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Ishmael Pequod said:
The sun also changes temperature, which also affects the earth, but you have an agenda so you have to ignore the fact that the sun is a much mu h bigger influence on global warming and cooling. You have confused science with political ideology.
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The sun is like 5,778 K and doesn't change temperature except for sunspots.
 
Manatee said:
If the sun goes out today we all die. But that's scientifically impossible. You're turn. Oh wait, you can't argue against me.

Argue against me. You can't. You cannot disprove global warming. You cannot win this debate because you can't change proven facts. Anyone with a brain reading this conversation can be able to see that you're avoiding answering my question because you can't and you're saying stupid things like "what if the sun goes out today duhhhhh i dunno the world becomes 0F in 1 week haha not like it's 0F in Antarctica half the time already!?@3$"
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Yes, we all die. The sun is the source of global warming.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
more importantly, it shows that what we are experiencing now is the same thing we experienced every other cycle, including times when there were no humans around to cause it......
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It has other causes. Going off my volcano example:

If a huge super volcano erupts, it blocks out the sun's light from the ash, plant's can't survive and photosynthesize. Plant's absorb huge amounts of CO2. If there are no plants, they can't absorb CO2, causing higher levels of CO2 and higher temperatures.
 
Manatee said:
You cannot disprove global warming.
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nobody has to disprove global warming.....its a repeated, predictable cycle in our planet's history.....what is obviously NOT true is that this cycle or even this particular turn of the cycle is caused by human activity......now, you may have a case for claiming that human activity has an impact on that cycle, but you look like a fool if you claim global warming is caused by human activity......
 
Manatee said:
It has other causes. Going off my volcano example:

If a huge super volcano erupts, it blocks out the sun's light from the ash, plant's can't survive and photosynthesize. Plant's absorb huge amounts of CO2. If there are no plants, they can't absorb CO2, causing higher levels of CO2 and higher temperatures.
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so, every hundred to one hundred fifty thousand years, on a repeated observed cycle, some huge volcano erupts....except for this time when it was caused by humans......how bloody scientific of you.......
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
Yes, we all die. The sun is the source of global warming.
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If the climate of the Earth was caused entirely by the sun, than theoretically as you go farther away, surface temperatures of planets cool down. Is true for Jupiter. The top of the clouds of Jupiter are colder than Earth's surface temperature. But as you go deeper, you get deeper into the atmosphere that's full of gases and what do you know? It gets warmer. Global warming on Jupiter caused by gases. Same thing on Earth.
 
Manatee said:
If the climate of the Earth was caused entirely by the sun, than theoretically as you go farther away, surface temperatures of planets cool down. Is true for Jupiter. The top of the clouds of Jupiter are colder than Earth's surface temperature. But as you go deeper, you get deeper into the atmosphere that's full of gases and what do you know? It gets warmer. Global warming on Jupiter caused by gases. Same thing on Earth.
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Totally different circumstances. Laughable idiotic comparison. Next thing you will tell me is one of Jupiter's moons has giant blue people who fly giant birds.
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
Totally different circumstances. Laughable idiotic comparison. Next thing you will tell me is one of Jupiter's moons has giant blue people who fly giant birds.
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Next thing you say is when the sun goes out the Earth takes a week to cool to 0F. Go to college and learn something real please.
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
Oh my god. What is the temp when you wake up? I bet it's warmer 99 percent of the time by lunch. Idiot.
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Oh my god, why can't you prove that the sun changes temperature? Your comment (the one I quoted) doesn't have anything to do with the temperature of the sun.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
lol.....no.....if you aren't aware of the science involved in global warming I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you......educate yourself and then come back.....
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Prove that Mars' climate changes have been the exact same as Earth's or your argument is insignificant and inaccurate and should not be taken seriously. You can insult me all you want but unlike you I've backed up my arguments.
 
Oh now you're going to post something? The second article in that search was an article written by one single scientist and at the very end says "Abdussamatov's work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists." and the first article says skeptical in the title. The entire site is called skeptical science. Skeptics is not real science, it's not real facts, and it's an unreliable source. If this is where you think you've educated yourself you're wrong and should go to a real school.
 
I would think if you're going to tell me to educate myself you should at least know the difference between reliable and unreliable sources.
 
Manatee said:
Oh my god, why can't you prove that the sun changes temperature? Your comment (the one I quoted) doesn't have anything to do with the temperature of the sun.
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I just described global warming.

Are you going to stand by your statement that the sun doesn't vary in temperature?
 
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