10 Demands Americans Must Make In 2014 And How To Do It
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cawacko
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Looks like the short bus got home early today.
Wanna talk election cheats, desh......by Democrats that went to jail ?
8 Democrats Arrested and/or Convicted of Voter Fraud
http://nationwidegazette.com/8-democrats-arrested-for-voter-fraud/
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12 charged with voter fraud in Georgia election
http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/24/12-charged-with-voter-fraud-in-georgia-election/
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Democratic officials arrested for voter fraud in Indiana
Names, signatures faked in Indiana to put Obama, Clinton on primary ballot
http://video.foxnews.com/v/2498961563001/democratic-officials-arrested-for-voter-fraud-in-indiana/
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Fort Worth woman arrested in voter fraud case
By Fort Worth Star-Telegram (TX) August 22, 2013
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2013/08/22/fort-worth-woman-arrested-in-voter-fraud-case/
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7 Democrats Arrested in New York for actual Voter Fraud via Absentee Ballots
Democrats arrested, charged and 4 plead guilty to actual voter fraud in New York via absentee ballots!
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NAACP Executive Sentenced to 10 Years in Prison for Voting for Obama 10 Times in 2008
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.crafts.metalworking/B8Xe0hnJ-Y
Boris The Animal
It's Just Boris!
Desh is so blinded by Liberalism she thinks the Democrat party can do no wrong.
Boris The Animal
It's Just Boris!
And on another note about the failure of Liberalism (see also: Socialism, Communism, Statism), is the fact that nearly every frigging blue state is bankrupt, and every urban shithole that has been run by decades is worse off than if there had been at least some Conservative governance. Detroit is a prime example of this permanent entrenched one party Democrat rule and its end results. Liberals don't care about results, they are only interested in intentions. Why does anyone really think that any program set up by the government hasn't failed?
maineman
Banned
In answer to your questions:
1. Yes. Learned Hand answered that question a long time ago.
2. I imagine that there might be, but I don't think I can quantify it. Suffice it to say, we haven't reached it yet, and I cannot imagine another additional, perhaps, 10% would cause me to think we'd reached it either.
Canceled.2014.2
Canceled
Actually the blue states are sending money to the red states. Lots of cities like new York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle, et all are doing just fine. And Minnesota is kicking the nutsack of Wisconsin... Minnesota has a democrat led Government, Wisconsin's is led by Republican dudes.
NEXT!
NEXT!
cawacko
Well-known member
Now granted Bloomberg was basically a Democrat but techinically New York city has not had a Democratic mayor for 20 years and you're claiming that as a success? And no mention of Detroit? And you really used 'NEXT'? Is this elementary school?
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
Bingo! If America was the size of Canada,(they have slightly more land mass)and had all their natural resources with their current population(about 33 million, or 10% of the U.S. population!).I too would be throwing a tantrum for "free" health care, underwear and other stuff!
Canceled.2014.2
Canceled
They have been a democratic/blue state. They also are not off the far right end of the political spectrum....
Canceled.2014.2
Canceled
...let me clarify, a city in a blue state...
i know that if there was a country that had everything I ever wanted I would insta-move there.
it's almost as if the article was written by someone completely stupid.
if you leave the country you still have to pay uncle sam taxes. that's how fucked up it is. they will always get their cut. WE ARE OWNED. They stamped U.S. PROPERTY on our foreheads when we born. There is no escape.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Why not? That works both ways. The right wing has lost the moral imperative on the income inequality argument when they privatized profits but socialized losses that "We" the taxpayers had to pay as happened in the 2008 financial meltdown and the GM bailout. It was an unintended consequence of the socialization of those losses by private companies that has exacerbated the income inequality problem in this nation because the privatized profits that occured due to the socialization of those loses over the last 4 years by the recovered economy has been realized almost entirely by the top 1% of income earners. Virtually none of it has gone to the taxpayers who subsidized their losses when it became necessary to socialize those losses in order to prevent the economy from collapsing via a cascade effect.
Why the hell shouldn't tax payers demand their fair share of the pie? After all, we paid for it.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
You forgot a quality education. I have no problem paying a reasonable amount of taxes for services that benefit me. I have fairly high community taxes where I live compared to the national average but I don't mind paying them cause the services I recieve in return are outstanding. I wouldn't be so benevolent or understanding if my tax dollars were being pissed away.
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Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Good point but there is truth to what the author of the OP is stating just as their is truth in your comments. The infrastructure investment is obviously needed, woud serve us well and would grow economic prosperity through not just job creation and economic stimulus by the increased spending but also by being able to support more commercial growth through an improved infrastructure. Which ultimately is the best form of job security there is.
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
Some observations:
1. When one party is making demands of another, usually the party making the demands has a bargaining chip. In this case if the party making the demands is the American people, what's our bargaining chip? What are the consequences to the other party (I assume the other party is the current or future crop of politicians) if they don't meet our "demands"?
2. Let's assume for a minute that we manage to elect a bunch of politicians that give into our "demands". What are the consequences of that?
I'm just assuming here that the ultimate goal in making these demands is that elusive search for "equality". Are we all going to be equal on the high end of the scale? Or maybe you're thinking the middle of the scale. Well, you're wrong on both counts and anybody who's buying into this crap hasn't done their homework. If you think this is all bright, shiny and new think again. Because it's been tried before and ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Soviet Russia. Under that system theoretically everybody was equal, and that was pretty much true, but they were all equal at the low-end of the scale. A factory manager who was not well connected to the Communist party made pretty much the same money as the guy sweating his balls off on the factory floor. Couple of problems with that though, as we are now finding out the air and the water weren't really clean in the worker's paradise, education was pretty good though, but if you showed a knack for doing something they were pretty much going to beat the education into you and then you were going to be doing that thing whether you really liked it or not. A living wage? Well, yeah I guess. After all, it was a tenet of the system: "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs".
In short folks, this is never going to happen, at least on this plane of existence. Take my advice. If you want utopia, accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, then physically die and go to heaven. No one really knows the nature of heaven, but I think we can safely assume that the air and the water will be clean and everybody will be truly equal. I don't think there will be any kind of sickness or traumatic injury, but if there is I am pretty sure it's going to be completely paid for, and you won't even really need a job much less a secure one!
1. When one party is making demands of another, usually the party making the demands has a bargaining chip. In this case if the party making the demands is the American people, what's our bargaining chip? What are the consequences to the other party (I assume the other party is the current or future crop of politicians) if they don't meet our "demands"?
2. Let's assume for a minute that we manage to elect a bunch of politicians that give into our "demands". What are the consequences of that?
I'm just assuming here that the ultimate goal in making these demands is that elusive search for "equality". Are we all going to be equal on the high end of the scale? Or maybe you're thinking the middle of the scale. Well, you're wrong on both counts and anybody who's buying into this crap hasn't done their homework. If you think this is all bright, shiny and new think again. Because it's been tried before and ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Soviet Russia. Under that system theoretically everybody was equal, and that was pretty much true, but they were all equal at the low-end of the scale. A factory manager who was not well connected to the Communist party made pretty much the same money as the guy sweating his balls off on the factory floor. Couple of problems with that though, as we are now finding out the air and the water weren't really clean in the worker's paradise, education was pretty good though, but if you showed a knack for doing something they were pretty much going to beat the education into you and then you were going to be doing that thing whether you really liked it or not. A living wage? Well, yeah I guess. After all, it was a tenet of the system: "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs".
In short folks, this is never going to happen, at least on this plane of existence. Take my advice. If you want utopia, accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, then physically die and go to heaven. No one really knows the nature of heaven, but I think we can safely assume that the air and the water will be clean and everybody will be truly equal. I don't think there will be any kind of sickness or traumatic injury, but if there is I am pretty sure it's going to be completely paid for, and you won't even really need a job much less a secure one!