Another thread wherein I embarrass superstupid

[Timshel]

Are you that fucking retarded? I have spelled it out for you numerous times... try to pay attention this time.

A human LIFE begins when the human sperm cell fertilizes the human egg cell. At that point the formation of the unique human life begins. Within hours the genetic coding of a unique human life exists in completion.

There is no point, NONE... that the unique human life exists prior to that point. After that, there is no point... NONE, that the unique human life does not exist. NONE.

You just restated your inconsistent definition. I asked you where are your references to the hard science that supports your claim on the beginning of life? What experiment can I do that will separate the point where life begins from before it begins and after death? You have NOT answered.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

You answered nothing. If you are too CHICKENSHIT to have a two way discussion where questions are asked and answered from both sides then you forfeit. I answered your questions you have completely failed to even address mine. I will give you another chance. Try not to completely dodge them this time.

So you ARE a fucking retard? I stated quite clearly in answer to your question... A human LIFE begins when the human sperm cell fertilizes the human egg cell. At that point the formation of the unique human life begins. Within hours the genetic coding of a unique human life exists in completion.

It does not get more straight foward than that. Are you going to continue to lie and pretend I didn't answer? If so, Darla will devastate me by again thanking your ignorance.

Again, why isn't the human sperm cell human life?

Does a human sperm contain the genetic coding of a unique human life? No, it does not. The same holds true for every other CELL of a human. It contains the coding of the life it is a part of. Not a new life. A sperm cell contains HALF of the chromosomes of a new unique human life. The egg cell the other half. When they COMBINE, the unique human life begins to develop.

The brain dead?

We have been over this... a brain dead person is DEAD. A brain dead persons brain will NEVER function again.

 

[Taft2016]

You just restated your definition inconsistent. I asked you where are your references to the hard science that supports your claim on the beginning of life? What experiment can I do that will separate the point where life begins from before it begins and after death? You have NOT answered.

Your open-ended definition allows anyone to define the beginning of life at any time they wish.

I, for instance, could say "Life begins when someone utters something intelligent." In which case I could say you were not yet a completely formed human life and eligible for immediate abortion.

 

[Timshel]

http://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html

I did not ask you to quote mine. You are EXACTLY like Ham and your buddy ILA/DY. I was asking for references to scientific research on when life begins.

 

[Taft2016]

I did not ask you to quote mine. You are EXACTLY like Ham and your buddy ILA/DY. I was asking for references to scientific research on when life begins.

Those quotes are from medical journals.

 

[Timshel]

So you ARE a fucking retard? I stated quite clearly in answer to your question... A human LIFE begins when the human sperm cell fertilizes the human egg cell. At that point the formation of the unique human life begins. Within hours the genetic coding of a unique human life exists in completion.

It does not get more straight foward than that. Are you going to continue to lie and pretend I didn't answer? If so, Darla will devastate me by again thanking your ignorance.

Does a human sperm contain the genetic coding of a unique human life? No, it does not. The same holds true for every other CELL of a human. It contains the coding of the life it is a part of. Not a new life. A sperm cell contains HALF of the chromosomes of a new unique human life. The egg cell the other half. When they COMBINE, the unique human life begins to develop.

We have been over this... a brain dead person is DEAD. A brain dead persons brain will NEVER function again.

YOU DID NOT, COWARD!

A sperm is human. It is alive. It is genetically unique. What separates it from the human zygote?

The brain dead may still have cells that are alive. It is human. It is genetically unique. What separates it from the human zygote?

 

[Taft2016]

A sperm is human. It is alive. It is genetically unique. What separates it from the human zygote?

Zygotes don't conclude their existence smeared across the Janet Reno pinup you have over your bed.

 

[Timshel]

Those quotes are from medical journals.

It's a collection of out context quote mined BULLSHIT from books, journals and testimony. A lot of it does not even speak to his claim.

 

[Taft2016]

It's a collection of out context quote mined BULLSHIT from books, journals and testimony. A lot of it does not even speak to his claim.

Yes, I'm quite sure you've read through all of these medical journals and textbooks and carefully considered the correct context for each and every quote.

This should present you with an opportunity to present conflicting claims from medical journals.

 

[Timshel]

Zygotes don't conclude their existence smeared across the Janet Reno pinup you have over your bed.

So? It is likely the majority of them conclude their existence and are smeared across feminine napkins or are just absorbed into the woman's body.

 

[Timshel]

Yes, I'm quite sure you've read through all of these medical journals and textbooks and carefully considered the correct context for each and every quote.

This should present you with an opportunity to present conflicting claims from medical journals.

LOL, no I have not and neither has sf or you. That's the point dummy.

 

[Timshel]

The source of sf's quote mining.

http://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/

 

[Taft2016]

LOL, no I have not and neither has sf or you. That's the point dummy.

So you admit you had no basis to refer to the quotes as "mined BULLSHIT"?

 

[Taft2016]

The source of sf's quote mining.

http://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/

Princeton University.

Odd, that's almost universally accepted as a valid source by liberals.

 

[Timshel]

Your open-ended definition allows anyone to define the beginning of life at any time they wish.

I, for instance, could say "Life begins when someone utters something intelligent." In which case I could say you were not yet a completely formed human life and eligible for immediate abortion.

What? What is my open-ended definition?

 

[Timshel]

Princeton University.

Odd, that's almost universally accepted as a valid source by liberals.

It is a prolife group. That's where sf goes for hard science.

 

[NOVA]

I absolutely answered both questions.

HUMAN sperm and a HUMAN egg result in a HUMAN zygote, not HUMAN LIFE.

Hard science does NOT define when life begins. Where are your references for this silly claim? What experiment can be done to prove your claim?

This is almost too stupid to respond too....a HUMAN zygote in NOT HUMAN life ?....really?....you gonna stick with that ?

Do you seriously think that because man has decided to label specific stages of the human life cycle with names like zygote, organism, fetus, etc. it makes any
difference to the bottom line....

the bottom line being, a fertilized human egg is an entity in its earliest stage of growth...obviously alive and obviously human....and if all goes as nature intended, it
will stay alive and growing, physically changing in numerous ways for the next 75 to 100 years, give or take.
Unlike the beginning of its life, which is easy to pinpoint to a relatively short period in time, death is more complicated because different organs cease to work, that is, die....
at different times in the body...dying is a process with and end result at some unknown point....the beginning of life is the start of a process that continues for the entire life cycle of the person.....it is only for convenience that we have chosen to define brain activity as a defining moment of death in most cases.

 

[Taft2016]

It is a prolife group. That's where sf goes for hard science.

And they went to medical journals.

Are you saying pro-abortionists are somehow better equipped to read medical journals than pro-lifers?

 

[Timshel]

This is almost too stupid to respond too....a HUMAN zygote in NOT HUMAN life ?....really?....you gonna stick with that ?

Do you seriously think that because man has decided to label specific stages of the human life cycle with names like zygote, organism, fetus, etc. it makes any
difference to the bottom line....

the bottom line being, a fertilized human egg is an entity in its earliest stage of growth...obviously alive and obviously human....and if all goes as nature intended, it
will stay alive and growing, physically changing in numerous ways for the next 75 to 100 years, give or take.
Unlike the beginning of its life, which is easy to pinpoint to a relatively short period in time, death is more complicated because different organs cease to work, that is, die....
at different times in the body...dying is a process with and end result at some unknown point....the beginning of life is the start of a process that continues for the entire life cycle of the person.....it is only for convenience that we have chosen to define brain activity as a defining moment of death in most cases.

I seriously doubt you will add anything mushbrain.

Why is the label zygote distinct from sperm or egg? Both are alive and human.

Nature seems to intend for half or more of fertilized eggs to die before implantation.

 

[Taft2016]

Nature seems to intend for half or more of fertilized eggs to die before implantation.

Nature intends for *EVERYTHING* to die.

However, I doubt that would be an effective defense at a murder trial. Although Jarod might try it.