is why I can speak truthfully when I criticize the current right wing cabal, because I actually READ what they state and then RESEARCH for verification and validity.

I know for the most part you do the same....I hope you do now.
 
I remember when 15 million Americans losing their health insurance due to Obummercare was only a small percentage of the population and no big deal. Those were the good ole days

Care to back that up with some valid references? Or are you once again just parroting something that Limbaugh/Drudge/Hannity/Levin/Kristol/Krauthhamer pulled out of their collective asses?
 
Did you actually READ the content beyond my excerpt? Can you disprove what they conclude from the FACTS referenced?

See, that's the true issue with most folk....which is why I can speak truthfully when I criticize the current right wing cabal, because I actually READ what they state and then RESEARCH for verification and validity.

I know for the most part you do the same....I hope you do now.

I did read it and honestly I could not care less. I do not watch Fox News. I do not watch MSNBC. I've read articles from Media Matters and they are just a very partisan left-wing site. It's the same reason I don't read a site like Breibart.
 
Did you actually READ the content beyond my excerpt? Can you disprove what they conclude from the FACTS referenced?

See, that's the true issue with most folk....which is why I can speak truthfully when I criticize the current right wing cabal, because I actually READ what they state and then RESEARCH for verification and validity.

I know for the most part you do the same....I hope you do now.

So clearly we should raise the minimum wage to $1000 and hour. Because no matter how much you raise it, no one who previously supported a past raise should object to more raises. Hell, lets just make it a $1,000,000 and hour. What could go wrong?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Did you actually READ the content beyond my excerpt? Can you disprove what they conclude from the FACTS referenced?

See, that's the true issue with most folk....which is why I can speak truthfully when I criticize the current right wing cabal, because I actually READ what they state and then RESEARCH for verification and validity.

I know for the most part you do the same....I hope you do now.

I did read it and honestly I could not care less. I do not watch Fox News. I do not watch MSNBC. I've read articles from Media Matters and they are just a very partisan left-wing site. It's the same reason I don't read a site like Breibart.

Naaa-unnnhh, son. I didn't ask for your personal opinion....I'm asking can you logically or factually refute or disprove the content of the article! THAT is crux of the matter.

Hell, I couldn't stand Nixon, but I'll acknowledge the good things he did do for the country. You may hate Media Matters, but if you can't prove they're lying, then you should have the maturity and honesty to acknowledge that.
 
So clearly we should raise the minimum wage to $1000 and hour. Because no matter how much you raise it, no one who previously supported a past raise should object to more raises. Hell, lets just make it a $1,000,000 and hour. What could go wrong?

so clearly you should stop braying like an ass, because like it or not the contents of the site on this matter PROVES my subject title. TFB if you don't like it or don't have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge it.
 
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Originally Posted by Teflon Don

It's only 16 million who cares

Care to back that up with some valid references? Or are you once again just parroting something that Limbaugh/Drudge/Hannity/Levin/Kristol/Krauthhamer pulled out of their collective asses?

Its the figure given by mediamatters you idiot.....

The CBO report that popular Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, championed by President Obama, could reduce total employment by 500,000 workers by the second half of 2016.

So its obvious that is a transfer of wealth from those losing their jobs, to those whose jobs will see a raise....should be simple logic even for TaichiMORON.
 
Care to back that up with some valid references? Or are you once again just parroting something that Limbaugh/Drudge/Hannity/Levin/Kristol/Krauthhamer pulled out of their collective asses?

do you think, for once, that you could include ALL of the non leftist terms so I don't have to wonder if you missed any?
 
Its the figure given by mediamatters you idiot.....

The CBO report that popular Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, championed by President Obama, could reduce total employment by 500,000 workers by the second half of 2016.

So its obvious that is a transfer of wealth from those losing their jobs, to those whose jobs will see a raise....should be simple logic even for TaichiMORON.

Past increases show the to be a myth

http://www.businessforafairminimumw...-minimum-wage-increases-do-not-cause-job-loss
 
Originally Posted by Teflon Don

It's only 16 million who cares
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal

Care to back that up with some valid references? Or are you once again just parroting something that Limbaugh/Drudge/Hannity/Levin/Kristol/Krauthhamer pulled out of their collective asses?







Its the figure given by mediamatters you idiot.....

The CBO report that popular Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, championed by President Obama, could reduce total employment by 500,000 workers by the second half of 2016.

So its obvious that is a transfer of wealth from those losing their jobs, to those whose jobs will see a raise....should be simple logic even for TaichiMORON.
 
Its the figure given by mediamatters you idiot.....

The CBO report that popular Democratic proposal to raise the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, championed by President Obama, could reduce total employment by 500,000 workers by the second half of 2016.

So its obvious that is a transfer of wealth from those losing their jobs, to those whose jobs will see a raise....should be simple logic even for TaichiMORON.


http://www.businessforafairminimumw...-minimum-wage-increases-do-not-cause-job-loss
 
so clearly you should stop braying like an ass, because like it or not the contents of the site on this matter PROVES my subject title. TFB if you don't like it or don't have the intellectual honesty to acknowledge it.

It shows that Fox did not object to a raise to current levels. It showed they do object to raising it further. You pretend the two are contradictory positions. They are not.

Which was the purpose of the overly exaggerated numbers I used. To show you that the LEVEL to which you want to raise the minimum wage does indeed matter. It is not a simple 'I am always against or always for' position.
 
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